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Singleplayer Prologue for LotV Announced - Page 4

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TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 17 2015 17:43 GMT
#61
Order of quality singleplayer in the Starcraft Universe

SC1 Demo
SC1
WoL
BW
HOTS

OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 17 2015 17:49 GMT
#62
On June 18 2015 01:15 Elentos wrote:
That trailer is so all over the place it doesn't do anything for me.

I have to agree
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TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 17:53:25
June 17 2015 17:52 GMT
#63
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17029 Posts
June 17 2015 17:59 GMT
#64
ummmm ,when did Blizzard ever say these 3 campaign missions were single player?
isn't this title misleading?

campaign does not mean single player... it could be co-op or archon mode... or who knows what.
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cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
June 17 2015 18:32 GMT
#65
They should market LotV with "no mention of essence". Sales would go through the roof.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17029 Posts
June 17 2015 18:53 GMT
#66
in a final big marketing push for Legacy of the Void and in keeping with Blizzard's penchant for booking over the hill closing musical acts how about we get Duran Duran for Blizzcon 2016?
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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
June 17 2015 19:03 GMT
#67
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).
TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 17 2015 19:40 GMT
#68
On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).


Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
June 17 2015 19:58 GMT
#69
On June 18 2015 03:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in a final big marketing push for Legacy of the Void and in keeping with Blizzard's penchant for booking over the hill closing musical acts how about we get Duran Duran for Blizzcon 2016?


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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
June 17 2015 20:04 GMT
#70
On June 18 2015 02:43 TMagpie wrote:
Order of quality singleplayer in the Starcraft Universe

SC1 Demo
SC1
WoL
BW
HOTS


I would rate BW > everything else. WoL is a close second.
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TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 17 2015 20:47 GMT
#71
On June 18 2015 05:04 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:43 TMagpie wrote:
Order of quality singleplayer in the Starcraft Universe

SC1 Demo
SC1
WoL
BW
HOTS


I would rate BW > everything else. WoL is a close second.


I'm sorry, Tassadar's sacrifice and Raynor's rise and fall is so much better than listening to Artanis.
duckTemplar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States200 Posts
June 18 2015 03:22 GMT
#72
JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 10:55:19
June 18 2015 10:52 GMT
#73
On June 18 2015 00:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 00:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
On June 17 2015 21:24 BisuDagger wrote:
Anyone else read "Singleplayer Proleague"?!?


I did

On June 18 2015 00:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Heart of the Swarm sold 1.1 million copies in 2 days at an expansion pack price.
Blizzard is going ot have to employ every trick in Bobby Kotick's marketing play book to repeat that performance at a full box price for LotV.

did WoL employ any pre-order shenanigans? i don't think so.


They offered beta access too.


i do not think so.
source?

all it required was a BNet account.
i got into the Beta in week 1 due to Blizzcon 2009 attendance.
i think it was a scratch card that revealed a Key code.

on another note, this prologue campaign will be a great way for Blizzard to show off any "team work" campaign features.
the last co-op mode campaign i played was Red Alert 3 ; it was hella fun and a great way to introduce new people to RTS.


The source is me. I preordered WoL collector on amazon and got my betakey from there.

Searched a little and found this : https://www.reddit.com/r/StarCraft_on_Mac/duplicates/bxre3/preorder_starcraft_2_at_amazon_and_get_beta_key/
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Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
June 18 2015 11:33 GMT
#74
On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).


Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1

I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard.

WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan.
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
June 18 2015 12:03 GMT
#75
I must say I liked the WoL campaign in terms of difficulty, it was demanding, but it was also kind of boring most of the time.
A good 90% of the missions could be solved with mass marines + medics / medivacs. There usually was no answer to that because in the campaign the enemies rarely, if ever, used splash damage. And the few times they did it was easy to counter since it was always one lonely colossus, or ht or 2 banelings or what not.

Furthermore WoL had horrible logical mistakes and inconsistencies within its campaign. You needed to not think about the lore in that game or your head started to hurt.
But it was still 100 times better then HotS. I wanna be honest, I got HotS, I wanted to play the campaign, until this date I didnt play it through.
I just had to stop after a few hours because it was so mind-bogglingly stupid that I felt physical pain while playing it.


On the other hand, the BW campaign was really thought out and the story was great. But it was kind of easy. I can remember the last SC1 mission gave you one base in the top right with 4 gas geysers. FOUR FUCKIN GEYSERS.
It was 48 archons all the way to victory.
But at least the enemy attacked with like 20 ultralisk armies.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
June 18 2015 12:28 GMT
#76
On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).


Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1

I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard.

WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan.

Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 18 2015 12:58 GMT
#77
On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).


Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1

I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard.

WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan.

Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time

I think that we all know which one it is. It was definitely annoying when I was 10, but in hindsight, WoL and HotS at least had difficulty settings, so it wasn't that easy the first time around.

I recently beat WoL and HotS on Brutal difficulty, and HotS took me basically one 8-hour marathon to complete. I'm not sure t\why it didn't take too long, but I suspect that it's because I got powerful units much earlier than compared to WoL.

It might've also been due to the fact that the upgrades are a lot more important for Marines, compared with the zerg units in single-player.
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Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
June 18 2015 12:58 GMT
#78
On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).


Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1

I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard.

WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan.

Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time

I remember finishing the last protoss mission in the SC1 campaign in 8 hours and 35 minutes. Because I was playing in normal speed AND I had no idea how the macro worked.

Then you can just rush it in less than 15 mins.
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 18 2015 16:29 GMT
#79
On June 18 2015 21:58 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 21:28 oGoZenob wrote:
On June 18 2015 20:33 Eviscerador wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:40 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 04:03 Jarree wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:52 TMagpie wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 Jarree wrote:
HOTS single player was really really bad and dumbed down (you could a-move zerglings to victory in every map on hardest difficulty). I enjoyed WOL single a lot, played it maybe 5-6 times over with different strats etc. It was just hard enough (hardest difficulty) for me to enjoy it. So kinda mixed feelings about the last one, somehow I fear it's dumbed down even more. But fingers crossed, I'm going to at least try the free prologue!


If people judged Single Player by difficulty then BW and SC1 would be one of the worse single player games of all time...

It's not only the difficulty. It's like forcing the player to think what strat should he use etc. On hots none of that mattered, you won every map by building zerglings and a-moving them (or any other unit, didn't matter).


Pure marines/hydralisks/zealots does the same thing in SC1

I have to agree with that. SC1 and BW campaigns were fun to play, but nowhere near hard.

WoL is the best campaign so far for me. HotS was a dissapointing, only saved by Abathur and Zagara as a characters. Those two have much more depth than the new Kerrigan.

Come on, sc1 campaign was hard ! Or maybe it's because I was 10 at the time

I remember finishing the last protoss mission in the SC1 campaign in 8 hours and 35 minutes. Because I was playing in normal speed AND I had no idea how the macro worked.

Then you can just rush it in less than 15 mins.


The first time I played the zerg campaigns I would retreat to "heal" my troops. Missions lasted hours because I never made any extra workers (I had skipped the terran campaign and was comparing workers to harvesters in Dune II)
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
June 18 2015 19:16 GMT
#80
Did Char just explode?!?
o.O
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