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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 02 2018 22:07 GMT
#121
On March 03 2018 07:00 General_Winter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 03:57 iCanada wrote:
Riot talking about nerfing jungle sustain and clear speed.

Apparently it's ok for junglers to be pigeonholed into full clearing to not fall horribly behind, but not okay for top laners to ward at 2:45 in order to not die to a stock
standard gank timing. It would be horrible for the agency of a top laner to have to ward.

Realistically is a buff to my play style, but I just don't see the logic there. It's not even like warding makes you lose anything... everyone gets ward's and they are free.


Where is this? Don’t see it on main page or S@20

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/81de4y/riot_is_thinking_about_reducing_junglers/
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 02 2018 22:15 GMT
#122
I don't see the point of doing that. Jungle isn't in a bad place really.
Freeeeeeedom
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 02 2018 23:24 GMT
#123
I think their goal is actually to make pro play as boring as physically possible.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 02 2018 23:26 GMT
#124
On March 02 2018 19:58 Redox wrote:
What I think voice van do is reduce toxicity. People are more hesitant to be abusive to people they actually talk to. But then again if they do that in voice it is extra annoying.

It goes both ways. Some people are less abusive. But as I found out when my wife and I played on Xbox Live, some people get way, way more abusive in certain situations.

Opt-out doesn't solve the problem either, because you don't want to be pressuring people to choose between putting up with teenage edgelords or being at a competitive disadvantage. If 4/5 of the team is on voice chat that last person is going to be crazy isolated.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
March 03 2018 06:04 GMT
#125
I personally would not use voice chat with the league player base. I'm less worried about the toxic kids, I'm pretty sure I'll be more annoyed by the average player on voice.
TL/SKT
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 03 2018 06:10 GMT
#126
I have always enjoyed my voice chat experience in just about every game. Indeed, I wish there was both intra- and inter- team voice chat in league (also Starcraft).
Freeeeeeedom
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 04 2018 03:27 GMT
#127
Troll Off-meta jungle pick of the day that works: Irelia.

He clear is actually solid as fuck. You hit Level 3 at 2:40 w/ Buff wolves buff start, and you're good at killing wraiths.

Your ganks kinda hit or miss though, its weird because your jungle clear too healthy to reliably get a stun from equilibrium strike. And your skirmishing is kinda shit. So essentially you are a poor mans jax who can't jump away as well as forward and has a more pronounced power curve (slightly weaker early, stronger later). But fun champ, 10/10 would smurf as again.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 04 2018 10:49 GMT
#128
On March 03 2018 08:26 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 19:58 Redox wrote:
What I think voice van do is reduce toxicity. People are more hesitant to be abusive to people they actually talk to. But then again if they do that in voice it is extra annoying.

It goes both ways. Some people are less abusive. But as I found out when my wife and I played on Xbox Live, some people get way, way more abusive in certain situations.

Well reactions to women in voice chat is a special kind of problem. Now that I think about it it is probably one of the biggest issues with general voice chat, sadly.
Off-season = best season
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
March 04 2018 11:06 GMT
#129
CS:GO has voice chat and I was more comfortable playing pubs full of Russians I didn't understand than normal games with people speaking English. For some reason I feel obliged to tryhard when I can hear my teammates' voices, which makes it harder for me to relax. I definitely wouldn't use voice chat if it was implemented in League.

I play on EUW, but I bet EUNE would get even more toxic if it had voice chat.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 04 2018 13:42 GMT
#130
On March 04 2018 20:06 Sent. wrote:
CS:GO has voice chat and I was more comfortable playing pubs full of Russians I didn't understand than normal games with people speaking English. For some reason I feel obliged to tryhard when I can hear my teammates' voices, which makes it harder for me to relax. I definitely wouldn't use voice chat if it was implemented in League.

I play on EUW, but I bet EUNE would get even more toxic if it had voice chat.

Tbh I've found EUW to be worse than EUNE. On EUNE people are like "fuck you" toxic on EUW there's a lot more bigtory and racism.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 04 2018 13:58 GMT
#131
I haven't noticed it myself. Mostly just people tilting super hard super early. I can't understand anything outside of English so when people start typing I luckily can just ignore it. Otherwise quickly muting helps.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 05 2018 13:01 GMT
#132
Rakan/Xayah lane is so busted in yoloQ almost as free LP as juggernaut Skarner. It's such a fucking stupid design how much stronger they get together. 11 games 11 wins.............
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 05 2018 14:16 GMT
#133
Supposedly there's a bug with their interaction that makes the combo stronger than it should be and will be fixed next patch.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 05 2018 17:23 GMT
#134
On March 05 2018 23:16 Gahlo wrote:
Supposedly there's a bug with their interaction that makes the combo stronger than it should be and will be fixed next patch.

Would make sense. Currently their level 1-3 is mind-numblingly strong.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 17:40:34
March 05 2018 17:40 GMT
#135
On March 05 2018 22:01 Jek wrote:
Rakan/Xayah lane is so busted in yoloQ almost as free LP as juggernaut Skarner. It's such a fucking stupid design how much stronger they get together. 11 games 11 wins.............


I find this interesting as someone with a high winrate on Rakan because I personally feel like I tend to lose more when my adc picks Xayah, because more often than not they don't actually know how to play her and just like muh synergy. It could just be a few bad apples clouding my memory but I've ranted many a time to my friends about how much I fucking hate locking in Rakan before my adc picks and have gone as far as no longer hovering Rakan until after they lock in if I'm thinking about it.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 05 2018 18:11 GMT
#136
On March 06 2018 02:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2018 22:01 Jek wrote:
Rakan/Xayah lane is so busted in yoloQ almost as free LP as juggernaut Skarner. It's such a fucking stupid design how much stronger they get together. 11 games 11 wins.............


I find this interesting as someone with a high winrate on Rakan because I personally feel like I tend to lose more when my adc picks Xayah, because more often than not they don't actually know how to play her and just like muh synergy. It could just be a few bad apples clouding my memory but I've ranted many a time to my friends about how much I fucking hate locking in Rakan before my adc picks and have gone as far as no longer hovering Rakan until after they lock in if I'm thinking about it.

I only go Rakan if they insta-picked Xayah, never pick him before the adc if they spend time to think or I pick first I just go Janna or Alistar.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 05 2018 23:13 GMT
#137
On March 05 2018 22:01 Jek wrote:
Rakan/Xayah lane is so busted in yoloQ almost as free LP as juggernaut Skarner. It's such a fucking stupid design how much stronger they get together. 11 games 11 wins.............


Funny, I was thinking the same thing today. They pretty much cover every single desirably ability a bot lane can have, only real problem is that Xayah has no gap closer. They chain CC so incredibly well, and it's also massively AoE, so the potential to carry the whole game by yourself from bot is far easier than any other duo setup. I really like playing Xayah too, she's not really busted by herself, but her synergy with some supports is just crazy good.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-06 13:15:57
March 06 2018 13:15 GMT
#138
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/03/leagues-next-ultimate-skin-gun-goddess.html
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 06 2018 13:23 GMT
#139
Good to know even in the future MF makes sure the boob window is there.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 06 2018 14:11 GMT
#140
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