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These are based on the Riot contract database for players who are already signed for 2019. Please note that the players listed as free agents will only become free agents on November 16-20. It’s the wild, wild offseason, baby! Let's go!
NA LCS
NA LCS Rumor Mill
NA LCS Confirmed News
- TSM sign former CLG coach Zikz.
- Weldon joins CLG as head coach.
- Jensen leaves C9, joins TL.
- Ssong joins Echo Fox as Head Coach.
- CoreJJ signs with Team Liquid.
- Ssumday re-signs with 100 Thieves.
- 100T Ryu moves to assistant coach.
- Huhi leaves CLG and joins 100T.
- Bang joins 100T.
- Nisqy joins Cloud9.
- Smoothie joins TSM.
- Brokenblade joins TSM.
- Crown joins Optic.
- MikeYeung joins TL to play on their Academy roster.
- Diamond joins C9 to play on their Academy roster.
- Damonte joins Clutch Gaming.
- Viper joins Fly Quest.
- Huni signs with Clutch Gaming.
- Meteos joins Optic.
- Rikara and Cody Son released by 100 Thieves. Become free agents.
- Auto and fallenbandit re-sign with CLG.
- Hauntzer leaves TSM. Signs with Golden Guardians.
- Olleh signs with Golden Guardians.
- Rush and Fenix sign with Echo Fox.
- Pobelter signs with FlyQuest.
- Dardoch signs with Optic.
- Akaadian leaks that he's signed with TSM as their Academy jungler.
- FlyQuest signs Selfie and DuoKing to their Academy team.
- Matt joins TL as their Academy Support.
- CLG confirm their LCS and Academy rosters.
- Solo, Apollo and Hakuho's trade to Echo Fox confirmed.
- Froggen signs with Golden Guardians.
- Lourlo signs with Echo Fox.
- Arrow re-signs with Optic.
- Cody Sun signs with Clutch Gaming.
- Brandini, Tactical, and Treatz joined TSM's academy team.
- Optic announce Academy team: Allorim/Dardoch/Scarlet/Asta/Gate.
| Team | Top | Jungle | Mid | ADC | Support |
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| TSM | Broken Blade(i)
Brandini(A) | Grig
Akaadian(A) | Bjergsen
Ablazeolive(A) | Zven(i)
Tactical(A) | Smoothie
Treatz(A) | | CLG | Darshan
Fallenbandit(A) | Wiggily
Moon(A) | PowerofEvil(i)
Tuesday(A) | Stixxay
Auto(A) | Biofrost
Call Lin(A) | | Cloud 9 | Licorice
Shiro(A) | Svenskeren(i)
Blabber (A) |
GoldenGlue
Nisqy(i) | Sneaky
Keith(A) | Zeyzal
Diamond(A) | | OpTic | Dhokla
Allorim(A) | Dardoch(A)
Meteos | Crown(i)
Scarlet(A) | Arrow(i)
Asta(A) | Big
Gate(A) | | Liquid | Impact | Xmithie
MikeYeung(A) | Jensen(i)
Insanity(A) | Doublelift
Shoryu(A) | CoreJJ(i)
Matt(A) | | Echo Fox | Solo
Lourlo
Obese Panda(A) | Spica(A)
Rush(i) | Yusui(A)
Fenix(i) | Lost(i)
Cake
Apollo | Hakuho
Fill(A) | | GGS | Zig
Hauntzer | Contractz
Potluck(A) | Bobqin
Froggen(u)(i) | Deftly
Benji | Matt
Olleh(i)
Sheep | | 100 Thieves | Brandini
Ssumday(i) | Anda
Levi (i) | Huhi | Bang(i)
Rikara | Aphromoo | | CG | Maxtrobo
Huni(i)(u) | Lira (i) | Sun
Damonte | Piglet
Cody Sun(A) | Vulcun | | FlyQuest | Ngo
Viper | Santorin
Meteos | Selfie(i)
Pobelter | Wildturtle
Erry(A) | Kwon/JayJ | | ------- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | | NA Free Agents | Flame(i)
| Moon
Reignover(i)
Fanatiik
Inori | Keane
PekinWolf
Palafox | Altec
Rikara
MrRallez(i)
Eclipse | Stunt
Adrian
Feng
Fill
Shady |
Bold indicates a new player to the team
(i) indicates import
(u) indicates unconfirmed
(A) Academy Roster
LEC (EU LCS)
The EU LCS has been rebranded into the LEC.
LEC Rumor Mill
- According to ESPN, Riot has confirmed their 10 teams for EU LCS 2019. These teams are: Fnatic, G2 Esports, Misfits, Schalke 04, Team Vitality, Astralis, Movistar Riders, North, Rogue, SK Gaming.
[Rumors that discussions with Movistar and North have broken down. Splyce and Excel will be joining the EU LCS instead.
[Rumor that Astralis' parent company has bought Origen and will be using their brand for the EU LCS.
- According to OGaming, Origen looking to field a roster of SoaZ, Amazing, Froggen, Zven. Mithy.
- According to ESPN, Caps has signed with G2 and PerkZ will role swap to ADC.
- ESPN reporting that SoaZ has signed with Misfits and that the org is working on a buyout for Febiven.
- Jacob Wolf reporting that Rogue is going to sign HeaQ.
- VP Esports reporting that SK Gaming are looking to sign SMM, Selfie, Veritas and Ignar, as well as former UOL coach, Sheepy.
- Mowgli reported to have signed with Misfits.
- Jacob Wolf reporting that Viziscaszi joining Splyce with Odoamne being shopped around.
- According to ESPN, Schalke will sign Ignar, Abbedagge and Odoamne.
- Rumor that Profit and Wadid are headed to Rogue.
- Rumor that Rogue has finalised their squad. Profit, Kikis, Sencux, Larssen (for Summer), HeaQ, and Wadid.
- Rumor that Nemesis has signed with Fnatic as their new mid laner.
- Rumor that exceL has signed Caedrel, Exileh, Jeskla and kaSing.
- Rumor that Pirean has signed with SK Gaming.
LEC Confirmed News
- UOL has confirmed they will not be in the EU LCS in 2019.
- ROCCAT confirms they will not be in the EU LCS in 2019.
- H2K confirms they will not be in the EU LCS in 2019.
- Giants confirms they will not be in the EU LCS in 2019.
- EU LCS Teams Confirmed: Fnatic, G2 Esports, Misfits, Schalke 04, Team Vitality, Origen, Splyce, Excel, Rogue, SK Gaming
- Alphari, Nukeduck and Sherrif sign with Origen.
- Febiven signs with Misfits.
- Maxlore re-signs with Misfits.
- Cabochard and Jactroll re-sign with Vitality.
- SoaZ signs with Misfits.
- Gorilla signs with Misfits
- Bwipo re-signs with Fnatic.
- Freddy122 signs with Rogue as head coach with Larssen signing as mid sub for Spring to finish school.
- Former Afreeca jungler, Mowgli, signs with Vitality.
- Kikis signs with Rogue.
- Mikyx and Caps sign with G2. Caps role swaps to ADC.
- Wadid signs with Rogue.
- Fnatic signs Nemesis.
- exceL signs Jeskla as ADC and kaSing as Support.
- Splyce sign Humanoid.
- Schalke sign Abbedage.
- Rogue sign HeaQ and Sencux.
- Splyce sign Vizicsacsi.
- Rogue sign Profit.
- ExceL signs Caedrel to play jungle.
- Origen sign Mithy and Kold.
- ExceL signs Exileh.
- Norskeren joins Splyce.
- Tierwulf signs with Splyce as a substitute jungler.
- ExceL sign Expect.
- Schalke sign IgNar.
- Odoamne signs with S04.
- Mistiques signs with ExceL.
| Team | Top | Jungle | Mid | ADC | Support |
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| G2 | Wunder | Jankos |
Caps | PerkZ |
Mikeyx | | Splyce | Viziscaczi
Orome | Xerxe
Tierwulf(i) | Humanoid | Kobbe | Norskeren | | Fnatic | Bwipo | Broxah
Dan | Nemesis | Rekkles | Hylissang | | Origen | Alphari | Kold | Nukeduck | Sherrif | Mithy | | Rogue | Profit(i) | Kikis | Sencux
Larssen | HeaQ
| Wadid(i) | | SK | Werlyb | SMM | Pirean(i) | Crownshot | Dreams | | Vitality | Cabochard | Mowgli(i) | Jizuke | Attila | Jactroll | | Misfits | SoaZ | Maxlore | Febiven
Special | Hans sama | GorillA(i) | | S04 | Odoamne | Memento | Abbedagge | Upset | Ignar | | Excel | Expect(i) | Caedrel | Exileh | Jeskla | kaSing
Mistiques | | ------- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | | EU Free Agents |
Sacre
WhiteKnight
Shemek
Yoppa |
Shook
Kronos
Obsess
Candyfloss
Amazing
Pride
Djoko | Dargren
Blanc (i)
Betsy | Stratospanda
Samux
Steeelback
Hjarnan
Freeze | H1va
EdinPriqtel
Totoro(i)
AudreyLaSapa
Dreams
Special
Targamas |
Bold indicates a new player to the team
(i) indicates import
(u) indicates unconfirmed
LCK
LCK Rumor Mill
LCK Confirmed News
- Afreeca announce new jungler, Twinkle.
- Hanwha Life have signed Tempt and Bono from BBQ Olivers.
- Mata leaves KT Rolster.
- Ambition and Crown leave Gen.G.
- CoreJJ, Mong and Haru leave Gen.G.
- SKT release Blank, Bang, Wolf, Pirean, Untara, Blossom, and Thal.
- Kuro, Kramer, Tusin, Zefa, Comet leave Afreeca.
- Moojin joins Hanwha.
- Faker and Effort stay with SKT.
- Afreeca sign Ucal.
- SKT sign Khan, Crazy, Haru, Clid and Teddy.
- Gen.G re-sign CuVee, Fly, Ruler and Life.
- Gen.G signs Peanut.
- Yondu re-signs with MVP to play in CK.
- SKT sign Mata and Coach Fly.
- Pawn, Tusin, and Deft sign with Kingzone Dragon X.
- Bdd and Snowflower join KT. Smeb and Score re-sign.
- Jin Air announces their 2019 roster. Lindarang, Tana, Malrang, Grace, CheonGo, Stich, Route, and Nova all signed.
- Gen.G signs Roach.
- PraY rejects all offers. Says he's going to take a break for Spring and attempt to return for Summer.
- Kabbie signs with Griffin.
- Challengers Korea team, APK Prince lock their roster down: Ikssu, KaKAO, Mickey, Fury, Secret.
- KT signs Umti and Gango.
- Ghost and Totoro to Team Battlecomics.
- Ambition retires.
