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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
June 25 2022 05:31 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

Non-League of Legends discussion should go in the LiquidLegends Lounge.

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Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

Access patch notes via the League of Legends patch notes website.
Que Sera Sera
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
June 25 2022 11:37 GMT
#2
Release the patch notes
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
June 25 2022 13:34 GMT
#3
Of all the patch notes these are definitely some of them.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
June 25 2022 18:14 GMT
#4
Patch 12.12:

- Bel is still overtuned. Her numbers are just too high, but Riot decided to shuffle them around in her first patch instead.
- I have heard multiple streamers say that Sera is OP in high elo, not quite sure what to make of buffing her even more lol.
- They are buffing on hit Kata again, ffs.
- Nerfing Zeri W scaling is great, hopefully that's the end of her AP build.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
June 25 2022 22:15 GMT
#5
I've heard the same for Sera and the stats back it up as well, but I've yet to see a single one of them actually perform in game. On the other hand almost everyone goes the wrong build as well so it's probably completely broken but we're still in the nobody knows how to play it phase.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
June 26 2022 06:52 GMT
#6
On June 26 2022 07:15 Fildun wrote:
I've heard the same for Sera and the stats back it up as well, but I've yet to see a single one of them actually perform in game. On the other hand almost everyone goes the wrong build as well so it's probably completely broken but we're still in the nobody knows how to play it phase.

She has good numbers overall, but it"s Masters+ where you start to see her winrate skyrocket. More specifically, it is Sera bot carry that is so problematic, not mid or support. Probably because that position lets her farm gold while also having peel, her best supports are unsurprisingly Senna and Ashe who also need a good whack from the nerf hammer.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
June 27 2022 10:43 GMT
#7
On June 26 2022 15:52 DarkCore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2022 07:15 Fildun wrote:
I've heard the same for Sera and the stats back it up as well, but I've yet to see a single one of them actually perform in game. On the other hand almost everyone goes the wrong build as well so it's probably completely broken but we're still in the nobody knows how to play it phase.

She has good numbers overall, but it"s Masters+ where you start to see her winrate skyrocket. More specifically, it is Sera bot carry that is so problematic, not mid or support. Probably because that position lets her farm gold while also having peel, her best supports are unsurprisingly Senna and Ashe who also need a good whack from the nerf hammer.

Ashe support is incredibly overrated imo, it's a bait pick.
Sera bot is good I agree, but everybody builds Rylais way too late. Also idk in my games it's just some random 200 LP Draven onetrick deciding today is the day to start playing Sera and then they play like a plat player, but of course that's low samplesize.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 07 2022 10:19 GMT
#8
On June 27 2022 19:43 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2022 15:52 DarkCore wrote:
On June 26 2022 07:15 Fildun wrote:
I've heard the same for Sera and the stats back it up as well, but I've yet to see a single one of them actually perform in game. On the other hand almost everyone goes the wrong build as well so it's probably completely broken but we're still in the nobody knows how to play it phase.

She has good numbers overall, but it"s Masters+ where you start to see her winrate skyrocket. More specifically, it is Sera bot carry that is so problematic, not mid or support. Probably because that position lets her farm gold while also having peel, her best supports are unsurprisingly Senna and Ashe who also need a good whack from the nerf hammer.

Ashe support is incredibly overrated imo, it's a bait pick.
Sera bot is good I agree, but everybody builds Rylais way too late. Also idk in my games it's just some random 200 LP Draven onetrick deciding today is the day to start playing Sera and then they play like a plat player, but of course that's low samplesize.

I'm not so sure. In lane support Ashe looks like an utter troll pick, but outside it can be incredibly frustrating to deal with. No other champion has a 3.5s stun that reaches across the map (and building CD means it's going to be on a 30s cooldown), and zero counterplay global vision. Not to mention her W is insane peel vs melee champs with only limited gap closers. Don't think you can pick it blind and there are comps that can deal with it, but she complements Sera quite well for a reason. We'll really know if someone picks it in pro play.

I am seeing more and more pro games and Challenger streams where Gauntlet Bel is run, please shut this garbage down. Likewise, more and more people have learnt about the bs 12 min kill into Herald top, it is very easy to take down the inhibitor tower or at least reach it if enemy team doesn't react together.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
July 07 2022 13:57 GMT
#9
Belveth is just broken, it is what it is.
Feel like most of the benefits from durability patch are gone though, everybody has been getting buffed since then anyway.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4176 Posts
July 07 2022 17:58 GMT
#10
and they are damage buffed, riot don;t try some gimmicks like buffing cooldowns, utility, qol etc. No, they just buff the damage and we are heading towards a new durability patch in couple of seasons

p.s. I dont agree with you that Belveth is broken, she is actually disgustingly broken with my personal favorite being her E, this ability is retarded beyond belief
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8923 Posts
July 08 2022 05:47 GMT
#11
yeah belveth e is fucking retarded. which genius decided to put a katarina ult and buffed irelia w on a basic ability?
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-13 12:20:57
July 13 2022 08:42 GMT
#12
Patch 12.13 - everyone and their mothers getting buffed.

p.s. are they serious with the master yi buffs? each one of these could launch him into the op zone, but the 3 together is a fucking madness, he is going to be 55% in master+ elo, mark my words
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 14 2022 05:11 GMT
#13
Idk what Riot was thinking when they buffed Yi like that, he's likely going to be hot fixed.

New champ looks overturned again, unsurprising but I think it's worse than Bel and Zeri. Need more time to be sure though
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4176 Posts
July 14 2022 06:39 GMT
#14
name a single weakness the new champ has that is not mighty overcompensated with numbers or some type of strong utility
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 15 2022 07:23 GMT
#15
Technically she is low ranged and can be kited, in reality she sticks to opponents like cling film. Also, I legit cannot believe Riot gave her Juggernaut Morde exp. share, the most broken change of one of the worst patches the game ever saw in terms of balance.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 02 2022 12:31 GMT
#16
Not strictly League related, but Project L looking nice.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4176 Posts
August 13 2022 10:19 GMT
#17
So whats the aftermath? is Nilah a successful experiment? I dont see her in my games at all, can't form an opinion
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
August 14 2022 10:05 GMT
#18
On August 13 2022 19:19 M2 wrote:
So whats the aftermath? is Nilah a successful experiment? I dont see her in my games at all, can't form an opinion

Everything I've seen in proplay suggests she is garbage because she is gated by her range. Her kit has good numbers but 225 range makes everything moot.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 24 2022 19:47 GMT
#19
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 24 2022 22:21 GMT
#20
That's pretty sick. One time Maknoon replied to a reddit comment I made and it made my week.
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