EPT[Idea] GEM: New LotV economy model - Page 24
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BlackLilium
Poland426 Posts
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LDaVinci
France130 Posts
I don't mind playing against T, just that I know I will loose ^^ it removes part of the fun ^^ | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
On June 26 2015 09:00 BronzeKnee wrote: Why does income need to drop faster than it currently does in HOTS? That is what I do not understand. Why can't we just reward people expanding more, rather than force people to expand? Forced choices are bad in a strategy game when built into the game. Exactly what I've been preaching. My biggest issue with LotV (yes, more than the liberator and the lack of big changes to Protoss) has been the economy. | ||
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
On July 06 2015 12:02 HeyImFinn wrote: Exactly what I've been preaching. My biggest issue with LotV (yes, more than the liberator and the lack of big changes to Protoss) has been the economy. Not trying to make a big discussion here, but I greatly prefer the time length of games in LOTV. Hots games were extremely long, and didn't lead to a greater diversity of play or strategy. The meta has been pretty narrow. I think there is a lot to be said for shorter games, the practicality of it. For example, I just wouldn't play a game that was such a time investment. This is just an alternative opinion, I completely understand your viewpoint though. I think the economy should compress the overall time and reward expansion though out the map at a faster pace. | ||
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
Pure macro fun necessitates and dictates that these resources layouts and characteristics be honed to death, or at least that we have tried to optimize all that is do able from what blizz will not budge from. We should not let the dust settle (after blizz's major change introduced in LotV beta) and continue to lobby further. Thank you to frb dh hm and all community experiences. On how to get blizz to fold, I think they already have with LotV.. to the extent that they will invest in that aspect of present and future sc (I might add that I'm surprised and happy that at least they did "try" something "new"). This is why I agree with Geiko's way (and I do mean roleplay not as "the content is optimal"), not as an end all be all, just as one further pit stop unto another and yet another etc.. until a purist use of resource gameplay is made. Yes, I am a renegade of mapmaking and would like purism in my economy gameplay, while wanting chaos on most of the other layers of the best rts ever made! I hope that means something, probably not? Content wise... Wow Geiko, you must be insider trading with blizz, you are literally saving esports with your compromise that will please no one, please do more because I fear for my sc! Doing more: have a stream with pros discussing the issue with mapmakers! Video on the maps with a skype call. They play the maps and everyone (players/mapmaker obs/players and chat!) discusses it live. #sc forever Edit/ps: I'm the 1% of the 4% so what do I know? | ||
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
 Can't really answer at length or keep the discussion going as much as I would want to because IRL is catching up and I haven't got access to a computer for next couple of days... But I do hope the epic match will turn produce some intersting games ! | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Penev
28512 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:06 Barrin wrote: alright im working on a serious response, but I gotta say No. Just no.. That was not this Blizzard's idea. --p.s.-- lol that wasn't even remotely the most inflammatory thing you said (of course I did find that on just the first page) Textbook troll. I shall try, but bro, you've made it as hard as you could have. --p.s.s.-- dude... 4/5... i've never given a 4/5 to a troll before.. Barrin, why are you stirring shit up for no reason? I thought we were past all that. If you're not going to give any constructive criticism than please just don't post at all in this thread. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
 Let's shake hands and agree to end this futile dispute shall we ? | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
Just don't. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
No. Just no.. That was not this Blizzard's idea. I really don't see how Geiko's statement on Blizzard's goals was so wrong that you need to use fucking italics for emphasis. "People have to spread out more, which means there are more attack paths that the opponent can take, which can create more action," Kim said. (in http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331689918474/legacy-of-the-void-s-quiet-revolution)This is so NOT Blizzard's idea indeed. | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
On July 07 2015 06:57 ZenithM wrote: Just don't post in the thread if you don't want to enlighten us with your superior top-secret ciphered knowledge, Barrin. I really don't see how Geiko's statement on Blizzard's goals was so wrong that you need to use fucking italics for emphasis. (in http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331689918474/legacy-of-the-void-s-quiet-revolution) This is so NOT Blizzard's idea indeed. Hey, are the games still on tomorrow? If so, is the stream as well, I don't have SC2 installed at the moment :o | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Bo5? What about maps? I can try to setup a stream (of my POV of course), but I don't know if I have a good enough connection for it (I just switched connections recently). | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
On July 07 2015 07:23 ZenithM wrote: Yeah, we'll duke it out with LDaVinci. :D Bo5? What about maps? I can try to setup a stream (of my POV of course), but I don't know if I have a good enough connection for it (I just switched connections recently). And BlackLilium too I believe? iirc LDaVinci offered to stream as well and will Geiko be near a computer? | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
On July 07 2015 07:30 Penev wrote: And BlackLilium too I believe? iirc LDaVinci offered to stream as well and will Geiko be near a computer? If ZenithM can stream I can try to tune in to watch with my laptop, but I'm not getting my computer back for another week at least. I'm in the middle of moving into my new apartment and I can't guarantee anything at this point | ||
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
And good job working together, BlackLilium | ||
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