- Afreeca lock in their roster: Kiin/Brook-Spirit/Dread(AKA Twinkle)-Ucal/SSUN-Aiming/Ssol-Jelly/Proud.
- TeamBattle Comics acquired by SANDBOX Gaming. Sign Summit.
| Team | Top | Jungle | Mid | ADC | Support |
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| SKT | Khan
Crazy | Haru
Clid | Faker
Gori | Teddy | Effort
Mata | | HLE | Thal
Sohwan | Bono
Moojin | Lava
Tempt | Clever
Sangyoon | Key/Asper | | KT | Smeb | Score
Umti | Bdd | Gango | Snowflower | | Gen.G | CuVee
Roach | Peanut | Fly | Ruler | Life | | Afreeca | Kiin
Summit | Dread
Spirit | Ruby
Ucal | Aiming
Ssol | Jelly
Proud | | DamWon | Nuguri | Punch
Canyon | Showmaker | Nuclear
Aries | BeryL/Hoit | | Jin Air | Lindarang
TaNa | Malrang | Grace
CheonGo | Stitch
Route | Nova | | KZ | Rascal | Cuzz | Pawn | Deft | TusiN | | SBG | SoaR
Summit | OnFleek
Crush | Dove | Hollow
Ghost | DoRaoN
joker
Totoro | | Griffin | Sword | Tarzan | Rather/Chovy | Viper | Lehends/Kabbie | | ------- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | | LCK Free Agents | Untara | Seonghwan
Umti
Blossom
| Kuzan
Justice
| Pray | Max |
Bold indicates a new player to the team
(u) indicates unconfirmed.
LPL
LPL Rumor Mill
BLG rumored to have picked up ADD.
- SNG rumored roster: XiaoAL/H4cker/Maple(former FW)/Smlz/SwordArt (former FW)
- Victory 5 rumored to have signed BenBen, FenFen and Aodi.
- Levi rumored to be moving to the LPL to play with JD Gaming.
LPL Confirmed News
- [url=http://twitter.com/Razleplasm/status/1064747688879710208]Fury, Yoon, FeFen, Coach Sim and Lilac have left Suning Gaming.
- Knight and Loken join TOP.
- [url=http://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1067720594320310273]Meteor joins BLG
- [url=http://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/1067786944917135360]Ian and Kramer join LGD.[/url]
- TOP sign former WE support, Ben.
- IG re-sign Ning.
- Baolan re-signs with IG.
- Former MVP top laner, ADD, signs with BLG.
- SNG confirm their roster: XiaoAL/H4cker/Maple(former FW)/Smlz/SwordArt (former FW).
- Kuro joins BLG.
- comet and Easyhoon to coach Suning Gaming.
- doinB to FunPlus Phoenix.
- Levi to Jindong Gaming.
- JDG announce Roster. Zoom, Levi-Flawless-xiaohan, Yagao, Bvoy, LvMao
- RNG's top laner, LetMe, taking a break. AmazingJ replaces him on the roster.
- JDG signs Imp.
- Zzitai retires.
- RNG confirm 2019 Roster. Letme/AmazingJ-MLXG/Karsa/S1xu-Xiaohu-Uzi/Wink-Ming.
| Team | Top | Jungle | Mid | ADC | Support |
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| EDG | Ray(i) | Haro
Clearlove | Scout(i) | iBoy
Hope | Meiko | | JDG | Zoom | xiaohan
Levi(i)
Flawless(i) | YaGao | Bvoy
Imp | LvMao | | TOP | Moyu
369 | Xx | Knight | QiuQiu
Loken(i) | Cat
Ben(i) | | IG | TheShy(i) | Ning | Rookie(i) | JackeyLove
West | Baolan | | LGD | Lies | Eimy
Condi | Yuuki
Ian(i) | RD
Kramer(i) | Pyl | | WE | 957
Poss(i) | Magic
Beishang | Xiye
Chen9 | GENTLE
Mystic(i) | Missing
Sun | | RNG | Letme
AmazingJ | Mlxg
Karsa(i)
S1xu | xiaohu | Uzi
Wink | Ming | | FPX | | GimGoon | Xinyi
Tian | Doinb | Lwx | Crisp | | BLG | ADD(i) | M1anhua
Meteor | Kuro | Jinjiao
Kine | Mni | | Vici | Meow
Aodi
Chelizi | Youdang
Aix | FireRain(i)
Jay | Snow
Puff | Caveman
Southwind | | SNG | XiaoAL | H4cker | Maple(i) | Smlz | Swordart(i) |
| Snake | Flandre | SofM(i) | Andy
Mala | Asura | Maestr0 | | OMG | Xiyang
Ale | Mountain(i)
13est16
Penguin | Icon
Bright | Chelly | Five
Xuan | | RW | Jiangqiao
Zhaoyun | Xuzhu | HuaTian
Jingtian
KongMing | ZWuJi | Killua | | SDG | Changhong | Xiaopeng | Twila | GALA | Mark
Mitsuki | | V5 | Jinoo(I) | ben4/Pepper | Corn | y4 | Ley
Road(I) | | ------- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | | LPL Free Agents | MaRin(i)
Mouse
| 1ntruder
Chieftain
World6
| Cool
Athena
Mole
Guoguo
| XuanXuanPi
| Xintai
Yoon
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Bold indicates a new player to the team
(u) indicates unconfirmed.
Other Regions
Other Regions Rumor Mill
- According to esporin, Wolf and Frozen will be signing with Supermassive.
Other Regions Confirmed News
- Flash Wolves confirm that Maple, Swordart and Moojin will leave. MMD retires.
- Former MVP ADC, Pilot, joins TCL team Royal Youth (formerly Royal Bandits).
- GBM signs with Royal Youth.
- Ruin signs with Fenerbahce.(TCL).
- Frozen and Wolf sign with Supermassive.
- Gilius signs with Besiktas.
- Trick signs with Galakticos.
- Flash Wolves with Hanabi/Bugi/Rather/BettyShiauC for the upcoming 2019.
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Will be updating this with the rest of the big regions throughout the week!
Let the offseason begin! I ask people to post any confirmed news as comments as I may miss some things here and there.
Edit: EU+LCK+LPL done.
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Good job with the thread. Should be a very interesting off season as always.
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WTF all these guys like Bwipo, Soaz and Caps are not under contracts? Weird. Also "Boris" as in Krepo or some other Boris? He actively plays?
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On November 04 2018 21:40 AlterKot wrote:
WTF all these guys like Bwipo, Soaz and Caps are not under contracts? Weird. Also "Boris" as in Krepo or some other Boris? He actively plays?
Last I recall Krepo was a coach and sub support for... I think Schalke? On the occasions where he was pressed into playing(2 games in August) Riot kept him off camera.
And if I was a player in EU that stayed in EU, I wouldn't have signed a contract that extended past the beginning of franchising. This is the first offseason where they'll be able to cash in on major contracts.
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All the players listed as free agents will be free agents after November 16-20th. So there's still some time for teams to resign players.
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Soaz has already commented that Bwipo and himself won't both be on Fnatic next year.
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On November 04 2018 21:54 Numy wrote:
Soaz has already commented that Bwipo and himself won't both be on Fnatic next year.
Soaz to Turkey hype?
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On November 04 2018 21:59 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 21:54 Numy wrote:
Soaz has already commented that Bwipo and himself won't both be on Fnatic next year. Soaz to Turkey hype?
Why do you hate SoaZ so much 
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You think any EU team will take him?
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Think anyone in EU or NA would take him. NA has a lot of bad imports that can't even communicate.
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I could actually totally imagine Faker to TL. If he leaves Korea any season it would be this one. And TL will probably get a big import midlaner in any case. Would also be a huge move for marketing.
Of course it is also possible he does not want to leave Korea or even more likely China will offer more.
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On November 04 2018 21:54 Numy wrote:
Soaz has already commented that Bwipo and himself won't both be on Fnatic next year.
Definitely need a source on that, that's pretty huge if true
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On November 04 2018 23:54 Redox wrote:
I could actually totally imagine Faker to TL. If he leaves Korea any season it would be this one. And TL will probably get a big import midlaner in any case. Would also be a huge move for marketing.
Of course it is also possible he does not want to leave Korea or even more likely China will offer more.
I've read that the Koreans => China situation is a dicey one, because when it comes to taking that money out of China the amount you're able to move is limited. So people that went over for $$ can't just take it all out, so you'd have to be somebody like Imp or Rookie who love it there or somebody like The Shy who got a good offer to start immediately on a solid team.
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I just hope Ssumday goes back to Korea and gets on a good team
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thank god Ssumday will escape na elo hell
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Oh god Dardoch on TSM sounds like it could be really fucking good or explode tremendously. I love the idea of giving this TSM roster a great and aggressive jungler like Dardoch, but knowing what TSM has done to literally every jungler they've had makes me concerned.
EDIT: Also if PoE leaves Optic him on TL could be pretty good
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Kongdoo Monster disbanded
Max Ian and Pilot leave MVP
UoL picks up a coach???? EDIT Did my research, they're gonna stay in the challenger scene
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Ah, Kongdoo was a funny team, but I suppose they weren't relevant anymore.
MVP butchered so other teams can pick up free agents? I think Pilot is a decent pickup for some low tier teams, but I have no knowledge on the new challenger teams.
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Danwon was a main practice partner of Fnatic (and possibly Vitality as Yamato also shouted them out) and both Fnatic and Yamato said they're really really fucking good
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On November 07 2018 02:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Danwon was a main practice partner of Fnatic (and possibly Vitality as Yamato also shouted them out) and both Fnatic and Yamato said they're really really fucking good
also a C9 practice partner according to Licorice, sounds like Danwon Griffen and Kingzone were all quite good
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Cody Sun/Levi and Rikara all given permission to speak with other orgs. Reminder this doesn't mean they're free agents or that they're definitely leaving.
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Cody sun's contact gonna get negotiated with other teams while he is ready to be subbed in at home.
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Marin leaves TOP and Piglet is now a resident. Does anyone bother picking him up or did breaking point poison the well on his NA LCS career?
EDIT: Maybe 100T Piglet??
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I think his gameplay poisoned his nalcs career
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On November 09 2018 04:57 Slusher wrote:
I think his gameplay poisoned his nalcs career
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Piglet should be at least a sub on some team. As a resident, he only needs to be on par with the likes of Deftly, Lost, etc. at minimum. Which he is definitely capable of lol.
Maybe FOX might go for a TL boys reunion with Smoothie/Dardoch. That team would be such a meme though with their history and how Huni, Dardoch, and Piglet are all known for going a bit too ham in game.
Fenix probably going to get stashed on an academy team for a split and could compete for a spot. Though I think this past worlds convinced teams they need a super strong mid. Might be harder for Fenix.
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Sjokz going freelance, so will be in and out of EULCS broadcasts.
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I feel like EU has lost so many more casters/staff than NA over the years.
