well i can confirm that it has nothing to do with skins for me, because opening a game with practice tool has the same problem. changing graphics settings has zero effect on fps also, so the only thing that pops to mind is that this patch brought back the worlds theme settings. even with those settings disabled there must be something in the patch itself that bugs video performance because this hasnt happened before

evilfatsh1t

Australia8582 Posts

October 08 2020 04:00 GMT

#22

for anyone who experiences the same problem i found the solution. had to disable full screen optimisation for lol and my fps came straight back to a solid 144. seems like a windows 10 issue

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

October 08 2020 05:52 GMT

#23

On October 08 2020 13:00 evilfatsh1t wrote:
for anyone who experiences the same problem i found the solution. had to disable full screen optimisation for lol and my fps came straight back to a solid 144. seems like a windows 10 issue

The amount of random shit Windows 10 breaks with all its optimisation bullshit is so fucking annoying. So much is also hardcoded into the OS and impossible to remove without severe issues.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 09 2020 22:12 GMT

#24

I started playing Sett mid after seeing it at worlds and it’s the closest I’ve felt to playing old Nunu since old Nunu got removed from the game. He’s just got the same big dumb idiot playmaking where he initiates fights by getting “caught “ and living while chunking everyone who tries to go on him.

I really enjoy it

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

October 10 2020 15:52 GMT

#25

On October 10 2020 07:12 Slusher wrote:
I started playing Sett mid after seeing it at worlds and it’s the closest I’ve felt to playing old Nunu since old Nunu got removed from the game. He’s just got the same big dumb idiot playmaking where he initiates fights by getting “caught “ and living while chunking everyone who tries to go on him.

I really enjoy it

Sounds like you'll enjoy triple rejuv bead Trynd mid too.

ps: you're an evil person.

Sent.

Poland9060 Posts

October 13 2020 11:43 GMT

#26

I went to reddit to see if they found new ways to bash TSM, but it seems like 90% of posts are complaints about Seraphine. I don't get why people care so much about the champion and whatever whale-milking strategy Riot uses her for. She's about as (un)interesting as Neeko and yet she got like thrice as much attention as Samira did.

Here are ~~reworked Sona's~~ Seraphine's abilites if someone missed the reveal.

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/event/seraphine-abilities-rundown/

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

October 13 2020 12:54 GMT

#27

Is it really that bad? Her kit looks similar, but she still seems decently unique. Imo Yone looked far similar to Yasuo than this champ and Sona.

People have been complaining about how poor the cost to content ratio is for new champs for ages. You said it, the prices are obviously directed at whales, not the other 90% of players, I haven't bought anything in over 5 years. People got angry about Spirit Fire Udyr having an insane price for poorly aged visual effects, crappy Chroma packs, Orrn 3 years still 1 skin, new Ez skin every 6 months etc.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

October 13 2020 13:28 GMT

#28

People take their waifus seriously, I don't know what to tell you

Sent.

Poland9060 Posts

October 13 2020 13:45 GMT

#29

On October 13 2020 21:54 DarkCore wrote:
Is it really that bad? Her kit looks similar, but she still seems decently unique. Imo Yone looked far similar to Yasuo than this champ and Sona.

It's one of the reasons why I don't get the outrage. The similarity to Sona is indeed obvious in all of her abilities, but I don't think she's "exactly like Sona but better". I guess them having a vaguely similar theme (music) highlights the similarities. Without that you could say they're as similar to each other as Cait and Jinx are, and nobody seems to have a problem with that.

The complaints about the ultimate skin, lore stuff or the KDA skin being the actual character are all valid, but I thought most of the player base doesn't care about that.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

October 13 2020 14:16 GMT

#30

In my opinion she kind of looks like a scrapped Sona rework made a unique champion, which I honestly dont think is a bad way to implement it a lot of people like Sona as she is and Seraphine still looks different "enough" for the both of them to exist.

What I'm somewhat concerned about is her passive music, either it's going alright or painfully anoying after you've played her multiple times. Riot's music department has been on point for years so I'm optimistic, but still something I'm concerned about.

Really have no idea what her role is supposed to be? Her kit has so much teamplay she kind of has to be played in a duo lane, but is she meant to be the support or the carry?

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 13 2020 14:46 GMT

#31

To me I definitely see the similarities and would argue it’s much more of an overlap than Yone. I really dislike her aesthetic but I would rather this than Sona being removed from the game. There is one other thing that really bothers me that I hope is just a pbe thing but she moves and idles laying down and casts standing and it looks really awkward when she gets up and lays down 5 times in 5 seconds idk it bothers me.

Also why is she from Piltover and her stage doesn’t have any hextech elements?

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

October 13 2020 21:32 GMT

#32

I think releasing a new champion is better than a rework.

Good God I wish they released the new champion "Atrius" instead of reworking Pantheon. Or the new champion "Sutra" instead of reworking Kam... Err Karma.

I also think that Riot is getting into the champion numbers where they can and should overlap the way MtG does; after around 150 you're bound to have Champions that fill each other's role and theme a bit. I think it makes a lot of sense to have Champions aimed at Johnny, Timmy, and Spike. It also makes sense to have Champions for each level of play and for teaching certain levels of play (think Warwick vs Nidalee or lightning bolt vs "lucky charm" spells).

And I mean... I think that's a large part of the backlash... A lot of people were hyped for Seraphine but they realized she wasn't for them, she was for them, but for Whales and eGirls. My girlfriend and her friends love Seraphine; they are the kind of players that struggle to win against intermediate bots, but why should they not have Champions designed for them when they are also paying customers? See section 2 of the below.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/when-cards-go-bad-2002-01-28

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 13 2020 21:36 GMT

#33

New graves is one of the most fun champions in the game but I would still play old graves too if possible.

I think the only reworked champion I would always play over the old one is Quinn

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

October 13 2020 22:17 GMT

#34

Yeah, I agree with that. No ADC since has had that same burst caster feel of old Graves; knowing you could one shot the other guy at say 600 health post mitigation.