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LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 61

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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 30 2015 00:52 GMT
#1201
On March 30 2015 08:43 Tresher wrote:
Adrenal Glands now gives a 40% attack speed increase instead of 18,6% . Haven´t seen it but already sounds huge.

Holy fuck thats a bigger increase than bw.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 30 2015 00:55 GMT
#1202
huh, stasis ward not quite as op as I thought it'd be going by JaKaTak's demonstration.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 30 2015 00:55 GMT
#1203
On March 30 2015 09:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
huh, stasis ward not quite as op as I thought it'd be going by JaKaTak's demonstration.

Why?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 30 2015 00:57 GMT
#1204
On March 30 2015 09:55 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 09:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
huh, stasis ward not quite as op as I thought it'd be going by JaKaTak's demonstration.

Why?


The build time is reasonable enough to allow your opponent to dodge and the radius isn't that large.
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
March 30 2015 01:00 GMT
#1205
On March 30 2015 09:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 09:55 ZAiNs wrote:
On March 30 2015 09:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
huh, stasis ward not quite as op as I thought it'd be going by JaKaTak's demonstration.

Why?


The build time is reasonable enough to allow your opponent to dodge and the radius isn't that large.

They are for pre-building, not placing in front of enemy. Also stasis ward can be used just as vision ward, they stay forever so just turn off their detonation.

Another trick - place them on base and turn off, detonate when drop fully unloaded.

And one more trick - place stasis wards at places where enemy will try retreat, i.e. during deathball fights.
huller20
Profile Joined August 2010
United States112 Posts
March 30 2015 01:05 GMT
#1206
I am liking the new changes. I like the added diversity to zerg - no longer is roach hydra an all in build but can now transition a lot easier.

And what was the goal of the carrier buff? Will it actually be used now?
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
March 30 2015 01:09 GMT
#1207
And what was the goal of the carrier buff? Will it actually be used now?

it's really interesting tactical buff to him. You can throw all interceptors and go back with carriers, but at same time you nullifying carrier cargo, making him defenceless, if enemy leaves the place where interceptors are flying
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 01:34:20
March 30 2015 01:30 GMT
#1208
On March 30 2015 09:52 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 08:43 Tresher wrote:
Adrenal Glands now gives a 40% attack speed increase instead of 18,6% . Haven´t seen it but already sounds huge.

Holy fuck thats a bigger increase than bw.

New Ultralisk Armor is even crazier. Fully upgraded lings vs fully upgraded Ultra: Ultra can kill 300 lings still having half HP. You need 689 lings to kill the Ultra.
He can also kill 34 Marines. I think Terran needs to go Mech vs Zerg. You need some serious Firepower to pierce that Armor. Maybe even Tanks might need a buff to armored. Marauders also get crushed easily now with the x2 Attack.

Parasitic Bomb seems to only affect air Units. Colossus included. Against Vikings it does not seem to be that useful, you can just land them. Of course there should not be a ground Army nearby .
Extreme Force
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 02:17:04
March 30 2015 02:13 GMT
#1209
Whenever the new Terran bio unit is, it'll have to pack one hell of a punch. I also hope they replace the cyclone model with the diamondback model.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Seura
Profile Joined March 2015
3 Posts
March 30 2015 02:24 GMT
#1210
How can I get the client download for the mac?
Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
March 30 2015 03:08 GMT
#1211
I better get a key Blizz >:C
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
March 30 2015 04:10 GMT
#1212
On March 30 2015 10:30 Tresher wrote:
New Ultralisk Armor is even crazier. Fully upgraded lings vs fully upgraded Ultra: Ultra can kill 300 lings still having half HP. You need 689 lings to kill the Ultra.

i get the point you're making but there's no actual ingame situation where lings are going to be fighting ultras unless it's a 4v4 or something lol

i think more to the point is that ultra switches will become stronger in zvt against terrans who don't prepare marauder production, which could make ultra tech actually useful on its own beyond "i'm way ahead and i want to bulldoze you to death because i know you don't have the money to counter this"
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12714 Posts
March 30 2015 04:19 GMT
#1213
I love the changes, if ultras are really that much more powerful that will be awesome.
It encourages terran to tech switch
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
March 30 2015 04:32 GMT
#1214
noob question, are they gonna change colossus in LotV?
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
March 30 2015 04:32 GMT
#1215
On March 30 2015 13:19 ETisME wrote:
I love the changes, if ultras are really that much more powerful that will be awesome.
It encourages terran to tech switch


Like late game BW, where Terran had to switch to mass tanks. Beest thing to watch ^_^
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
March 30 2015 04:47 GMT
#1216
I don't want to dig through this thread. If someone has the link to the post describing how to run the unit tester please let me know I'll post a link in a public mod note so that its easy to find for the next few days.
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Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
March 30 2015 05:00 GMT
#1217
On March 30 2015 13:10 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 10:30 Tresher wrote:
New Ultralisk Armor is even crazier. Fully upgraded lings vs fully upgraded Ultra: Ultra can kill 300 lings still having half HP. You need 689 lings to kill the Ultra.

i get the point you're making but there's no actual ingame situation where lings are going to be fighting ultras unless it's a 4v4 or something lol

i think more to the point is that ultra switches will become stronger in zvt against terrans who don't prepare marauder production, which could make ultra tech actually useful on its own beyond "i'm way ahead and i want to bulldoze you to death because i know you don't have the money to counter this"

Haha I know, Jak just did that for fun. Theres no way this could happen in a real game scenario. But there could still be a situation where someone maybe tries to remax on pure lings to overwhelm his opponent. And when he rans into 2 or 3 Ultras he will have a bad day.

But Ultras will be more powerful against Marauders too. He did let a single Ultra fight against 10 or so Marauders and they got shredded. This was without micro to be fair. Marauders might still be okay if you do some kiting but they won´t be as good as they are now. I can easily see 4-5 Ultras making short work of a decent sized Marauder Force.
Extreme Force
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
March 30 2015 05:02 GMT
#1218
Here you go Zeromus http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/30q2wf/how_to_install_lotv_beta_client/
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
March 30 2015 05:39 GMT
#1219
On March 30 2015 14:00 Tresher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 13:10 brickrd wrote:
On March 30 2015 10:30 Tresher wrote:
New Ultralisk Armor is even crazier. Fully upgraded lings vs fully upgraded Ultra: Ultra can kill 300 lings still having half HP. You need 689 lings to kill the Ultra.

i get the point you're making but there's no actual ingame situation where lings are going to be fighting ultras unless it's a 4v4 or something lol

i think more to the point is that ultra switches will become stronger in zvt against terrans who don't prepare marauder production, which could make ultra tech actually useful on its own beyond "i'm way ahead and i want to bulldoze you to death because i know you don't have the money to counter this"

Haha I know, Jak just did that for fun. Theres no way this could happen in a real game scenario. But there could still be a situation where someone maybe tries to remax on pure lings to overwhelm his opponent. And when he rans into 2 or 3 Ultras he will have a bad day.

It is worth noting that it is basically impossible to remax on pure lings (it's even hard to do it on half lings, tbh), since it requires 100 larvae stored up in advance. Remax is generally Roaches or other units with 2+ supply.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10716 Posts
March 30 2015 05:49 GMT
#1220
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ I have ButterFlys about LOTV Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ~
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