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Rumors about Huni joining WE doing the rounds.
Edit: WE denied that they've been in contact with Huni.
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On November 09 2018 18:46 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rumors about Huhi joining WE doing the rounds.
huhi or huni?
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On November 09 2018 19:44 St3MoR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2018 18:46 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rumors about Huhi joining WE doing the rounds. huhi or huni?
You saw nothing...
Also, LPL rosters are now up. Reminder that the free agent list is based off who will be off-contract starting 16-20th of November
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Replacing Hauntzer or replacing whoever their academy top is?
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Broken Blade is German, but he indeed spent most of his career in Turkey (he did start in EU CS though). The one split of TCL I watched he didn't seem too impressive, but hey I'm not a pro scout.
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No duh alert, getting him means one of the botlane would have to leave, at least, if he's on the main roster or Mr. Rallez leaving the Academy roster.
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On November 11 2018 09:13 Gahlo wrote:
No duh alert, getting him means one of the botlane would have to leave, at least, if he's on the main roster or Mr. Rallez leaving the Academy roster.
There's a whopping 0% chance TSM is getting rid of one of Zven or Mithy AND Hauntzer for a random TCL dude. The only way I see this happening is if one of the new franchise teams in EU offered the bot lane enough to come back and Hauntzer wanted to leave, and while the former seems likely, the latter seems next to impossible, let alone both happening at once. It would be TSM's biggest blunder yet to get rid of one of Zven and Mithy and Hauntzer.
I could definitely see a world where he's picked up for TSM.A though
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Even so, it'd be pointless to pick up this top laner unless you had an NA player for bot that you could sub in if you needed to use him.
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I see what you're saying, but I raise you the 100T 2018 roster where Levi literally couldn't play unless you downgraded to a meme challenger tier roster
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Well some people that watched player streams are saying that Mithy might actually be gone from TSM while Zven is most likely to stay.
But if anything I would also expect Broken Blade to be a pick-up for academy.
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If TSM tears the Zven Mithy combo apart I'd be pretty sad, it's like when Huni Reignover stopped playing together.
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On November 11 2018 14:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I see what you're saying, but I raise you the 100T 2018 roster where Levi literally couldn't play unless you downgraded to a meme challenger tier roster
I'll raise you that after the Spring split 100T was a trainwreck.
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Rest in peace FW and LMS. Hard to argue that LMS deserves 3 seeds anymore.
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I sure hope that the number of seeds is not decided on off season roster changes. There are plenty of arguments against a third LMS seed, but this announcement isn't one of them.
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On November 11 2018 22:07 Yorbon wrote:
I sure hope that the number of seeds is not decided on off season roster changes. There are plenty of arguments against a third LMS seed, but this announcement isn't one of them.
I mean, I wouldn't take it away next season but assuming they'll perform at the level i expect them to, I'd take it away the season after.
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Guess that answers which one Fnatic wants to keep of their top laners and it looks like they've made the right choice.
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On November 11 2018 20:28 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2018 14:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I see what you're saying, but I raise you the 100T 2018 roster where Levi literally couldn't play unless you downgraded to a meme challenger tier roster I'll raise you that after the Spring split 100T was a trainwreck.
That doesn't change the fact that one of the most successful orgs in NA in 2018 elected to have that Levi plan, which would pretty much mirror a TSM picking up a TCL top plan.
Maple/SwordArt to LPL or NALCS? Together or separate, place your bets now!
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On November 12 2018 03:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2018 20:28 Gahlo wrote:On November 11 2018 14:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I see what you're saying, but I raise you the 100T 2018 roster where Levi literally couldn't play unless you downgraded to a meme challenger tier roster I'll raise you that after the Spring split 100T was a trainwreck. That doesn't change the fact that one of the most successful orgs in NA in 2018 elected to have that Levi plan, which would pretty much mirror a TSM picking up a TCL top plan. Maple/SwordArt to LPL or NALCS? Together or separate, place your bets now!
100T doesn't have to get rid of their best Academy player to be able to put him on Academy or a decent resident bot lane player to switch out so they can sub him in like 100T could.
Maple and Swordart are going to LPL. No reason not to.
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Soaz leaving, what an end to an era. Hope he gets picked up by a world class team, please don't go to NA to die.
I hope Maple goes to LPL for the same reason. The best NA teams all have pretty good mid laners, although if Pob got kicked I'd be happy as well.
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Bono and Tempt go from BBQ to HLE
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K, of all the things I expected to happen in LCK, Mata leaving the team was not one of them. Did someone offer him a boatload of money? SKT?
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On November 14 2018 00:26 DarkCore wrote:
K, of all the things I expected to happen in LCK, Mata leaving the team was not one of them. Did someone offer him a boatload of money? SKT?
Steve opens the chequebook...
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On November 14 2018 00:34 JimmiC wrote:
Is there a big day when most will sign or will the info just trickle in over time?
Starting from the 16th and onwards is technically when everyone is off contract, but most people have been given early free agency by a week or two. For Korea, last season teams tended to announce entire rosters, whereas NA was all about that trickle info. EU will be interesting with so many free agents and some new money injected into the scene.
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I'd say keep it off. There's way too many games to reasonably juggle it with the other leagues unless it's your job.
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On November 14 2018 06:54 Gahlo wrote:
I'd say keep it off. There's way too many games to reasonably juggle it with the other leagues unless it's your job.
yeah its already a lot to follow, I can't imagine trying to keep up with lpl too, plus there are so many teams
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On November 14 2018 07:33 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2018 06:54 Gahlo wrote:
I'd say keep it off. There's way too many games to reasonably juggle it with the other leagues unless it's your job. yeah its already a lot to follow, I can't imagine trying to keep up with lpl too, plus there are so many teams
LPL alone had as many games as both the LCK and an LCS in the Summer.
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According to Locodoco Jin Air Teddy has signed with SKT, he also said the roster reveal was scheduled for the 19th
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On November 15 2018 14:07 Slusher wrote:
According to Locodoco Jin Air Teddy has signed with SKT, he also said the roster reveal was scheduled for the 19th
I'm really excited to see Teddy play with some good teammates finally
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I wonder if that's as a secondary adc to bang or if Teddy is going to get top billing. Also all the silence surrounding Faker suggests to me that he's still on the team as well.
Unrelated but according to inven Flame is free to look for other options.
EDIT: Completely unrelated, I noticed on the LPL chart Karsa is listed as an import but Mountain is listed as a non import, are LMS players imports in the LPL or not? I wouldn't be surprised one way or the other
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On November 15 2018 15:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I wonder if that's as a secondary adc to bang or if Teddy is going to get top billing. Also all the silence surrounding Faker suggests to me that he's still on the team as well.
Unrelated but according to inven Flame is free to look for other options.
EDIT: Completely unrelated, I noticed on the LPL chart Karsa is listed as an import but Mountain is listed as a non import, are LMS players imports in the LPL or not? I wouldn't be surprised one way or the other
I'm not 100% sure tbh. My understanding was you could technically immediately quote your home region but lose your residency in other regions. For e.g. If Amazing wanted to, he could call EU his resident region but lose his NA residency or he could stay in EU as an import and keep NA residency.
Of course, that doesn't answer the question of whether Taiwanese/Hong Kong players are considered LPL players or not.
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On November 15 2018 14:07 Slusher wrote:
According to Locodoco Jin Air Teddy has signed with SKT, he also said the roster reveal was scheduled for the 19th
On November 04 2018 09:07 Uldridge wrote:
I want Teddy on a high profile roster
Looks like I'm getting my wish!
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That’s amazing if it’s true! I’ve wanted to see Teddy with some back up and some midgame for a long time.
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SKT needs a shake up again, and Teddy is a good pick. Wouldn't say he's a downgrade to current Bang, although rotating ADC is really a thing, so I guess he's starter.
My hope if they stick with Thal and mold him into a good player. But they really need a good jungler, because Blank isn't cutting it.
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On November 16 2018 03:50 DarkCore wrote:
SKT needs a shake up again, and Teddy is a good pick. Wouldn't say he's a downgrade to current Bang, although rotating ADC is really a thing, so I guess he's starter.
My hope if they stick with Thal and mold him into a good player. But they really need a good jungler, because Blank isn't cutting it.
Still hoping for SKT.Yondu
Wow, Dylan Falco also allowed to look for new opportunities. Really hope Fnatic tries to keep him after the year they had
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teddy is a beast.
but more importantly, we need a jungler/top. ADC was not the problem this past season
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Bang was kind of lackluster.
Maybe Teddy has better synergy with Thal? But I generally agree though, they absolutely need either a strong jungler or toplaner. They need someone like Bengi, who might not be a mechanical beast, but plays around mid (and bot) so so well.
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Teddy on SKT, if true, would be really intriguing.
Think that would be good for Bang too because I think it's been a while now that he's been looking to leave the scene. He played well this season, but I still remember him saying something about sticking around only because he and Wolf felt bad about leaving with Bengi from SKT because that'd leave 3 members of SKT out at once.
Not sure if he has the same sentiment now, or if losing 3-0 to Samsung in the Finals re-ignited his drive to play again.
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The next big LCK team breaking apart. Wonder how much new talent will enter the scene, or if players will just be rotated around.
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RIP CoreJJ
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the only american with a world championship :'(
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Inven reports iG coach Kim is free agent. Now both finalists have their coaches not renewed (yet) for the next year, which seems insane to me.
Also tomorrow is when all of Korea becomes free agents, that should be spicy
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SKT will announce the status of Faker and Bang tomorrow. Hypeeee
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Peanut, PraY & GorillA officially free agents
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BIG NEWS OUT OF SKT. BANG AND WOLF LEAVE. BLANK/UNTARA/THAL/BLOSSOM/PIREAN FREE AGENTS. No news about Faker, interestingly enough, meaning either he stayed or negotiations are ongoing.
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Man I figured that Blank be become a fee agent but everyone but Faker, Leo, and Effort leaving. Wow...... I am super nervous about SKT I hope that if the Teddy rumor is true at least Faker got a strong 2nd carry.
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Wat.
Unless we're seeing C9 Faker, I don't see how C9 is okay with giving up Jensen. You don't just give up the 2nd best mid in the league.
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Kakao,Teddy, Justice, SoHwan, and coach Fly of Jinair contracts had been terminated. SKT T1 Teddy seems ot actually be true :o
Ssong joins Echo Fox as their new head coach.
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pretty crazy, did not expect Jensen to leave C9, honestly there are probably better options TL could have chosen but this will certainly be interesting
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On November 20 2018 11:47 starkiller123 wrote:pretty crazy, did not expect Jensen to leave C9, honestly there are probably better options TL could have chosen but this will certainly be interesting
Caps....?
Not many Western mids that are FAs that are better than Jensen.
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Honestly the Jensen to TL move is very interesting. I feel bad for Pobelter. I think he should be able to find a team.
