LOTV Beta: Balance Update Preview June 9 - Page 10

On June 14 2015 00:22 Hider wrote:


It's an incredibly fun and highly microbased playstyle, but it should be an option instead of a must.

On June 14 2015 09:21 NyxNax wrote:
Do you know what im scared of? David kim seems SO focused on making things micro intensive and desiring small skirmishes, which increase the skill cap, that LotV is going to get alienated even further into the niche market. Any time I hear David Kim talk about changes, he always talks about "increasing chances for micro". As a viewer, and even as a player, I do love the idea of increasing the skill cap and then appreciating amazing talent. Its awesome to see it all utilized and is awesome to practice and increase your own skill knowing there's a mountains room for growth above you.

Trying to dumb the game down to appeal to a larger market is obviously out of the question. David Kim would probably join EA Sports before doing that. But there are still some things that can be changed to keep a larger crowd. It's all about interaction, social interaction. The current layout is fine for the lone ranger, but complete shit otherwise. The interface has GOT to change. Wheres the chat rooms, wheres the random ass player interaction. Just starting out in a chatroom like in BW would make such a huge difference. Tell me, in BW how many times did you shoot the shit in a random lobby then end up challenging someone/being challenged? How many times did you form groups and create custom games? What about clan rooms/creating clans n all that? Just thinking about it, it blows my mind how ass backward this is. With all the social media and how far the internets come since then, sc2 is so reclusive comparatively and it has nothing to do with the actual game. How the hell has it gone on this long?! BRING BACK the social aspect of the game! Even until now I havent fully realized how VITAL that was.

On June 14 2015 05:46 ElMeanYo wrote:
Stim on Ghosts and Snipe reduces armor by 1-2. Why make it more complicated than this?

On June 14 2015 07:41 Iron_ wrote:



THANK YOU, yes. This for sure. Even if they go through with the drone idea, ghosts need stim of you can't use them in your bio army in any effective way, at least not vs swarming zerg where you are splitting all the time.

EDIT: If ghosts are too strong with stim, than just have it do movement speed ONLY for the ghosts, it's not about the damage, it's about how when you select your group with ghosts, you can't hit T to stim, and they get left behind.

On June 13 2015 02:58 massivez wrote:
Ghosts would gain a new ability that spawns a flying drone on an enemy target. That drone would channel a beam at the enemy unit, reducing its Armor by 3. The drone would have a fixed duration and can be attacked and killed. The main purpose of this ability is to help Terran bio armies better deal with a current weakness—high armor targets.

On June 14 2015 09:21 NyxNax wrote:
Do you know what im scared of? David kim seems SO focused on making things micro intensive and desiring small skirmishes, which increase the skill cap, that LotV is going to get alienated even further into the niche market. Any time I hear David Kim talk about changes, he always talks about "increasing chances for micro". As a viewer, and even as a player, I do love the idea of increasing the skill cap and then appreciating amazing talent. Its awesome to see it all utilized and is awesome to practice and increase your own skill knowing there's a mountains room for growth above you.

Trying to dumb the game down to appeal to a larger market is obviously out of the question. David Kim would probably join EA Sports before doing that. But there are still some things that can be changed to keep a larger crowd. It's all about interaction, social interaction. The current layout is fine for the lone ranger, but complete shit otherwise. The interface has GOT to change. Wheres the chat rooms, wheres the random ass player interaction. Just starting out in a chatroom like in BW would make such a huge difference. Tell me, in BW how many times did you shoot the shit in a random lobby then end up challenging someone/being challenged? How many times did you form groups and create custom games? What about clan rooms/creating clans n all that? Just thinking about it, it blows my mind how ass backward this is. With all the social media and how far the internets come since then, sc2 is so reclusive comparatively and it has nothing to do with the actual game. How the hell has it gone on this long?! BRING BACK the social aspect of the game! Even until now I havent fully realized how VITAL that was.

On June 14 2015 01:46 Noocta wrote:
LotV is really small scale and small ideas when you compare what other developeprs are doing.

The DotA 2 reborn thing is gonna bury SC2 custom map system so easily its ridiculous.

On June 14 2015 00:00 ohmylanta1003 wrote:
I hate Blizzard. They are actually the worst company of all time. How could they do this to ME? How can they not fulfill MY every request along with every other individual's wishes!? Just give ME what I want! ME ME ME!!! I just don't understand why the game can't be tailored exactly to ME. It just doesn't make sense...boycott Blizzard, the worst company on the planet.

On June 14 2015 15:08 StalkerFang wrote:


Yeah pretty much this. Every person wants the game to look totally different and everyone thinks their version of the game will be perfect and everyone will love it and SC2 will get 10 million more players. Blizzard can't possibly listen to every community suggestion because half of them are contradictory.

That said blizzard does have a communication problem. They don't really do a very good job of selling their ideas.

On June 13 2015 03:33 Boucot wrote:
The ghost ability will only be useful against ultras, right ?

On June 14 2015 19:02 SC2Toastie wrote:

Well, it'll work against all targets once armor upgrades come into effect.

Marauder Shells/Marine Shots are reduced by 4 on most units, given Marauder shoot twice and Marines shoot rapid, this gives huge increases in DPS.

You can see it as engaging 3/3 vs 3/0, essentially. Being up 3 attack upgrades is pretty good.

On June 13 2015 21:34 plotspot wrote:
An entire new ability to counter Ultras. Why not do as others have suggested and integrate it into an upgrade of snipe. Vital Points Auto-Tracking: Snipe reduces Armor by 3 for 5s or something.

On June 14 2015 20:24 BlackLilium wrote:

You could just bring the old snipe? It was a pretty good counter to ultras already!