• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:26
CEST 15:26
KST 22:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 234ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool 60% Keyboards Viable for Starcraft? Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5159 users

LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 25

Forum Index > Legacy of the Void
2700 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 136 Next
Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 06:49:49
March 19 2015 06:42 GMT
#481
Hrm I hope that they give Terran a unit that gives them sufficient counter play against the disrupter. I'm just concerned that due to the radius and speed of the disrupter terran wont have sufficient counter play against them when they are mixed into a standard ht colosi gateway death ball. Even with the changes to mech im not sure if it will be a viable style. if it is not and this turns out to crush bio what will terran do?

The new protoss gate way unit looks really cool though. I'm interested into how it will alter the meta game. I think that the ability also requires a skill set to use that's not really present in most starcraft 2 units.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9049 Posts
March 19 2015 06:44 GMT
#482
here we go.
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
March 19 2015 06:45 GMT
#483
On March 19 2015 14:04 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 13:54 NKexquisite wrote:
Sorry Terran players, you receive nothing that will change your style of play. Enjoy playing TvP in the same style you have since 2010! Oh, and watch out for all the new Protoss BS.


what did protoss get in hots? at least you guys were able to use widow mines in ur comp.. we were still stuck with gate units + collosus. oracles are a harass unit and tempests are situational, we didnt get core a midd-late game unit like terran and zerg did (swarmhost/viper/mine/hellbat). pretty sure we got the short end of the stick in hots.


protoss got the mothership core which fundamentally changed the early game in pvt by greatly restricting the number of viable aggressive terran openings.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
March 19 2015 06:49 GMT
#484
The cyclone dmg looks less then in earlier previews. Didn't thought the infestor could escape. Anyone else thinks so?
monchi | IdrA | Flash
CthulhuWarlord
Profile Joined June 2012
United States26 Posts
March 19 2015 06:51 GMT
#485
I like that Blizzard is willing to make big changes. Clearly a lot of this is subject to change pending beta. But its WAAAAYYYYY too soon to freak out over any of these changes. I agree with their course of action for big changes and the economy change looks promising. IMO The viper change gives Zerg an answer to skytoss deathball. The cyclone will probably be more relevant in TvP as speedlings will probably kill it easy. I want hydra den to be T1.5 so zerg can actually "seige" or go for hydra busts style with lurker contain. To be honest the mothershipcore has made it very very hard for Zerg to do early game pressure unless the P does something silly like fail a cannon rush. It would be nice if Zerg had an honest option for pressure that wasnt as phased by forcefields. Hydras would be better just because they have more range.
Gone Wishing
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 19 2015 06:57 GMT
#486
No comment from Downfall yet ):
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 19 2015 07:00 GMT
#487
On March 19 2015 15:57 OtherWorld wrote:
No comment from Downfall yet ):


Terran is doing fine, passion dead.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
March 19 2015 07:06 GMT
#488
Summer and the beta just round the corner. Happy days ahead.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 07:23:01
March 19 2015 07:09 GMT
#489
Game speed altered to match that of real time


THANK YOU BLIZZARD. Now SC2 APM has more meaning, because it really is your actions per minute now. This has been irking me ever since SC2 came out. The "different from real time" thing to me was just silly.

Also holy crap I nearly got cancer reading the blog comments on the SC2 site. A Protoss complaining there about the LotV looking like it's going to have a higher skill ceiling, and that he prefers to just mass units up, and it's getting upvoted.

Right now is closest we've actually come to making this game live up to the SC name and people are actually fighting it. The reason that SC2 has always lacked inspiration is because of the more normalized skill ceiling compared to BW (due to extremely simplified mechanics), and I'm damn thankful that Blizzard is finally going all out to get things right for the expansion.

Addressing Immortal cancer (hardcountering all mech), addressing Tempest cancer (hardworking the capital ships of all three races), addressing warp gate cancer (not enough time here to go into how this poorly designed toxic mechanic has prevented the Protoss race from being what it could've been), giving Protoss the Arbiter's stasis back basically, realizing that the Swarmhost failed compared to the Lurker and giving the Lurker back, finally addressing SC2's hyper fast economy problems compared to BW, and so on.

Just wondering what the new Terran unit will be.

Sorry Terran players, you receive nothing that will change your style of play. Enjoy playing TvP in the same style you have since 2010! Oh, and watch out for all the new Protoss BS.


Have faith. They say they're working on more Terran updates.

b_stial
Profile Joined May 2013
France20 Posts
March 19 2015 07:32 GMT
#490
Protoss Imba...

User was warned for this post
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 07:34:24
March 19 2015 07:33 GMT
#491
Apart from still being in beta-phase, there's so much changes going on at once that no one can predict anything about LotV. The time change, worker change, resource change, unit changes, scan range changes, ...

There's so much going on that this won't look anything like WoL or HotS.
And that makes me very skeptical.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 19 2015 07:40 GMT
#492
On March 19 2015 13:54 NKexquisite wrote:
Sorry Terran players, you receive nothing that will change your style of play. Enjoy playing TvP in the same style you have since 2010! Oh, and watch out for all the new Protoss BS.

