On December 18 2014 16:19 -Kyo- wrote: New LotV video between me and sonic here:
Still impossible to find people to play this with. I've added literally half of the GM list on NA and none of them want to play. Suppose they'd either play vs hackers on ladder or boost said hackers accounts. Sad some people are getting boosted and then brag about getting higher ranked. zzzzz #NorthAmerica
When he spoted, the warp in after the first drop, you should have just unloaded and exploded his men lol. Or is the cooldown longer now?
As I showed when I did actually unload it, and mentioned in the video, good terran players will split just like they do in TvZ vs disruptors. It's really only good to try to harass with until you have a few and can engage larger armies.
Still impossible to find people to play this with. I've added literally half of the GM list on NA and none of them want to play. Suppose they'd either play vs hackers on ladder or boost said hackers accounts. Sad some people are getting boosted and then brag about getting higher ranked. zzzzz #NorthAmerica
When he spoted, the warp in after the first drop, you should have just unloaded and exploded his men lol. Or is the cooldown longer now?
As I showed when I did actually unload it, and mentioned in the video, good terran players will split just like they do in TvZ vs disruptors. It's really only good to try to harass with until you have a few and can engage larger armies.
yea but at that point it was like 6 marines and a maruder or something wasnt it? You could have got away with prism and disruptor still.
Maybe not worth the micro investment, but better than what you ended up doing with it shortly there after.
tech rushes, seem to be the only kind of rushing you can do. The only problem, is that generally the opponent can scout it out in time. What I mean is that they will see your expansion is delayed or whatever, you might still be able to block their scouting so they have to guess a couple of different things or whatever.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
God... How can we have faith in humanity when money is given to players for playing on a fanmade version of a pre-alpha build of an upcoming extenison which is completely unbalanced ?
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
God... How can we have faith in humanity when money is given to players for playing on a fanmade version of a pre-alpha build of an upcoming extenison which is completely unbalanced ?
There were tournaments on Starbow. Was it ideally balanced? I'm not sure. But it was clearly fun and interesting to watch, far more interesting than standard tournaments with ladder-like repititive games where you see same thing and same stuff every match.
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
God... How can we have faith in humanity when money is given to players for playing on a fanmade version of a pre-alpha build of an upcoming extenison which is completely unbalanced ?
There were tournaments on Starbow. Was it ideally balanced? I'm not sure. But it was clearly fun and interesting to watch, far more interesting than standard tournaments with ladder-like repititive games where you see same thing and same stuff every match.
There were also mini-tournaments on the proposed balance patches, even if the changes didn't made it it was good to see, when theres money on the line you know players will work hard to make builds and abuse all the strenghts and weaknesess so its always good to have some of those.
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
God... How can we have faith in humanity when money is given to players for playing on a fanmade version of a pre-alpha build of an upcoming extenison which is completely unbalanced ?
There were tournaments on Starbow. Was it ideally balanced? I'm not sure. But it was clearly fun and interesting to watch, far more interesting than standard tournaments with ladder-like repititive games where you see same thing and same stuff every match.
Starbow was way more balanced than LotV. All you gonna see here is cyclones and HERCs.
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
God... How can we have faith in humanity when money is given to players for playing on a fanmade version of a pre-alpha build of an upcoming extenison which is completely unbalanced ?
Better question is who are you and why are u here? Just leave. PS: Your balance whine is that of a typical forum goer. You clearly either haven't played this game or are just bad at it.
User was warned for this post
edit: NovemberstOrm is probably the worst TL moderator I've seen if he warned me for telling someone who clearly came to this thread to whine about balance after being registered for months to leave lol wtf.
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
God... How can we have faith in humanity when money is given to players for playing on a fanmade version of a pre-alpha build of an upcoming extenison which is completely unbalanced ?
Better question is who are you and why are u here? Just leave. PS: Your balance whine is that of a typical forum goer. You clearly either haven't played this game or are just bad at it.