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POB might just swap to C9 lol.
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On November 20 2018 12:18 AdsMoFro wrote:
POB might just swap to C9 lol.
I can see that but that would be a major downgrade for C9 honestly.
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I'm so torn. I think C9 was in a good spot to come back next year and start a new era of title contention if they retained the entire roster. On the other hand Jensen to TL makes them one of the most stacked teams in the west by a mile and they still have the chance to get even better if they find a good replacement for Olleh. NA is TL's to lose now even more imo, I don't see a team being able to put up a roster nearly as good unless TSM actually clicks or C9 gets a good replacement.
On November 20 2018 12:58 Slusher wrote:
I really hate this move from a C9 perspective but Jack's proven me wrong several times now
To be fair, Jensen has NEVER ever shown up when its really counted (getting a title, making Worlds finals) and maybe C9 don't think they'll be able to evolve past their current level without a different mid
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I really hate this move from a C9 perspective but Jack's proven me wrong several times now
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moojin confirmed to hle
one thing for sure about lck this season is that griffin are the big winners. pretty much no team other than griffin has a roster and at the end of the transfer window who knows where all the big players will be.
lck standards are gonna suck imo.
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On November 20 2018 14:14 evilfatsh1t wrote:
moojin confirmed to hle
one thing for sure about lck this season is that griffin are the big winners. pretty much no team other than griffin has a roster and at the end of the transfer window who knows where all the big players will be.
lck standards are gonna suck imo.
Damwon got hyped up in scrims. Might be interesting. Just like Griffin, it's their supp/jg duo that's getting the most hype.
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On November 20 2018 14:14 evilfatsh1t wrote:
moojin confirmed to hle
one thing for sure about lck this season is that griffin are the big winners. pretty much no team other than griffin has a roster and at the end of the transfer window who knows where all the big players will be.
lck standards are gonna suck imo.
if hle get a decent top laner i think they could actually be a pretty good team, obviously not winning lck level but at least maybe they can finally make playoffs
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Honestly the Jensen to TL move is very interesting. I feel bad for Pobelter. I think he should be able to find a team.
Idk, I think Pob is so overrated, he's been around forever but he's never been on the same level as someone like Jensen and Caps, who have half his career. He's done well domestically, has he ever done well on the international stage? I'm a bit sad Jensen is going to move, but maybe that's what TL needs.
one thing for sure about lck this season is that griffin are the big winners. pretty much no team other than griffin has a roster and at the end of the transfer window who knows where all the big players will be.
lck standards are gonna suck imo.
I'm pretty sure we're going to see some super teams forming in LCK after the transfer window, specifically hoping for a strong SKT. LCK is probably licking its wounds from this year's Worlds, they're going to recover and if more than one super team forms, might be the most competitive they've ever been.
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KT and losing their young mid lane talent. smfh
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Faker confirmed to stay with SKT along with effort.
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On November 20 2018 18:13 DarkCore wrote:Show nested quote +Honestly the Jensen to TL move is very interesting. I feel bad for Pobelter. I think he should be able to find a team. Idk, I think Pob is so overrated, he's been around forever but he's never been on the same level as someone like Jensen and Caps, who have half his career. He's done well domestically, has he ever done well on the international stage? I'm a bit sad Jensen is going to move, but maybe that's what TL needs. Show nested quote +one thing for sure about lck this season is that griffin are the big winners. pretty much no team other than griffin has a roster and at the end of the transfer window who knows where all the big players will be.
lck standards are gonna suck imo. I'm pretty sure we're going to see some super teams forming in LCK after the transfer window, specifically hoping for a strong SKT. LCK is probably licking its wounds from this year's Worlds, they're going to recover and if more than one super team forms, might be the most competitive they've ever been. :O
I mean he's good as a NA mid if you wanted imports in other roles. But I agree with him not being on the same level as Jensen or Caps.
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On November 20 2018 23:56 JimmiC wrote:I didn't think TSM would be willing to give up on that bot lane so soon. Who they gonna get Bang and wolf?
We've seen time and again TSM letting go of players that don't want to be around or teams in general facilitating things(recent example with Jensen).
Zven's tweet isn't exactly helping things either in that department.
I think Pray/Gorilla are still FAs, have expressed interest in joining TSM the last time they were FAs, and can speak English - the main reason why TSM has avoided Korean players after Lustboy left the roster.
An idea being mulled over is that Mithy wants to go back to EU and right now it's coming down to whether Zven wants to stay or go.
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Maybe I'm just used to the old name, but "L-E-C" sounds awful.
Inb4 the whole team plays super passive, Froggen and Soaz forget human communication is possible and Amazing gets benched after a month.
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Should just be ELC.
Edit: Think they're trying to keep branding consistent as every major region (other than NA LCS but now that EU LCS is gone guess they are just LCS?) has L at the start
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I was about to post that link but knowing Jacob Wolf I think it's safe to say it's true then. Idk why Perkz would want to move to Bot Lane.
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Not like Perkz has never played ad carries.
Also Alphari, nukeduck and Sheriff to Origen according to the database.
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On November 21 2018 03:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Not like Perkz has never played ad carries.
Also Alphari, nukeduck and Sheriff to Origen according to the database.
True since he had played funnel Kai'sa and played Lucian Mid before. Alphari, nukeduck, and Sheriff to Origen would be a strong team I think at least top 5 by end of Spring.
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That would shit all over the SoaZ/Amazing/Froggen/Zven/Mithy OG rumors, which was a roster I really liked.
Also I don't get why G2 would get rid of Hjarnan and Wadid after Hjarnan's Heimer handicapped the enemy teams to a top 4 finish
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RIP those Origen froggen hype unless...Also, nobody said anything about Wadid going and it could be a FLEX substitution :D
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I always got the impression from Froggen that he strongly prefers NA.
Btw I would strongly dislike that OG roster you guys talked about. Too many old players, too many opinions on how to play the game, too much risk aversion.
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Yeah, veteran teams never seem to work out, they cling to their old beliefs too much.
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Holy shit. TL CoreJJ hype. I always liked CoreJJ and he's the perfect foil for Olleh assuming they keep him.
Edit: Assumign they don't keep Olleh, it seems like for Doublelift, CoreJJ's style is definitely better. Olleh and DL never seemed to be on the same page and Olleh's play on non-mage supports left a lot to be desired.
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Corejj boosted to a Steve contract by Ruler
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Edit: Crazy night going to sleep will update the thread with any other news when i wake up :D
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yeah this off season is so exciting already lol
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Febiven to Misfits confirmed.
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Sweet, now Febi can lose his America weight.
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On November 21 2018 03:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Not like Perkz has never played ad carries.
Also Alphari, nukeduck and Sheriff to Origen according to the database.
come duo
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well I mean, it gives pobelter a shot at starting in the LCS this year
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Perkz to ADC seems very odd. Isn't he like...one of the best EU mids?
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Rumor is Misfits is Soaz/Maxlore/Febi/Hans and a support
source, Jacob Wolf
In line with said rumor Misfits renews Maxlore's contract. Jacktroll and Cabo renew with Vitality
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Is xPeke or his mom in any way involved with the new Origen?
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So Vitality are basically running the same roster...bold.
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On November 22 2018 08:32 AdsMoFro wrote:
So Vitality are basically running the same roster...bold.
Honestly they should. Fnatic should, C9 should have too. I think that this year there were teams that clearly hit their ceilings and teams that didn't. That VIT roster still has insane room to grow, and now that they've tasted the world championship and came so close to the top 8, they're even more motivated and will show up even more. I contrast that to a KT or a TL where I don't really see either of those teams in their 2018 iterations getting any better than they already are/were, so change seemed inevitable
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On November 22 2018 09:25 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2018 08:32 AdsMoFro wrote:
So Vitality are basically running the same roster...bold. Honestly they should. Fnatic should, C9 should have too. I think that this year there were teams that clearly hit their ceilings and teams that didn't. That VIT roster still has insane room to grow, and now that they've tasted the world championship and came so close to the top 8, they're even more motivated and will show up even more. I contrast that to a KT or a TL where I don't really see either of those teams in their 2018 iterations getting any better than they already are/were, so change seemed inevitable
There are no players in this Vitality squad who can get better by a significant margin. All they can do is to become less clueless in certain metagames, but it's ok, one good run is already better than most get.
Either way, while Rogue are trying to find coaches, they had enough time to get HeaQ on board.
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41045182-4
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On November 22 2018 09:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2018 09:25 chipmonklord17 wrote:On November 22 2018 08:32 AdsMoFro wrote:
So Vitality are basically running the same roster...bold. Honestly they should. Fnatic should, C9 should have too. I think that this year there were teams that clearly hit their ceilings and teams that didn't. That VIT roster still has insane room to grow, and now that they've tasted the world championship and came so close to the top 8, they're even more motivated and will show up even more. I contrast that to a KT or a TL where I don't really see either of those teams in their 2018 iterations getting any better than they already are/were, so change seemed inevitable There are no players in this Vitality squad who can get better by a significant margin. All they can do is to become less clueless in certain metagames, but it's ok, one good run is already better than most get. Either way, while Rogue are trying to find coaches, they had enough time to get HeaQ on board. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41045182-4
I guess that's where I disagree, the core of the team are still rookies, and definitely have room to grow imo.
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On November 22 2018 09:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2018 09:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On November 22 2018 09:25 chipmonklord17 wrote:On November 22 2018 08:32 AdsMoFro wrote:
So Vitality are basically running the same roster...bold. Honestly they should. Fnatic should, C9 should have too. I think that this year there were teams that clearly hit their ceilings and teams that didn't. That VIT roster still has insane room to grow, and now that they've tasted the world championship and came so close to the top 8, they're even more motivated and will show up even more. I contrast that to a KT or a TL where I don't really see either of those teams in their 2018 iterations getting any better than they already are/were, so change seemed inevitable There are no players in this Vitality squad who can get better by a significant margin. All they can do is to become less clueless in certain metagames, but it's ok, one good run is already better than most get. Either way, while Rogue are trying to find coaches, they had enough time to get HeaQ on board. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41045182-4 I guess that's where I disagree, the core of the team are still rookies, and definitely have room to grow imo.
If they do, great for Europe.
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Pob/Huhi to 100T seems likely
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Huhi left CLG. Joined 100 Thieves.
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Yeah rip for Levi. He should move. Guy was one of the hottest players in the last offseason and he's basically wasted a year.
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Honestly coming to NA at all was a big yikes from Levi, but its hard to resist cold hard cash
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Mannnn, Nisqy really? Guy's never impressed me. Would rather POB and an open slot for non resident..
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Mid-tier EU midlaner = top tier in NA.
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Wow, what a pickup for AF, doesn't get much better than that.