It's extremely narrow-minded to equate 'style of play' with unit composition. Unfortunately it seems a lot of casual viewers try to equate unit composition with strategy.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 19 2015 07:45 GMT
#493
On March 19 2015 16:09 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
Game speed altered to match that of real time

THANK YOU BLIZZARD. Now SC2 APM has more meaning, because it really is your actions per minute now. This has been irking me ever since SC2 came out. The "different from real time" thing to me was just silly.

Well, it's still Blizzard actions per minute. They have their own little filter on which actions shouldn't count. It's just not Blizzard actions per Blizzard minute any longer. BAPBM --> BAPM.
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
March 19 2015 07:53 GMT
#494
Im a bit afraid that nydus and muta/corruptor will get too stronk, but its just the beta anyway. I like the changes so far.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 19 2015 07:56 GMT
#495
On March 19 2015 16:53 fealx wrote:
Im a bit afraid that nydus and muta/corruptor will get too stronk, but its just the beta anyway. I like the changes so far.

You mean Muta/Corruptor/VIPER . I definitely agree, they'll probably end up giving Protoss something to deal with it.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 19 2015 08:05 GMT
#496
I wanted a new melee unit for zerg, not two new long range units... I want set to be a swarm that runs up to the other races and kills them at close range. Not three long range races that battle it out at two screens distance...
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 19 2015 08:06 GMT
#497
Im scared that the time change will make the super fast attacking units like Marines and cracklings even more powerful. Marines don't need more DPS and this kind of change could easily give it to them. Hopefully the get the numbers bang on and those types of concerns are squished.

I also hope theirs a bonus for those of us with Collectors Editions of the other two games!!!
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 19 2015 08:06 GMT
#498
Give me a face-hugger and scourges. Maybe the burrow charge upgrade for ultras. And I'll be happy!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 19 2015 08:09 GMT
#499
On March 19 2015 17:06 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Im scared that the time change will make the super fast attacking units like Marines and cracklings even more powerful. Marines don't need more DPS and this kind of change could easily give it to them. Hopefully the get the numbers bang on and those types of concerns are squished.

I also hope theirs a bonus for those of us with Collectors Editions of the other two games!!!

Why do you think the dps will change? It's only a cosmetic change.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 08:16:29
March 19 2015 08:15 GMT
#500
On March 19 2015 17:09 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 17:06 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Im scared that the time change will make the super fast attacking units like Marines and cracklings even more powerful. Marines don't need more DPS and this kind of change could easily give it to them. Hopefully the get the numbers bang on and those types of concerns are squished.

I also hope theirs a bonus for those of us with Collectors Editions of the other two games!!!

Why do you think the dps will change? It's only a cosmetic change.

They are going to change the timer but they also want the listed durations for things to be accurate. This means the timings of some things will be different to what we are used to, unless they want all their durations to be long decimal numbers. For example Forcefields last for Blizzard seconds but around 10.714... real seconds, they could change it to 10.7 or 11.

"Having made many changes to StarCraft II throughout the years, we know that sometimes changes that seem good in concept aren’t found to be preferable when implemented. We’d like you all to check this change out for yourselves to determine if this change is better for StarCraft II, or if you prefer the previous timer."

Things may not work out and the change might not go through. Personally I'd prefer it if they left everything the same and just allowed the reported times for things to be a bit inaccurate.
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 136 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #255
EmpressLilyy33
Liquipedia
CrankTV Team League
11:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
10:00
HSC 29: Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings119
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 495
Lowko450
SortOf 132
Livibee 98
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1359
Zeus 1248
Mini 504
Hyuk 477
Horang2 464
actioN 432
BeSt 403
Light 290
EffOrt 287
Soma 281
[ Show more ]
Hyun 274
Soulkey 259
Larva 252
ggaemo 196
Mong 107
ZerO 99
Sharp 66
Rush 64
hero 52
Free 52
Mind 48
[sc1f]eonzerg 48
ToSsGirL 40
Sea.KH 38
JYJ 35
Hm[arnc] 32
scan(afreeca) 28
soO 28
sSak 27
sorry 27
Sexy 17
GoRush 14
910 14
HiyA 14
zelot 13
IntoTheRainbow 12
Noble 8
Rock 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7408
XaKoH 564
qojqva9
Counter-Strike
zeus216
markeloff102
kRYSTAL_45
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King96
Other Games
gofns12976
FrodaN3041
singsing1348
B2W.Neo442
hiko410
ToD163
Hui .158
KnowMe92
Liquid`VortiX67
djWHEAT46
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick22714
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 27
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP211
• StrangeGG 51
• mYiSmile18
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco5496
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV294
League of Legends
• Jankos2303
• Nemesis1726
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
2h 34m
OSC
8h 34m
Replay Cast
10h 34m
RSL Revival
19h 34m
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
20h 34m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 34m
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
IPSL
1d 2h
Dragon vs Ret
RSL Revival
1d 19h
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.