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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 04 2019 23:48 GMT
#81
On March 05 2019 08:08 Slusher wrote:
To be honest that doesn’t come as a surprise and I think it should be a thing


I know this because even though a player who is challenger can decay out of challenger (for example going to worlds) they'll come back with a rank of (e.g d2) but still play with challenger mmr. Makes sense at the higher ranks i guess, but not the lower ranks.
Que Sera Sera
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2019 00:26 GMT
#82
On March 05 2019 08:08 Slusher wrote:
To be honest that doesn’t come as a surprise and I think it should be a thing


It actually tilts me how far actual mmr and rank can be apart. Just such a convoluted system.

If all your games are vs challengers, you're a challenger not a D2. If all your games are gold 1, then you're g1 not d4.

Mmr climbs so much faster than rank. Its stupid.

Ultimately it doesn't matter, but i find that system so frustrating.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 05 2019 00:52 GMT
#83
I have a friend with a full roster through 6 1/2 seasons who tried to come back in s9 and lost like 10 straight games and just re-quit. Doesn’t want to lose his unlocks but doesn’t feel like getting blown up until his mmr stabilizes.
Carrilord has arrived.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 05 2019 02:16 GMT
#84
The entire convolution of the system is for casuals and the decoupling of mmr and rank is stupid. They will never change it but at the very least I'd like them to remove inter-divisional promos.
Que Sera Sera
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2019 08:25 GMT
#85
I just dont get it...

Isn't ranked inherently a try-hard mode? And even so, couldn't they show a moving average MMR instead of legit MMR so people dont stress over minute win streaks?

I dont understand the benefit of the current system.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 05 2019 12:11 GMT
#86
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2019 15:13 GMT
#87
On March 05 2019 21:11 JimmiC wrote:
People get more feelings of accomplishment. So people play more.


Really? Maybe it's just because i rarely play and experience decay all the time... but having failed 3 promos in a row while you're stuck in rank and maintain 60% WR and stuck in games with 9 players 2+ divisions higher than you is probably the most frustrating experience ever and usually just stops me from wanting to play in my free time.

But i suppose I'm an old man outside their target audience at this point.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 05 2019 15:18 GMT
#88
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 05 2019 17:42 GMT
#89
Top conqueror Kayn vs melee is probably the most free win you can get right now. You get red form so fast it's actually insane and once you do the game is more or less over. lol
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2019 19:57 GMT
#90
On March 06 2019 00:18 JimmiC wrote:
I think psychologically it makes most people want to try to accomplish that goal.
As for the situation you are talking about I had the same thing happen to me, however when I popped through after 5 series it was like 2-3 games and I was in the next and then I hopped two divs after that promo. So it catches up in time.


I guess i just feel like I've already accomplished the goal but the systems punishing me because of the order I won games in. It just pisses me off.

This is exacerbated by being a fill player and seeing just how far my LP gain average is below my MMR average, and just through the nature of my schedule and free laddering time available; it quickly becomes clear I will never be able to push my rank up to where I feel it should be based on my historical performance and current matchmaking rating... So i feel like its not worth persuing and my time would be better spent playing Apex / OW / BW.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 05 2019 21:57 GMT
#91
DARKNESSSSSSSssssssss


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