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LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 93

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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
Phaenoman
Profile Joined February 2013
568 Posts
March 31 2015 17:50 GMT
#1841
On April 01 2015 02:50 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:48 Phaenoman wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:45 Ctone23 wrote:
lol so where does this countdown come from?

Very complicated and precise calculations were made. I am pretty sure, in order to not tell the true calculations, ppl will say it's just a random time or estimated with respect to Blizzards philosophy. Don't get fooled!

Ah yes, quantum mechanics... as I suspected

Crap, u got me :D
Random is hard work dude...
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
March 31 2015 17:51 GMT
#1842
I don´t know why, but i thought i would get the pleasure to watch lotv streams today. Its kinda disappointing.
First i misunderstood and truly thought its starting on monday just to realize i am an idiot and this morning i was like today is the day! Yeah, then maybe tomorrow, if the servers don´t burn down. Or maybe not? After all its april the 1.
I hate beeing such a nerd..
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
March 31 2015 17:55 GMT
#1843
On April 01 2015 02:42 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:39 Thalandros wrote:



I feel like this whole "Beta starts the 31st! Be there or be square!" was fairly poorly communicated for estimated times to start and all that. I get it's a beta and we're now just free testers for Blizzard but a little more transparency leading up to today would have gone a long way.


I don't know if you've ever played World of Warcraft, but if you've had you've learned that this is how Blizzard has operated all their releases over the past decade. It always draws the ire of the respective fans and nothing ever changes.

I'm still excited though, but I remembered to put on my patience pants today so I don't go jumping around like a maniac.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 31 2015 17:55 GMT
#1844
On April 01 2015 02:51 IceBerrY wrote:
I don´t know why, but i thought i would get the pleasure to watch lotv streams today. Its kinda disappointing.
First i misunderstood and truly thought its starting on monday just to realize i am an idiot and this morning i was like today is the day! Yeah, then maybe tomorrow, if the servers don´t burn down. Or maybe not? After all its april the 1.
I hate beeing such a nerd..


You are not alone, I have very important 3 day work education tomorrow. I can't even get a day off, which I was able to do for Monday and Tuesday, but nope.. So I have to go sleep pretty soon and that will probably be the time Beta goes live..
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
March 31 2015 17:57 GMT
#1845
Can you burrow ravagers? and if you get burrow movement for roaches do ravagers get burrow movement to? if someone could test would be nice.
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 31 2015 17:59 GMT
#1846
On April 01 2015 02:55 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:51 IceBerrY wrote:
I don´t know why, but i thought i would get the pleasure to watch lotv streams today. Its kinda disappointing.
First i misunderstood and truly thought its starting on monday just to realize i am an idiot and this morning i was like today is the day! Yeah, then maybe tomorrow, if the servers don´t burn down. Or maybe not? After all its april the 1.
I hate beeing such a nerd..


You are not alone, I have very important 3 day work education tomorrow. I can't even get a day off, which I was able to do for Monday and Tuesday, but nope.. So I have to go sleep pretty soon and that will probably be the time Beta goes live..


You'll have plenty of time to play if you get into the beta. Forget about the beta for now and focus on your personal matters lol.
rip passion
MrMatt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada225 Posts
March 31 2015 18:01 GMT
#1847
On April 01 2015 02:57 starslayer wrote:
Can you burrow ravagers? and if you get burrow movement for roaches do ravagers get burrow movement to? if someone could test would be nice.


In the unit tester they burrow but do not burrow move.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
March 31 2015 18:02 GMT
#1848
On April 01 2015 02:57 starslayer wrote:
Can you burrow ravagers? and if you get burrow movement for roaches do ravagers get burrow movement to? if someone could test would be nice.

Ravagers have higher DPS, less health, bigger unit model and Corrosive bile ability. They are armored and have slighty higher speed than roaches.

Thats all. Ravagers don't benefit from roach upgrades, and they can't move and use corrosive bile ability while burrwed
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 18:05:17
March 31 2015 18:03 GMT
#1849
Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.


Ya know what is really sad, is that being a modder I know that I could make all the units for LOTV multiplayer in... say a week at most in my spare time.

What really must take them a lot of time is the single player campaign and cutscenes and stuff. So that should leave Browder and Kim tons of my time to go ahead and think up great ideas for units and balance changes... but then they release stuff like the Warhound. Where else is their time going? These new units and balance changes better blow people's socks off and make LOTV not just a better game than HOTS, but better than WOL.

The way they are updating SC2 is so old fashioned it is ridiculous. Modders have already literally made LOTV (as they did with HOTS) and probably have a better understanding of the balance issues presented by the changes than the SC2 team. Modders and the community certainly did with the Warhound, MSC, Hellbats, ect.