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Getting the Kingzone bot duo for Afreeca would make them fkn scary. Two carry players in the mid/top and a solid bot lane. Just save me from that inting that Kkramer and tusin were doing at worlds plz.
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This SKT roster is actually insane and I can't wait to see them play, also Afreeca with both Kiin and Ucal is really awesome, I hope they can get a better botlane lane then Kramer Tusin
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On November 21 2018 01:13 AdsMoFro wrote:
Should just be ELC.
Edit: Think they're trying to keep branding consistent as every major region (other than NA LCS but now that EU LCS is gone guess they are just LCS?) has L at the start
ELC is an appropriate name
https://www.elc.co.uk/
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Rumor that ADD is moving to BLG.
Kongdoo Monster's backing org Still8 has purchased Team Griffin. Team name will stay the same this split but may change next split.
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On November 22 2018 23:52 JimmiC wrote:
This is the best move of the offseason. If you can't build a competitive roster, buy one!
Gotta beat Samsung to the "get back in LCK by buying a team" punch.
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On November 23 2018 00:13 JimmiC wrote:
Who is BLG?
BiliBili Gaming. LPL Team. Was a decent mid-tier team.
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On November 21 2018 15:29 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Rumor is Misfits is Soaz/Maxlore/Febi/Hans and a support
source, Jacob Wolf
In line with said rumor Misfits renews Maxlore's contract. Jacktroll and Cabo renew with Vitality
Everyone confirmed so far, Misfits just looking for that new support, I'd love it if Misfit's save Ignar from his chicken prison
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On November 23 2018 02:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2018 15:29 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Rumor is Misfits is Soaz/Maxlore/Febi/Hans and a support
source, Jacob Wolf
In line with said rumor Misfits renews Maxlore's contract. Jacktroll and Cabo renew with Vitality Everyone confirmed so far, Misfits just looking for that new support, I'd love it if Misfit's save Ignar from his chicken prison
Speaking of Ignar...
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Come on Misfits save him from his Chicken prison
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The Froggen link doesn't work. I had hoped we'd see him in EU again but on any team is ok.
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Basically he said in a thorin YouTube video he has lived here long enough it would be more of a transplant for him to move to Eu than stay in NA but he’s open to either
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Huh that's interesting, he's been one of the few players I've liked throughout an entire career, and want to see in pro play again.
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I always found Froggen a snoozefest to watch. To each their own I guess.
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Fly quest is my early front runner for 10th
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Locodoco just said on stream he's heard Rush is talking to Echo Fox.
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locodoco should stop leaking everything he hears so that he can get some attention. its honestly pretty disrespectful for the parties involved in whichever news he leaks. surely the organisations and players arent appreciative of what hes doing either
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On November 23 2018 09:11 JimmiC wrote:
Jensen a resident next year?
He'll be a resident by summer.
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Gen.G resign Cuvee, Fly, Ruler and Life. Might have a name change and/or colour/logo change.
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On November 23 2018 10:38 JimmiC wrote:
Soon people wont tell him shit
Yeah just like Woj, Shefter, and Olney.
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On November 23 2018 09:12 Slusher wrote:
Fly quest is my early front runner for 10th
i mean they already made playoffs once with a worse midlaner, i fully expect optic and golden guardians to stay as 9 and 10th for the foreseeable future
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Gorilla to Misfits confirmed.
Jacob Wolf reporting Vizicsacsi will go to Splyce with Odoamne on the market.
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Bwipo re-signs with Fnatic.
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On November 23 2018 16:15 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2018 09:12 Slusher wrote:
Fly quest is my early front runner for 10th i mean they already made playoffs once with a worse midlaner, i fully expect optic and golden guardians to stay as 9 and 10th for the foreseeable future
We don’t know their rosters yet, of what we do know fly quest with Pob and Flame publicity tweeting he’s looking for offers is the worst.
Gg and Cg are suspect for sure but we don’t know anything yet
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Wow, that Misfits team is stacked. Sad to see the end of Pray and Gorilla combo though.
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I’m not sure how importing works but pray has mandatory military after 1 season maximum So he might be done
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lol
Bang and Wolf separated first, now Pray and Gorilla.
End of the bot lane duos
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Nisqy to Cloud9 confirmed.
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On November 23 2018 23:08 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2018 14:45 cLutZ wrote:On November 23 2018 10:38 JimmiC wrote:
Soon people wont tell him shit Yeah just like Woj, Shefter, and Olney. Good point, I guess it depends whether the people he is getting his info from want it shared.
Players almost always want more rumors. The only parties that don't are teams and Riot which would prefer the clicks to be on their websites (which makes the current /r/lol policy insanely in the favor of those institutions) and also less tomorrow generally drives down salaries (which is an endgame goal of franchising).
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Froggen to Golden Guardians???
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Forgive my god for whatever I have done to anger you.
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I can hear Thooorin raging from here.
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honestly if they use their other import slot they could be better than Flyquest.
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People shat on Samsung for never paying to keep their best rosters, yet here Gen.G is paying out their ass for Peanut.
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CG and Echo Fox transfer players. Sending Solo/Apollo/Hakuho to Echo Fox and Huni to Clutch.
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On November 25 2018 02:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
That trade seems super Clutch favored when you consider EF already has Smoothie
Clutch Gaming on Friday received a commitment from top laner Heo "Huni" Seung-hoon. Huni will compete alongside jungler Nam "LirA" Tae-yoo, Chae "Piglet" Gwang-jin and Philippe "Vulcan" Laflamme, which will be on Clutch's main roster, sources said.
Echo Fox is evaluating potential trade options for Joshua "Dardoch" Hartnett, sources said, signaling a potential clean slate for the team. Clutch Gaming will now search for a mid laner, as Echo Fox continues to hunt for solutions in both jungle and mid.
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this last year in the FGC Echo fox dumped all their good players and became more of a budget team, so we might be seeing Golden Guardians v2 if my instincts are correct. If you put solo at a similar level to last year, he's just not passable in the NALCS
on that note I'm really waiting to hear where FLame goes, I think he's one of the few players left who can turn a bad team into a mid tier team.
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Holy shit, 2019 has no Pray/Gorilla, Bang/Wolf, Deft/Mata, Betty/SwordArt, Zven/Mithy, or Ruler/CoreJJ. So many world famous bot lanes being separated, and that's without any LPL offseason news
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I don't know if there's been confirmation Zven is indeed staying with TSM yet.
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On November 25 2018 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
I don't know if there's been confirmation Zven is indeed staying with TSM yet.
Most top-tier EU teams have their bot lanes locked in so it seems likely he's staying.
But man...these Optic and Echo Fox roster...ffs.
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On November 25 2018 10:58 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2018 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
I don't know if there's been confirmation Zven is indeed staying with TSM yet. Most top-tier EU teams have their bot lanes locked in so it seems likely he's staying. But man...these Optic and Echo Fox roster...ffs.
Wait do we have word on Optic's roster?
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On November 25 2018 12:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2018 10:58 AdsMoFro wrote:On November 25 2018 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
I don't know if there's been confirmation Zven is indeed staying with TSM yet. Most top-tier EU teams have their bot lanes locked in so it seems likely he's staying. But man...these Optic and Echo Fox roster...ffs. Wait do we have word on Optic's roster?
Not really, and with all the big names already accounted for (plus the rumors they were trying to sell their spot) it's highly unlikely they're putting up a team that's gonna do much.
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Caps left Fnatic....G2 Caps incoming???
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Super weird decision by Caps tbh, I think this Fnatic team could have been world champions some day. I feel extra bad for Rekkles with this move, its the second time he's watched a team he knew could take it all lose their talent before they could show all they could do.
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=1-25365192
ESPN reporting G2 will be Wunder/Jankos/Caps/Perkz/Mikyx
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On November 26 2018 02:53 AdsMoFro wrote:
Caps left Fnatic....G2 Caps incoming???
I thought this was announced already.
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On November 26 2018 03:01 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 02:53 AdsMoFro wrote:
Caps left Fnatic....G2 Caps incoming??? I thought this was announced already.
Was rumored but they just posted the thank you caps video. Now we wait for g2 caps confirmation...
Edit: IN the meantime, S04 Memento confirmed.
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On November 26 2018 02:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Super weird decision by Caps tbh, I think this Fnatic team could have been world champions some day. I feel extra bad for Rekkles with this move, its the second time he's watched a team he knew could take it all lose their talent before they could show all they could do.
I'm guessing it's because Fnatic doesn't pay their players as much as other top teams do and isn't interested in changing that.
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Or maybe there are just teams with deeper pockets. Fnatic apparently has always tried to keep their sponsorships small so they can control their team more, but obviously that also means when pay day comes they rely on prestige and not the salary they offer.
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On November 26 2018 03:41 Sent. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 02:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Super weird decision by Caps tbh, I think this Fnatic team could have been world champions some day. I feel extra bad for Rekkles with this move, its the second time he's watched a team he knew could take it all lose their talent before they could show all they could do. I'm guessing it's because Fnatic doesn't pay their players as much as other top teams do and isn't interested in changing that.
According to Fnatic's owner they're doubling their LoL investment for 2019. Apparently, it wasn't about money so...this is the second high profile departure from a Fnatic player that wasn't about money (Yellowstar before). Gotta wonder what's it about then?
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Maybe people don't like Rekkles?
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According to ESPN Ignar/Abbedagge and Odoamne to S04.
Optic sign Crown.
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Haunzer not being signed is odd since he's not an import. Also the new tsm toplaner is who?
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TSM getting a new top laner before jungler? Sounds like a big yikes unless they're replacing both
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On November 26 2018 06:52 cLutZ wrote:
Haunzer not being signed is odd since he's not an import. Also the new tsm toplaner is who?
EUW soloq star Broken Blade. Apparently has played in the Turkish league and been kicking ass there too.
On November 26 2018 07:22 chipmonklord17 wrote:
TSM getting a new top laner before jungler? Sounds like a big yikes unless they're replacing both
In the contract database the only jungler is Grig in the Academy spot. Safe to say they're getting a new jungler too.
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Not only that but Jacob wolf said TSM has been unable to recieve trade offers for him, really surprising people are giving up on him based on 1 split
I'm confused as well
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Maybe they just don't like the terms of the contract + whatever it would take to trade for him, so they'd rather wait and see if TSM will cut him and they can make a fresh deal with him.
Then there's the question of how coachable he is, since he hasn't corrected obvious mistakes in his play patterns for a while and always seems disconnected when they do post game meetings on Legends. Like dude straight up isn't looking at the coach and is instead fucking around on his phone.
Edit: Broken Blade is streaming right now, duoing with Zven.
https://www.twitch.tv/404brokenblade
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I was hoping they would get flame but this addresses more holes
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Mata Joins SKT, lol what a fuking Super team
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SKT looks spicy as fuck Khan/Klid(Haru)/Faker/Teddy/Mata
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This might become the first time in my league fandom that none of my teams suck
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Pawn, Tusin and Deft to Kingzone.
