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On June 19 2015 01:29 TMagpie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 21:58 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue! If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time... It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter). Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1 I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard. WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan. Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time I remember finishing the last protoss mission in the SC1 campaign in 8 hours and 35 minutes. Because I was playing in normal speed AND I had no idea how the macro worked. Then you can just rush it in less than 15 mins. The first time I played the zerg campaigns I would retreat to "heal" my troops. Missions lasted hours because I never made any extra workers (I had skipped the terran campaign and was comparing workers to harvesters in Dune II)
I remember not daring to move out until I had basically maxed out on 200/200 from one unit building facility at a time, and always building tanks and hiding behind long siege tank lines. And then only going 200/200 BCs in the later scenarios.
So basically I did what Goody does now
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On June 19 2015 04:43 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 01:29 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 21:58 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue! If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time... It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter). Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1 I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard. WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan. Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time I remember finishing the last protoss mission in the SC1 campaign in 8 hours and 35 minutes. Because I was playing in normal speed AND I had no idea how the macro worked. Then you can just rush it in less than 15 mins. The first time I played the zerg campaigns I would retreat to "heal" my troops. Missions lasted hours because I never made any extra workers (I had skipped the terran campaign and was comparing workers to harvesters in Dune II) I remember not daring to move out until I had basically maxed out on 200/200 from one unit building facility at a time, and always building tanks and hiding behind long siege tank lines. And then only going 200/200 BCs in the later scenarios. So basically I did what Goody does now
I can remember going for mass BC / Carrier / Muta + Guardian in the campaign in every mission. Then I got to BW and suddenly the enemy AI was improved and they used Scourge much better now and completely annihilated my expensive air army.
Good times.
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On June 19 2015 06:09 RoomOfMush wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:43 Heartland wrote:On June 19 2015 01:29 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 21:58 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue! If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time... It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter). Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1 I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard. WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan. Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time I remember finishing the last protoss mission in the SC1 campaign in 8 hours and 35 minutes. Because I was playing in normal speed AND I had no idea how the macro worked. Then you can just rush it in less than 15 mins. The first time I played the zerg campaigns I would retreat to "heal" my troops. Missions lasted hours because I never made any extra workers (I had skipped the terran campaign and was comparing workers to harvesters in Dune II) I remember not daring to move out until I had basically maxed out on 200/200 from one unit building facility at a time, and always building tanks and hiding behind long siege tank lines. And then only going 200/200 BCs in the later scenarios. So basically I did what Goody does now I can remember going for mass BC / Carrier / Muta + Guardian in the campaign in every mission. Then I got to BW and suddenly the enemy AI was improved and they used Scourge much better now and completely annihilated my expensive air army. Good times.
Yeah, but all you need are barracks supply depots and ccs to beat the BW campaign.
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On June 19 2015 06:40 TMagpie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:09 RoomOfMush wrote:On June 19 2015 04:43 Heartland wrote:On June 19 2015 01:29 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 21:58 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
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If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time... It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter). Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1 I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard. WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan. Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time I remember finishing the last protoss mission in the SC1 campaign in 8 hours and 35 minutes. Because I was playing in normal speed AND I had no idea how the macro worked. Then you can just rush it in less than 15 mins. The first time I played the zerg campaigns I would retreat to "heal" my troops. Missions lasted hours because I never made any extra workers (I had skipped the terran campaign and was comparing workers to harvesters in Dune II) I remember not daring to move out until I had basically maxed out on 200/200 from one unit building facility at a time, and always building tanks and hiding behind long siege tank lines. And then only going 200/200 BCs in the later scenarios. So basically I did what Goody does now I can remember going for mass BC / Carrier / Muta + Guardian in the campaign in every mission. Then I got to BW and suddenly the enemy AI was improved and they used Scourge much better now and completely annihilated my expensive air army. Good times. Yeah, but all you need are barracks supply depots and ccs to beat the BW campaign.
Same for WoL. There's a guy that beat the WoL brutal campaign with marines only.
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On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!
Couldn't agree more. Played WoL/HotS campaigns back to back right when HotS was being released, the difference was night and day.
Enjoyed failing the final WoL mission several times on Brutal before I got the hang of it. Compared to having several bases, a constantly huge bank and a 200/200 army which i'd make random units for just because I could in the final HotS mission. Was sad.
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On June 19 2015 22:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue! Couldn't agree more. Played WoL/HotS campaigns back to back right when HotS was being released, the difference was night and day. Enjoyed failing the final WoL mission several times on Brutal before I got the hang of it. Compared to having several bases, a constantly huge bank and a 200/200 army which i'd make random units for just because I could in the final HotS mission. Was sad.
I don't even remember what was the last HotS mission. I remember clearly almost half of WoL missions. For Hots.. i think i remember the jumping bane unlock mission. And... the one with nuclear missile ?
HotS left me little memories but the cinematics.
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On June 17 2015 19:31 Pandemona wrote:Ok this means the standard Blizzard tactic to get money into the back. Buy LOTV 4 months before release > get some missions and a pet in WoW. Now it clearly works so i have no problem with it and i for one right now am most intrigued by the campaign in LOTV actually and will be buying it for that reason! Also assume a November release date for this which for once is clever by Blizzard. Release it AFTER WCS/Blizzcon finals have finished so the next Pro League will be able to line up with it as well etc etc etc. j/k in before September release xD
Renamed due to this isn't free yet  Will be free "prior" to games release but that could be 1 week before knowing blizzard etc.
yea that's a good point about the time frame. I can't help but feel hyped anyway though. Just knowing that it is finally coming out haha.
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