I really hope Blizzard listens to the community this time around, and fixes many of the mistakes they made with HOTS. In the future, development should be an ongoing evolution, not just "hey let's add a few (poorly balanced) units the community could make in 10 minutes every couple of years!" And if that means they have to change how people pay for the product, so be it.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
March 31 2015 18:03 GMT
#1850
On April 01 2015 02:57 starslayer wrote:
Can you burrow ravagers? and if you get burrow movement for roaches do ravagers get burrow movement to? if someone could test would be nice.

shift- queuing the aoe spell while move burrowing seems too much considering the spell kills FF's but i'm not sure..
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 31 2015 18:08 GMT
#1851
Does the Ravager's spell do friendly damage as well?
Wat
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
March 31 2015 18:09 GMT
#1852
On April 01 2015 03:08 Tenks wrote:
Does the Ravager's spell do friendly damage as well?


Yes
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 31 2015 18:10 GMT
#1853
On April 01 2015 03:03 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.


Ya know what is really sad, is that being a modder I know that I could make all the units for LOTV multiplayer in... say a week at most in my spare time.

What really must take them a lot of time is the single player campaign and cutscenes and stuff. So that should leave Browder and Kim tons of my time to go ahead and think up great ideas for units and balance changes... but then they release stuff like the Warhound. Where else is their time going? These new units and balance changes better blow people's socks off and make LOTV not just a better game than HOTS, but better than WOL.

The way they are updating SC2 is so old fashioned it is ridiculous. Modders have already literally made LOTV (as they did with HOTS) and probably have a better understanding of the balance issues presented by the changes than the SC2 team. Modders and the community certainly did with the Warhound, MSC, Hellbats, ect.

I really hope Blizzard listens to the community this time around, and fixes many of the mistakes they made with HOTS. In the future, development should be an ongoing evolution, not just "hey let's add a few (poorly balanced) units the community could make in 10 minutes every couple of years!" And if that means they have to change how people pay for the product, so be it.


Browder is also the director on Heroes of the Storm and Kim isn't even in development, your choice of examples are so offbase it makes it extremely difficult to take your main points seriously. The part I bolded is particularly hilarious. We get people telling us that all the time about our website so I offer cash rewards for it and no one has ever collected.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
March 31 2015 18:11 GMT
#1854
On April 01 2015 02:59 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:55 Everlong wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:51 IceBerrY wrote:
I don´t know why, but i thought i would get the pleasure to watch lotv streams today. Its kinda disappointing.
First i misunderstood and truly thought its starting on monday just to realize i am an idiot and this morning i was like today is the day! Yeah, then maybe tomorrow, if the servers don´t burn down. Or maybe not? After all its april the 1.
I hate beeing such a nerd..


You are not alone, I have very important 3 day work education tomorrow. I can't even get a day off, which I was able to do for Monday and Tuesday, but nope.. So I have to go sleep pretty soon and that will probably be the time Beta goes live..


You'll have plenty of time to play if you get into the beta. Forget about the beta for now and focus on your personal matters lol.


Me getting into the Beta is a personal matter.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 31 2015 18:11 GMT
#1855
Roach wars and Ravagers make ZvZ even more fun than it already was.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 18:14:27
March 31 2015 18:14 GMT
#1856
How much damage do Ravagers deal to buildings btw? And how many fireballs are needed to kill a hatch?
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CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
March 31 2015 18:16 GMT
#1857
The new Terran unit needs to reduce the fragility of the Terran early game. Protoss has mothership core and overcharge to prevent defensive losses for the early game. Zerg has queens and creep and tech-less spores to prevent early game losses. Terran has ... reapers? The new unit needs to somehow flesh out Terran's ability to survive to 8 minutes. It could just be removing the engineering bay requirement on turrets or maybe allowed CC's to serve as bunkers. Or some kind of auto turret ability.
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 31 2015 18:16 GMT
#1858
On April 01 2015 03:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Roach wars and Ravagers make ZvZ even more fun than it already was.
Don't forget lurkers!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
KrO_
Profile Joined March 2015
England7 Posts
March 31 2015 18:16 GMT
#1859
Just came back to see the changes. Gutsy move if even half of these changes and new units make it into the released version.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 31 2015 18:20 GMT
#1860
On April 01 2015 03:16 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Roach wars and Ravagers make ZvZ even more fun than it already was.
Don't forget lurkers!

I think the Ravager is going to hardcounter the Lurker quite badly and they are lower tech. That plus that Lurkers are even higher than hydratech (the investment... how are you holding the mass roach before you have lurkers?).
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