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Crown
Fucking end me lol, what a fall from world champion to NA B team.
SKT Mata confirmed.
This makes up for what I just read.
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Pawn and Deft reunited hahahaha
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Loken joins Knight in Topsports Gaming's recent signings.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1067060495444627457
Pilot to Royal Youth.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/rylbandits/status/1067031362279014400
Profit and Wadid join Kikis and HeaQ in Rogue.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/1067085612463796228
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^^ Please Spoiler tweets for the sake of mobile users. Should be a sitewide rule.
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Flame and Keane officially left FQ and Akaadian officially left Optic
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What's super crazy is Meteos and RO will more than likely not be in the LCS this split. RO is fucked harder by being an import, so his options shrink immensely (down to staying on CLG, Optic, or Fox). If the rumors about CLG Flame are true he's gotta be out of CLG with their pick up of PoE. There's 4 jungle spots open, TSM, Fox, Optic, CLG and Dardoch, RO, Meteos, Akaadian, and Grig competing for them. If Dardoch stays on Fox that makes 3 spots for 4 guys, and Wiggly is rumored to be CLG's starting jungler
Add to that TSM has denied TSM.Dardoch being a thing and Meteos as said he doesn't wanna be there, I don't know who is going to get a spot in the LCS
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Grig is signed to TSM through the 2019 season, not confirmed as starter.
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RO fucked over himself with his gameplay but hey I said that about Piglet and someone was willing to start him
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On November 27 2018 02:51 cLutZ wrote:
^^ Please Spoiler tweets for the sake of mobile users. Should be a sitewide rule.
Will start doing it from now on.
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On November 27 2018 09:50 Slusher wrote:
RO fucked over himself with his gameplay but hey I said that about Piglet and someone was willing to start him
Don't get me wrong I don't think RO played well this year, but I don't know if he's 'so bad to not be in LCS' bad
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I do think Stitch is actually a pretty solid player
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News out of EU. Rogue signs Freddy122 as head coach. From the rumors it looks like they're Roccat 2.0 so a front-runner for last place.
News out of Turkey. GBM signs with Royal Youth (team with Pilot).
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Viper joins Fly Quest.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/FlyQuestSports/status/1067494282506862592
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Selfie isn't playing in LEC this spring:
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/SelfieMid/status/1067472463225896960
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On November 28 2018 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:Selfie isn't playing in LEC this spring: + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/SelfieMid/status/1067472463225896960
Selfie retweeted Samux saying he also won't be in LEC this spring
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/SamuxLoL/status/1067476109820903425
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On November 28 2018 04:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2018 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:Selfie isn't playing in LEC this spring: + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/SelfieMid/status/1067472463225896960 Selfie retweeted Samux saying he also won't be in LEC this spring + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/SamuxLoL/status/1067476109820903425
They both could of been starters but I guessing they want new blood.
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Probably going to be near the bottom of the league with this lineup but maybe they can surprise. Difficult to get excited about this lineup
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Huni => Clutch confirmed.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ClutchGaming/status/1067522367549771777
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Clutch building a respectable roster. Depends on how Piglet plays if the Apollo/Hakuho to Echo Fox are true but we could see a bit of a dark horse. Their potential is high and their potential to crash and burn is even higher.
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Meteos signs with Optic.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/status/1067572592867852289/video/1
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Why has everyone started calling EU LCS LEC? We need not accept all riot's newsspeak. People still say ADC goddammit!
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Because it sounds better than Eu lcs
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On November 28 2018 11:14 cLutZ wrote:
Why has everyone started calling EU LCS LEC? We need not accept all riot's newsspeak. People still say ADC goddammit!
what else are you supposed to call adc
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With Meteos to Optic we now have RO/Grig/Akaadian/Dardoch for the spots on Fox, TSM, and CLG. Providing the CLG Flame rumors are true, RO can't be on CLG again and can't be on TSM, so its Fox or bust for him. The other's have more room to move, but I expect Grig/Akaadian to be in academy for the split
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On November 28 2018 11:30 Slusher wrote:
Because it sounds better than Eu lcs
Nah man. Like LCK, LEC is a bad 3 letter combination. LCE would be better (League Championship Europe) as would ELC (European League Championship).
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Current rumor is CLG is starting wiggly, tsm is starting Akaadian, it’s actually looking bad for Dardoch atm, no word on echo fox other than their budget is basically 0 and they still had a spot to fill(probably jungle from what we know) when all other teams had finalized.
I’m going to make my prediction Moon, he’s probably cheap,has upside and played on clutch with 3/5 of their starters.
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On November 28 2018 14:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
With Meteos to Optic we now have RO/Grig/Akaadian/Dardoch for the spots on Fox, TSM, and CLG. Providing the CLG Flame rumors are true, RO can't be on CLG again and can't be on TSM, so its Fox or bust for him. The other's have more room to move, but I expect Grig/Akaadian to be in academy for the split
Reignover went from highest paid LCS player, to not even being wanted by anyone lol
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Kinda what happens when you haven't done anything for what, 2 seasons?
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Vitality sign Mowgli.
Steelback won't be in LEC next season.
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Ian and Kramer join LGD, marking some of the first offseason news from China
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+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1067801241839783936
Ben to Topsports Gaming, team which added Knight and Loken earlier to their roster, not going to be the last addition to the roster.
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To nobody's surprise, Vulcan is announced as a starter for Clutch Gaming in 2019.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ClutchGaming/status/1067866494724423685
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Vitality sign Mowgli.
Damn, if they keep up their Worlds performance that's one scary team. Fnatic going to have to be in peak condition if they want to keep G2 and VIT under control.
Ian and Kramer join LGD
RIP, LGD is where players go to die.
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We'll see. TSM was supposed to be amazing last year and... we saw how that worked out.
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IG re-signed Ning, however, Baolan, confirmed on Twitter that he won't be re-signing and talked a lot about some hatred between team members. Trouble in paradise?
Edit: He liked a post about people holding hate between each other, so didn't specifically talk about hatred. Make of that what you will.
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i dont know shit about the chinese scene but topsports gaming have 2 great players already
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On November 29 2018 17:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont know shit about the chinese scene but topsports gaming have 2 great players already
Their jungler is super hyped as well. His name is xX. Started off slow but in the summer split he had a great time, I'm excited to watch him/
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G2 officially announces Caps/Perkz/Mikyx. Still seems like a silly change all around, both from Caps choosing to leave Fnatic and G2 thinking of swapping Perkz. Maybe they'll prove me wrong
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Golden Guardians Hauntzer confirmed
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+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ClutchGaming/status/1068211106165006336
One more confirmation from Clutch Gaming on LirA this time, so Piglet will be officially announced tomorrow to round out the roster for 2019.
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+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Marco_YS35/status/1068339938930831360
Baolan back at IG.
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LPL announces two new teams.SDG (LDL Summer champion) and V5 a Macau team that's owned by the son of Stanley Ho.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1068460287802494976
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I am hyped for Mikyx/Perkz.
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On November 30 2018 21:11 AdsMoFro wrote:LPL announces two new teams.SDG (LDL Summer champion) and V5 a Macau team that's owned by the son of Stanley Ho. + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1068460287802494976
For those curious (and lazy) here is the SDG roster
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1068436433373880320
Also after representing the LJL at MSI this year, Pentagram disbands
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exceL signs Jeskla as their adc
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/exceL/status/1068572911601180672
Schalke adds Abbedagge as a mid laner
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/S04Esports/status/1068550229115486208
Splyce add Humanoid as a mid laner
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Splyce/status/1068552313122500611
GGS Olleh is official
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/GoldenGuardians/status/1068578725162172416
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On December 01 2018 01:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Also after representing the LJL at MSI this year, Pentagram disbands
There were some pretty big rumors about them treating players poorly so maybe one of those "disbanded" ones were riot taps them on the shoulder.
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The site that leaked TSM Broken Blade among other things, just said that former SKT Support, Wolf, is joining Supermassive and Pirean is signing with SK Gaming.
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+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/clutchgaming/status/1068604232377532429
Shocking content, but Piglet is announced by Clutch Gaming as a starter.
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Honestly if it hadn’t been leaked slow dripping up to a finale if “we promoted our academy AD” would have been so fucking hype.
Fuck Jacob Wolf.
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So..Fenix returns to the team that fucked him over. Must've been desperate. Oh, and Rush returns to NA with Echo Fox. Hope he streams again!
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/echofoxgg/status/1068689910490574848?s=19
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pretty hilarious that Fenix is going back to Echo Fox, gotta be a little awkward
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Rush on Fox confirms Reignover is out of NALCS [assuming CLGFlame is true], and leaves Grig/Akaadian/Dardoch for just the TSM and CLG spots (although again its highly rumored Wiggly will start for CLG)
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the word on CLG Flame has gone ice cold, but he can't beat out Wiggly for the job anyway
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Wiggly is a jungler though, no?
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On December 01 2018 12:53 Gahlo wrote:
Wiggly is a jungler though, no?
Yeah. I think he meant that Reignover can't beat out Wiggily and with flame in the team, they'd have two imports with him and POE.
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I’m saying the word is the Flame deal died but Wiggly is the jungle starter either way
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So TSM Dardoch is confirmed I assumed, Echo Fox got quality jungler kind boy as their "we're too poor to pay more than 200k" guy, and selling Dardoch to TSM for sweet buyout money?
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Not confirmed, just makes too much sense.
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On December 01 2018 07:15 AdsMoFro wrote:
The site that leaked TSM Broken Blade among other things, just said that former SKT Support, Wolf, is joining Supermassive and Pirean is signing with SK Gaming.
How is Turkey able to afford importing so many foreigners ?
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On December 01 2018 23:10 Sent. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2018 07:15 AdsMoFro wrote:
The site that leaked TSM Broken Blade among other things, just said that former SKT Support, Wolf, is joining Supermassive and Pirean is signing with SK Gaming.
How is Turkey able to afford importing so many foreigners ?
Because look at that sponsor list.
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Actually the rumor on Dardoch right now is no team he struck out pretty hard on a compatibility level with CLG and the only teams left are CLG and CLGs coach at that time.
What I’ve heard is Bjerg and Sven strongly preferred Grig to any of the available free agents
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On December 02 2018 01:11 Slusher wrote:
Actually the rumor on Dardoch right now is no team he struck out pretty hard on a compatibility level with CLG and the only teams left are CLG and CLGs coach at that time.
What I’ve heard is Bjerg and Sven strongly preferred Grig to any of the available free agents
I honestly don't understand how you pick Grig over Dardoch, Akaadian I'll give them. And those two are the only free junglers left unless you go with rookies
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I mean Zikz preferred Omargod to him on CLG.
