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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2018 03:18 GMT
#61
I got a survey from Riot today that both asked me I how much time I play games pc / console / phone then later asked me if I find the fact that league is only available on pc “frustrating”

Yikes
Carrilord has arrived.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 29 2018 04:11 GMT
#62
I've gotten two surveys in the last month or two that asked similar questions. One of them was really long.

They're working on more than one game and I think it's safe to say at least one of them is mobile.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2018 05:12 GMT
#63
I mean to be fair any game company looking to turn a profit should be looking at mobile but I’m definitely not their target audience.
Carrilord has arrived.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 29 2018 05:33 GMT
#64
I'm not either. I don't think western PC gamers are their market for the most part.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 29 2018 05:58 GMT
#65
PC gamers are almost no one's market now. Mobile gamers are, for lack of a better phrase, easy AF to milk. Its really an indictment of Riot that they don't have a game like Hearthstone already available on mobile using their IP. They'd be making enough on that mobile game that they could buy Phreak a new vest of gold ringmail every week.
Freeeeeeedom
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
November 29 2018 06:49 GMT
#66
I mean Tencent legit made a copy of League on mobile (Honor of Kings) and it's probably the biggest game in the entire world. Estimated player base of around 200 million people and it makes MAD BANK.

Riot really missed that boat and in general were very lax with spending on expansion of their extremely popular IP because they didn't want to "dilute" it.
Que Sera Sera
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2018 07:06 GMT
#67
On November 29 2018 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
PC gamers are almost no one's market now. Mobile gamers are, for lack of a better phrase, easy AF to milk. Its really an indictment of Riot that they don't have a game like Hearthstone already available on mobile using their IP. They'd be making enough on that mobile game that they could buy Phreak a new vest of gold ringmail every week.


This is basically why I play exclusively Indy and Nintendo first party it’s the only shit left being made for me
Carrilord has arrived.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 29 2018 07:07 GMT
#68
There's a reliable market for PC gaming. The profit margin isn't as high but it's still profits. Companies are trying to see how far they can push micro transactions into PC gaming and lure PC gamers into their mobile games at the same time.

200million users is insane. That market isn't available for a traditional PC game of any type.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
November 29 2018 07:11 GMT
#69
On November 29 2018 16:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
There's a reliable market for PC gaming. The profit margin isn't as high but it's still profits. Companies are trying to see how far they can push micro transactions into PC gaming and lure PC gamers into their mobile games at the same time.

200million users is insane. That market isn't available for a traditional PC game of any type.


PC people are sleeping on the player bases of mobile gaming. It's only going to get bigger as more and more people get access to phones and phones being the primary internet connected device of the developing world. Those emerging middle classes are completely untapped markets, and almost all of them will probably never touch a true PC in their life.
Que Sera Sera
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 29 2018 15:22 GMT
#70
i'd play league immortal before i play diablo immortal any day
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 29 2018 16:56 GMT
#71
Karthus is so broken now with Dark Harvest it's hilarious.... and sad since people have started to ban him which hurts considering he have been my most played midlaner and goto AP top since forever.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 29 2018 17:12 GMT
#72
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2018 17:27 GMT
#73
In meddler’s gameplay thoughts he talks about Karthus maybe needing a nerf because he’s too strong, a paragraph after talking about harvest getting nerfed. I hope they don’t go full weedwick 420 on him, if they keystone ever gets close to being balanced karthus is average at best.
Carrilord has arrived.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 29 2018 17:34 GMT
#74
Riot's balance and design teams are just not very good at their jobs I think.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-29 17:37:08
November 29 2018 17:36 GMT
#75
On November 30 2018 02:12 JimmiC wrote:
Yeah I love playing top. If I see a teemo I'm like fuck you here is Karth. I also enjoy pressing R when your team dives bot or when your bot gets dove. Good times.

Haha. Teemo was actually the original reason I started playing Karthus top, cant remember who but years ago some toplane streamer (Wings?) mentioned that if you have issues vs Teemo just pick a mage.

On November 30 2018 02:27 Slusher wrote:
In meddler’s gameplay thoughts he talks about Karthus maybe needing a nerf because he’s too strong, a paragraph after talking about harvest getting nerfed. I hope they don’t go full weedwick 420 on him, if they keystone ever gets close to being balanced karthus is average at best.

It's honestly entirely Dark Harvest's fault he is so disgusting right now, it was basically a flat base damage increase and higher AP ratio on his first few ults and then later on it's just... Well Dark Harvest on a farmed AoE mage.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-29 17:52:40
November 29 2018 17:52 GMT
#76
I like Dark Harvest it made support Leblanc even more fun

Also competing to get more dark harvest stacks than your teammates is more fun than the actual game.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 29 2018 18:04 GMT
#77
i got a riot survery today as well. mine was all about comparing and contrasting ranked in season 8 against ranked in season 7.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-29 18:14:10
November 29 2018 18:14 GMT
#78
On November 30 2018 02:27 Slusher wrote:
In meddler’s gameplay thoughts he talks about Karthus maybe needing a nerf because he’s too strong, a paragraph after talking about harvest getting nerfed. I hope they don’t go full weedwick 420 on him, if they keystone ever gets close to being balanced karthus is average at best.


Karthus hasn't been meta for so long that people legit forgot what he does. There's a big section of the playerbase that has never played against Karthus consistently enough. Played some diamond games and a guy said in all chat: "I forgot about Karthus passive lol"
Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-29 19:05:29
November 29 2018 19:04 GMT
#79
On November 30 2018 03:14 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2018 02:27 Slusher wrote:
In meddler’s gameplay thoughts he talks about Karthus maybe needing a nerf because he’s too strong, a paragraph after talking about harvest getting nerfed. I hope they don’t go full weedwick 420 on him, if they keystone ever gets close to being balanced karthus is average at best.


Karthus hasn't been meta for so long that people legit forgot what he does. There's a big section of the playerbase that has never played against Karthus consistently enough. Played some diamond games and a guy said in all chat: "I forgot about Karthus passive lol"

Yeah, I think this is probably a large factor too. From the general awesomeness thread:
On November 30 2018 01:38 Jek wrote:
The no tank enemy team did Baron after a teamfight, I was 5 item Karthus with Dark Harvest. Dont really know if more needs to be said.

It's sort of like how stompy games with an actual good TF or ASol can be. Underplayed (or formerly) champions with global pressure are deceptively strong in chaotic games like most games are, then add Karthus' disgusting scaling, teamfighting power and you got a ticking time bomb where just the slightest buff will push him over the edge in the uncoordinated mess that is soloQ.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2018 19:29 GMT
#80
Oh for sure Karthus is low key OP in solo q every season because people don’t play around anything not directly in front of them but nerfing him before the harvest dust settles would be a huge misread by the balance team
Carrilord has arrived.
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