User was warned for this post
edit: NovemberstOrm is probably the worst TL moderator I've seen if he warned me for telling someone who clearly came to this thread to whine about balance after being registered for months to leave lol wtf.
He probably warned your post because it doesn't meet TL's standards, it lacks content and baited more useless offtopic unfriendly banter between you both.
On December 19 2014 07:00 MarlieChurphy wrote: So far with zerg it seems to me that a decent opener is as follows:
14 overlord, 14 drone, 14 extractor, 14 drone 14 extractor trick (2nd gas) 15 drone 17? pool asap. (start when put 3 drones on gas/extractor finishes) pump drones (3 more)
19? lair asap. 19? expand to nat when excess 225+ pump drones (3 more)
21? 2nd extractor, pump drones (2 more)
22? Overlord 23? Spire or Hydra den>Lurker den pump drones (5 more)
24-26? make queens x2
21? 3rd extractor split drone count between the bases. (8 minerals each)
Upgrade ling speed asap.
Upgrade lord speed/make overseer to scout their base better. Save corruption to slow a tech or unit.
Make sure you have enough overlords to support 5-6 corruptors/hydras>lurkers (same min/gas/supply cost for each iirc)
This gives most options as far as tech route/harass and you can continue to pump drones and take a 3rd base while harassing.
What I've been trying is spire, and make several corruptors, and getting ling speed next.
Might need to make some adjustments with specific defensive timings/exploits on the build but haven't ran into those yet.
Corruptors are pretty beefy as far as defense as well as harass.
Takes 7 corruptors to 1 shot a worker, but 8 for an scv.
Their 'attack speed' seems pretty fast though, so it's not that difficult to snipe workers if you have less.
This may work.... vs my gm terrans I like to use this build:
12ov (get ov first!) 16 gatch 17pool 18gas 20ov 2 queen speed. take off gas. 30 third queen 32ov 40 third base, then ov, 2 gas, put guys back onto main gas. 52 RW, 2 evos, 4th gas. 55 2 ov.
Now you can choose to do 1 1 roach all in. fast lair, into muta/corruptor, (standard) Life 1 1 ling bane timing. Whatever you want to do honestly.
On December 20 2014 04:43 Alex007 wrote: Greetings to all LOTV Custom players.
ESL, Razer, Sc2TV.RU and Clever.Press prepared a small exhibition tournament called Clever.LOTV with 15000 Russian Rubles (~$250) prize pool & 3 Razer device sets in addition. It will include the Community Bracket on Saturday (with ML competitors from the list of casters and ex-pros fighting for devices) and the Pro Bracket on Sunday with Kas, sLivko, Fraer and Minato fighting for the prize pool.
Games will be played on LOTV Custom Maps in Arcade, all in best of 3 format in a double elimination bracket. Join us at http://twitch.tv/esl_cis on Saturday, Dec 20 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and Sunday, Dec 21 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to see how LOTV Custom looks like in our region
Huge thanks to all of the map developers and special thanks to Existor for assistance <3
This seems to be live now for anyone who fancies watching some of the fanmade LotV maps.
-Kyo-, well IIrc, i said I think that build is good, just bad execution/still need to work on the fine details/timings.
Whole game I had like 1k gas, could have had like 8 lurkers to defend my 3rd.
Also said that I think pheonix is gonna be a mainstay as they seem to be the best counter to ravagers, lurkers, corruptors etc in the mid game.+ tons of map control and scouting, as well as overlord checking. I could never get my lurkers where they needed to be with your fenix everywhere, lost like the initial 5 or so on the transition even though I burrowed immediately upon seeing the fenix, even ahead of time before you even saw the lurkers at some points.
Would be interesting to see how massing corruptors and lings fares against massed fenix with range and whatever other protoss ground they get.
perhaps fenix need a nerf or lurker needs a buff in that regard? Something to do with their channeling time/burrowing time. Or maybe change lurker armor type/unit type?
EPT
Kas, 
sLivko, 
Fraer and 