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You'd probably get slaughtered in Istanbul for that, since Ruin joined Fenerbahçe.
Dardoch does not fit into TSM at all, since he requires pushing sololanes who are going to invade with him to function and neither Broken Blade or Bjergsen are particularly known for doing that nowadays. CLG is nearly the same for the exception of PoE on certain champions, which is why Reignover fumbled there, so no wonder that neither of two needs Dardoch right now.
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On December 02 2018 03:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:You'd probably get slaughtered in Istanbul for that, since Ruin joined Fenerbahçe. Dardoch does not fit into TSM at all, since he requires pushing sololanes who are going to invade with him to function and neither Broken Blade or Bjergsen are particularly known for doing that nowadays. CLG is nearly the same for the exception of PoE on certain champions, which is why Reignover fumbled there, so no wonder that neither of two needs Dardoch right now.
WHOOPS... I was looking at TCL teams while writing that I promise :D
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I also think its crazy that TSM as an org put more weight on Hauntzer being the issue than Grig. Because there's a zero percent chance Hauntzer willingly left TSM. Not that I don't think Haunzter has been an issue, but keeping Grig feels like a really flawed strat and I definitely would have chosen to shop for junglers as opposed to top laners if both opportunities presented itself.
Mithy is a different story because you could tell even from the Legends series he wasn't having a good time
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On December 02 2018 04:28 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I also think its crazy that TSM as an org put more weight on Hauntzer being the issue than Grig. Because there's a zero percent chance Hauntzer willingly left TSM. Not that I don't think Haunzter has been an issue, but keeping Grig feels like a really flawed strat and I definitely would have chosen to shop for junglers as opposed to top laners if both opportunities presented itself.
Mithy is a different story because you could tell even from the Legends series he wasn't having a good time
I'd think there's internal issues there. There's no way you give up one of the few domestic top laners in NA that have shown they actually have some brain power if there wasn't an unsolvable issue.
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To everyone's surprise, Vizicsacsi is announced as a toplaner for Splyce in 2019.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Splyce/status/1068964387300331520
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I think Dardoch has gotten pretty fucked by Echo Fox asking too much for him.
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It could be hot outside tomorrow and I'd blame Echo Fox, to be fair.
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On December 02 2018 14:05 Gahlo wrote:
It could be hot outside tomorrow and I'd blame Echo Fox, to be fair.
lol
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On December 02 2018 14:05 Gahlo wrote:
It could be hot outside tomorrow and I'd blame Echo Fox, to be fair.
Can confirm
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On December 02 2018 14:05 Gahlo wrote:
It could be hot outside tomorrow and I'd blame Echo Fox, to be fair.
same lol
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Former SKT support, Wolf, denies that he's going to play in Turkey.
Edit: And..like 20 minutes later. Wolf joins Supermassive (alongside Frozen).
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/1069261686106771456
Also, Rogue Profit confirmed.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/GoingRogueGG/status/1069259980006719488
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Ahh Turkey, the afterlife region of the League scene
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Rush said on stream last night his contract includes streaming obligations. I mean I’m glad because Rush is the best streamer on twitch but kinda lol at the same time.
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On December 03 2018 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Ahh Turkey, the afterlife region of the League scene
NA must be ecstatic that Turkey exists to make them look better :D
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+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/exceL/status/1069290139090739201
ExceL signs Caedrel as their jungler.
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On December 03 2018 02:49 Slusher wrote:
Rush said on stream last night his contract includes streaming obligations. I mean I’m glad because Rush is the best streamer on twitch but kinda lol at the same time.
This is incredibly common, at least in other esports.
On December 03 2018 03:09 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2018 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Ahh Turkey, the afterlife region of the League scene NA must be ecstatic that Turkey exists to make them look better :D
NA is where careers go to die, Turkey is where they go after
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Show nested quote +On December 03 2018 03:09 AdsMoFro wrote:On December 03 2018 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Ahh Turkey, the afterlife region of the League scene NA must be ecstatic that Turkey exists to make them look better :D NA is where careers go to die, Turkey is where they go after
Can you, please, name foreigners, who came to NA with functioning limbs and at least some motivation left in the tank, and killed their promising careers? Besides ohq, of course.
And then, if you do not mind, do the same for TCL, curious to find out about uprising or decent South Korean and European players, who got worse there as well.
Thank you in advance.
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Bwipo played in Turkey right? So did the new TSM top. If anything seems the region has a bit more upcoming talent in the league than NA.
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If people on reddit know what they're talking about, Broken Blade is German, both his parents are Turkish and that's how he chooses to identify himself.
Oh, and Dardoch has a team apparently.
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On December 03 2018 05:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2018 03:09 AdsMoFro wrote:On December 03 2018 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Ahh Turkey, the afterlife region of the League scene NA must be ecstatic that Turkey exists to make them look better :D NA is where careers go to die, Turkey is where they go after Can you, please, name foreigners, who came to NA with functioning limbs and at least some motivation left in the tank, and killed their promising careers? Besides ohq, of course. And then, if you do not mind, do the same for TCL, curious to find out about uprising or decent South Korean and European players, who got worse there as well. Thank you in advance.
I mean GBM went to both and is mediocre as fuck. RO went from amazing in EU to literally unwanted in NA. It was mostly a joke, but there's quite a few people who have gone to Turkey after their careers were pretty donezo. Reach is another. Hell Ninja also pulled a GBM too
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It's hard to say either way. Sometimes people just aren't capable of improving past a certain point, despite them being young and good in soloq. The same way relatively unknown and/or mediocre to bad players can become good. (look at Wunder for example)
If a hyped prospect went to a region and didnt become a superstar it's not necessarily the region's fault, or the organization's fault for that matter.
Besides that, motivation and functioning limbs are also difficult to assess in a lot of cases. Of course there are people like GBM and certain other Koreans who just chill and cash out, but can we truly say that someone like Frozen didn't have the ambition to become a top 3 midlaner in the world?
All I'm saying is that saying "player A became bad here" doesn't tell us too much.
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On December 03 2018 08:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2018 05:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 03 2018 03:09 AdsMoFro wrote:On December 03 2018 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Ahh Turkey, the afterlife region of the League scene NA must be ecstatic that Turkey exists to make them look better :D NA is where careers go to die, Turkey is where they go after Can you, please, name foreigners, who came to NA with functioning limbs and at least some motivation left in the tank, and killed their promising careers? Besides ohq, of course. And then, if you do not mind, do the same for TCL, curious to find out about uprising or decent South Korean and European players, who got worse there as well. Thank you in advance. I mean GBM went to both and is mediocre as fuck. RO went from amazing in EU to literally unwanted in NA. It was mostly a joke, but there's quite a few people who have gone to Turkey after their careers were pretty donezo. Reach is another. Hell Ninja also pulled a GBM too
GBM, who wasn't anything special since Gangplank nerfs in 2015, but still murdered both TCL/Rift Rivals. Reach didn't pretend to be good so him being terrible at both TCL/LCL is ok. And Ninja's peak was making WeiXiao retire instead of going to Worlds in 2014, so not sure if worth talking either.
And Reignover was a NA LCS MVP, just in case, head and shoulders above any other player in North America for a year, until Liquid decided that paying six figures could make Reignover tolerate his teammates in 2017 TL.
On December 03 2018 07:14 Numy wrote:
Bwipo played in Turkey right? So did the new TSM top. If anything seems the region has a bit more upcoming talent in the league than NA.
He was nearly relegated in LCL, stint with Dark Passage was too short.
Realistically, TCL is the best place for the upcoming Europeans to play, since EU Masters is a joke and Turkey actually has competition plus funds. Sure, not for everyone, since there is school, but all in all, a decent place to start your career, unless you're Magifelix, your team is a dumpster fire and has Elwind in it.
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XiaoAL
H4cker
Maple(former FW)
Smlz
SwordArt (former FW)
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1069463820156907521
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ADD signs with BLG.
+ Show Spoiler +https://www.facebook.com/MVPSC2/photos/a.182701341853545/1002669373190067/?type=3&theater
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Origin sign Mithy and Kold. Their full confirmed roster stands as Alphari/Kold/Nukeduck/Sheriff/Mithy.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/AndreGuilhoto94/status/1069592237405847553
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PoohManDu is an assistant coach for Misfits Gaming now.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/MisfitsGG/status/1069608343977758720
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Origen squad isn't bad, I like the Sheriff Mithy combo.
Wasn't Pooh an assistant coach for SKT for a while? Hope he brings good things to the team, I enjoy Misfits.
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On December 04 2018 05:33 DarkCore wrote:
Origen squad isn't bad, I like the Sheriff Mithy combo.
Wasn't Pooh an assistant coach for SKT for a while? Hope he brings good things to the team, I enjoy Misfits.
Yeah, he did some coaching in LPL and then SKT.
Also, Reignover leaves CLG.
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Zefa joins SKT T1 as a coach:
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/sktelecom_t1/status/1069471341483413504
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He's retiring, isn't he. That's real sad, wish him the best. Maybe he'll stream xD?
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Exileh to exceL
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UK esports is proud of this team.
Pobelter is officially announced as a midlaner for FlyQuest.
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Norskeren completes the Splyce's lineup.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Splyce/status/1070046250505068545
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Gilius "Best jungle eu" joins Besiktas
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Optic Dardoch
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/status/1070122422257504257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Wonder was right about Dardoch quelle surprise our liquibets champion knows about League
Also, GenG exchanged a Mong for a cockroach, most ironic off season transaction. Probably also bad for GenG because Cuvee really needs a competitive sub to make him work hard when it isn't gauntlet time
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Dardoch and Meteos on the same team with Crown in mid to boot. This is gonna be a real mental boom team, I can feel it.
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On December 03 2018 16:29 AdsMoFro wrote:Rumored SN Gaming roster:| XiaoAL H4cker Maple(former FW) Smlz SwordArt (former FW) + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1069463820156907521
SNG confirms via Weibo
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News from the day:
- Akaadian leaks that he's joining TSM as their academy jungler.
- Echo Fox confirm their signing of Apollo/Hakuho and Solo.
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This is gonna be a real mental boom team, I can feel feed it.
Isn't H4cker really good? Name rings some kind of a bell.
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On December 06 2018 21:26 DarkCore wrote:Isn't H4cker really good? Name rings some kind of a bell.
He has HUUUUUUUGGEEE hype around him from solo queue. Is legit the Chinese Rush or more recently Canyon/Tarzan. Had a bad start to his career but was starting to pick it up towards the end.
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BLG Kuro. Joins ADD as the second Korean on the roster.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1070612778354802689
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Froggen is announced for Golden Guardians.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/GoldenGuardians/status/1070808372058959872
Wiggily to CLG's main team, Moon will play in CLG's Academy roster.
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Tierwulf to Splyce as a substitute jungler.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Splyce/status/1070822696089513984
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Expect joins exceL!
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/exceL/status/1071102085578612737
Trick joins Team Galakticos!
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/TeamGalakticos/status/1071093075785723905
Oh, and Fury joined Team APK Prince so RIP the KT Fury ideas.
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Expect gets to suffer in UK ESPORTS
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I was pretty excited to see him back until I read rest of the team. Really don't get why he didn't have a team this year. Guy was pretty good last year and better than a lot of the random imports Western teams do.
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I'm really glad glad Expect is getting on a team again, I think he was quite underrated on G2 and was an extremely stable and consistent player
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MVP's confirmed roster for CK: Carrot, Yondu, Edge, Garden/Wega, Motive.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/MVP_GG/status/1071311956299014144
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On December 06 2018 21:36 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2018 21:26 DarkCore wrote:This is gonna be a real mental boom team, I can feel feed it. Isn't H4cker really good? Name rings some kind of a bell. He has HUUUUUUUGGEEE hype around him from solo queue. Is legit the Chinese Rush or more recently Canyon/Tarzan. Had a bad start to his career but was starting to pick it up towards the end.
Hacker came second in all pro votes in the LPL and was pretty much the best jungler not on RNG (Ning won a lot of all pro votes becuase he didn't split time and it's easy to look good with those solo lanes)
He is very much the real thing. The rumoured Suning lineup of Xiaoal Hacker Maple SMLZ Swordart is top 4 guaranteed
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Also Rusty has pissed off to GM some OPL team and is lost to casting, Fish has confirmed he is not casting LPL next year.
Sounds like Riot is cancelling the LPL broadcast tbh, which is prettyh awful because this is the year it's finally going to get good with 5+ top tier amazing teams being way more competitive than EDG wins every split days.
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Had no internet for more than 2 weeks, pretty fun to read through all the changes since then. :D
As usual pretty hard to judge the teams, though the new EU teams loom rather weak compared to the old guard. And no idea what to think about all those new mid laners.
I am most impressed by the new Misfits roster, though TL also did really good changes it seems.
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Rumored that Victory5 has signed Ben4, FenFen and Audi/
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On December 09 2018 21:04 Urthor wrote:
Also Rusty has pissed off to GM some OPL team and is lost to casting, Fish has confirmed he is not casting LPL next year.
Sounds like Riot is cancelling the LPL broadcast tbh, which is prettyh awful because this is the year it's finally going to get good with 5+ top tier amazing teams being way more competitive than EDG wins every split days.
Honestly I wouldn't care less, never watched the LPL for the casters, and I watched the CN streams before the English one. But it would still be a bit sad, means that Riot is really eyeing the Asian market and moving away from the Western one, guess they follow the money.
As usual pretty hard to judge the teams, though the new EU teams loom rather weak compared to the old guard. And no idea what to think about all those new mid laners.
It's going to be like every year, EU is going to spit out at least one amazing new mid laner who will fill the 'gaps' left by the old guards moving to NA (or moving to ADC lol). Then at Worlds they'll solokill Faker/(insert equivalent legend) once and everyone will lose their minds.
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Griffin signs Kabbie to play support.
Meanwhile, 100 Thieves Academy player Levi is rumored to be heading to China to play with JD Gaming which I'd be excited about.
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After getting burned by the Levi to NA hype I refuse to be hyped by Levi playing anywhere unless he's fluent in the language
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On December 11 2018 02:54 JimmiC wrote:
Here is a dumb question. Are the Asian languages at all like the European ones where it is easier to learn French once you know Spanish for example?
While I'm no expert whatsoever, I took a couple of semesters of Japanese and I can say Japanese/Chinese/Korean sound 100% different from each other. Maybe if I was fluent that wouldn't be the case but in my entry level knowledge to Japanese I don't know a thing about the others. Compare that to when someone is speaking Italian and you know Spanish, you're vaguely aware of whats going on in some cases
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Arrow on Optic confirmed
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/status/1072204332060344321
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On December 11 2018 02:54 JimmiC wrote:
Here is a dumb question. Are the Asian languages at all like the European ones where it is easier to learn French once you know Spanish for example?
My understanding was that the written alphabets are similar, however, spoken language is still completely different.
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Mickey joins APK Prince (team with Fury).
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On December 11 2018 02:54 JimmiC wrote:
Here is a dumb question. Are the Asian languages at all like the European ones where it is easier to learn French once you know Spanish for example?
depends on what you consider easier, but the simple answer is yes.
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Ignar signs with Schalke 04.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/IgNarLoL/status/1072556446913568769
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Another CK team with some recognised names: Looks like a stacked year of CK.
Coach: Hoon/Winged
Team: Riris/Mightybear/Ggoong/Veritas/Pure/LuBu
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/1072723719175323648
Edit: More news out of CK for the day. APK Prince lock in their roster:
Ikssu, KaKAO, Mickey, Fury, Secret.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/AshleyKang/status/1072758949001064449
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Some news out of EU.
Odoamne signs with Schalke.
Mystiques signs with ExceL.
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How do we know 9/10ths of the teams in LEC but have 0 official news on SK
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NA News:
TL signs Rakin as a content creator/academy sub.
CG signs Cody Sun as their Academy ADC.
KT News:
KT signs Umti and...Gango?
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Idk, maybe KT is going to be a low tier team this season. Would be sad, but it's kind of the same story as Samsung when they lost the two best teams after their legendary year.
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On December 13 2018 22:29 DarkCore wrote:
Idk, maybe KT is going to be a low tier team this season. Would be sad, but it's kind of the same story as Samsung when they lost the two best teams after their legendary year.
Why should they be a low tier, lmao.
They have the best mid/jungle, top-3 support/toplane and Skatch, who is as serviceable as it gets. You do not need to be a prime imp or WeiXiao to play in a team with Bdd in his 2018 form, all you have to do is not be an active detriment and Skatch is not going to be one.
This is essentially a Bdd's chance to not be called a "he's ok, but everyone can win in King-Zone DragonX", but become the best in the world in one of the biggest organisations in the history, and he has everything for it.
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Makes sense, there's no need to differentiate anymore. I approve the move and it was something I was hoping to hear about since EU changed names. Thought Riot would be weird and keep it NA LCS for a year.
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People really need to learn not to be morons on stream especially in offensive ways!
Streaming is a profession that often requires or encourages mental states that are not healthy. It also reveals the worst in people, and some pros/people in the scene use it as a way to vent frustration or fish for compliments, which is so wrong. They use it as a different form of social media, when really you're just preaching to a bunch of randos.
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Flash Wolves with Hanabi/Bugi/Rather/BettyShiauC for the upcoming 2019.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/flashwolves2013/status/1073548223753547776
comet and Easyhoon to coach Suning.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/giftshinku/status/1073511121707909120
doinB to FunPlus Phoenix.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1073503473721720833
Levi to Jindong Gaming.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1073503202572525569
Ghost and Totoro to Team Battlecomics.
+ Show Spoiler +http://e-sports.or.kr/board_kespacup.php?b_no=11&_module=kespacup_lol2018&_page=view&b_no=11&b_pid=9999515700&ckattempt=1
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Brandini, Tactical, and Treatz joined TSM's academy team:
+ Show Spoiler +https://tsm.gg/news/tsm-official-2019-lcs-roster
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Origen ADC, Sherrif name changes to Patrik.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ogpatrik/status/1074296138663165952
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Afreeca sign new ADC, Ssol.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Freecs_LoL/status/1074595616615849984
JDG announces full roster: Coach: Homme. Top: Zoom Jungle: Levi, Flawless, Xiaohan Mid: Yagao ADC: Bvoy Support: LvMao
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/ran_lpl/status/1074606928175628288
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Sheepy joins SK Gaming as head coach while Realistik joins SK Gaming as Head Analyst:
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/SKGaming/status/1075423308051611649
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And your favorite for 'first team to get last place in consecutive splits for the organisation seperated by 2 years' is....
SK Gaming with their roster of: Werlyb(Firstpickjaxorint)/SelfMade/Pirean/Crownshot/Dreams
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I don't know a bunch of those players, but I do remember Werlyb. So I'm going to agree with your prediction.
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On December 20 2018 21:16 AdsMoFro wrote:And your favorite for 'first team to get last place in consecutive splits for the organisation seperated by 2 years' is.... SK Gaming with their roster of: Werlyb(Firstpickjaxorint)/SelfMade/Pirean/Crownshot/Dreams https://twitter.com/SKGaming/status/1075722962467217408
But they were not last 3,5 years ago.
Either way, this is not worse than what xL have, plus this is essentially Mad Lions with a better support and a comparable midlaner, so why not take some scalps in Spring.
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Why do they have to #ad on an advertisement for their own org?
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Wonder has to fact check my memes smh
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Optic Academy team announced.
Top: Allorim
Jungle: Dardoch
Mid: Scarlet
ADC: Asta
Support: Gate
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/status/1075919173535047681
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Vander signs with Rogue's Polish Academy team.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/InvenGlobal/status/1076622151438856192
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Letme is taking a break from the competitive scene:
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/RNGRoyal/status/1076717102692790272
Xpecial is also taking a break from the competitive scene as well:
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Xpecial/status/1076687978301280256
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Watching Demacia cup, I saw a few games where he was heavily camped, probably because teams felt it was the biggest weakness in RNG. Feels bad, I thought he was still alright, but CN is so stupidly stacked right now that one weak link in a team means you don't have a chance for top 4. RNG has to go against the likes of iG, TOP, SN and EDG, Snake might be a contender as well, and the other team are fielding good rosters as well. To stand above the rest, you need a godlike roster.
Still, his statement was pretty depressing, worked hard but not very rewarding.
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New out of today:
- AmazingJ joins RNG
- Ambition retires.
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RNG locks in their 2019 roster.
Top: Letme/AmazingJ
Jungle: MLXG, Karsa, S1xu
Mid: Xiaohu
ADC: Uzi, Wink
Supp: Ming
MLXG has been complaining about injuries so he may be taking a break for part of Spring. Unconfirmed so far, though.
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/RNGRoyal/status/1079863408885882881
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I swear Letme posted to weibo he left RNG like a week ago
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On January 02 2019 03:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I swear Letme posted to weibo he left RNG like a week ago
He said he was taking a break a week ago. Kinda strange though.
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Could just be on the roster to play later in the split as I believe the rosters lock pretty soon for LPL.
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Albis and Westdoor official retire. With a relatively large exodus of players/coaches in the past year (Mountain, Karsa, Maple, SwordArt, Steak, Moojin and Stitch going back to Korea) and players retiring (those two, MMD, Chawy) I can't help but feel like Riot needs to reevaluate how they view the LMS, after years of mediocrity even with their stars
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+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/TSM/status/1084231496339206146
Akaadian to TSM Fanatik to TSM.A, Grig to go Inactive due to wrist problems.
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