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On February 23 2018 21:30 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2018 12:46 iCanada wrote:
I want Volibear to be good so bad, but he is garbage. Zzz...
Just can't clear fast enough at all.
Plz rework. His winrate massively spiked on this patch.
Idk, he might be relatively strong and is certainly buffed this patch, but he's still a very flawed champ.
He's a level 3 jungler that gets there slowly. You need to snowball at level 3 or at least get ahead eniugh that you can contest the other guys jungle at that point or you lose jungle 100% against anyone that doesnt waste half their time.
That's your win condition; pop off before 15 minutes and get unkillable enough that you can run in and start a fight on one thing without dying.
Compared to WW he's totally garbage. Zero reason to lock him in over Warwick, who does the same thing but gets to 3 like 30s faster, is much more adaptable to random shit in game, snowballs just as hard, can keep up with almost every jungler in farm, and has reliable engage, CC, and real defence steroids.
Sad thing is WW himself isn't even an S tier jungler because of how important wraith camp is and how poorly he kill it. And he kills it better than Voli does AND can afford to buy tiamat because he has defensive steroids, a gapcloser, and an easier time escaping.
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On February 23 2018 12:46 iCanada wrote:
I want Volibear to be good so bad, but he is garbage. Zzz...
Just can't clear fast enough at all.
Plz rework.
Looks like Voli is trying to find his place at top lane and doing it pretty good actually
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Yea I played a game of Voli top, the knock back gives you surprising trade power
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Voli always been sleeper op top, btw.
With passive up very few champs in the pool can 1v1 him early. And if he can get a lead very few can contest him at all til like 25 minutes. Need to get out of lane with him or he'll smash you. Ha ha.
It's more obnoxious because like you said, you can't trade with him when he flips you either or you take ridiculous minion damage.
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Ok. I’ve just spent entirely too much time mathing out the new ap items.
And I’ve turned all that analysis to answering one vital and metagame relevant question... what does AP Cho’Gath need to build to one combo an Alistar who is stacking HP and MR items?
The answer: you need sorcery boots, hat, void staff and three other high AP items. If one of those is a fully stacked spellbinder, then you can be flexible with the other two as long as at least one of those is a hextech trigger or torment. If you don’t have a fully stacked Spellbinder then to one combo Alistar you need a hextech item (like proto belt) and a lichbane and you have to hit both procs.
Hopefully I’ll have some more practical thoughts later on.
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Can someone explain just how the remake system work?
We invade get three kills since Veigar, Annie, Cait and Nocturne is a metric fuckton of AoE CC and AoE damage early, they manage to kill me (the spicy support Veigar). Then they remake, all their laners have items and are level 2 so they have at least been within exp range for two waves...
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On February 24 2018 22:56 Jek wrote:
Can someone explain just how the remake system work?
We invade get three kills since Veigar, Annie, Cait and Nocturne is a metric fuckton of AoE CC and AoE damage early, they manage to kill me (the spicy support Veigar). Then they remake, all their laners have items and are level 2 so they have at least been within exp range for two waves...
If one person didn't connect before you guys got those kills then its irrelevant. That's what I'm assuming happened.
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https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/6G472GTv-quinn-changes-coming-soon-strike-from-the-sky
QUINN CHANGES. One of my fav champs. Her rework was complete dogshit btw and I knew from the start that issues were going to be apparent as soon as they failed to address the issue of her passive's clunkiness within her kit, as well as her R just feeling awful to start off with. These are correct moves within her current identity but I will forever miss her counter-AD mid lane assassin playstyle that I honestly wish Riot went all in on. It was my favorite playstyle out of them all. Playing top, you just abused ranged vs melee for the most part which wasn't very fun. Playing bot (haha nice joke). Mid lane, you were pretty screwed vs AP Mages, but vs Talon and Zed and some AP assassins I think she was a very good pick and just a very fun champ to play. Probably never going to get that though 
Slated to be long-term, not released next patch at the very least.
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Not sure if this is old news, but the probability distribution of chests are now public: support.riotgames.com
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On February 24 2018 23:41 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2018 22:56 Jek wrote:
Can someone explain just how the remake system work?
We invade get three kills since Veigar, Annie, Cait and Nocturne is a metric fuckton of AoE CC and AoE damage early, they manage to kill me (the spicy support Veigar). Then they remake, all their laners have items and are level 2 so they have at least been within exp range for two waves... If one person didn't connect before you guys got those kills then its irrelevant. That's what I'm assuming happened.
Ah. That'd make sense since we never saw their mid during the slaughter not even taking a peek around the corner. Usually getting a DC suck, but I guess sometimes you get to be lucky.
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Did I miss the early sale?? Isn't is supposed to be last weekend of the month?
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First thing I read about that quinn post is "more late game power, no lane bullying."
Lane bullying has become a weird term. When was the last time a champion became better at bullying in lane following buffs?
As far as I can tell aside from cases like Nunu being able to jungle again, all the lane bullies have been champions that were released as such and Riot's default stance is "nerf the laning and buff the ratios."
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Lane bullies are bad for the agency of the players they play against. I think thats the buzzword they are using now.
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Quinn was an absolute disgusting monster top lane that just meant if you picked before Quinn and picked something that couldn't handle her then you are removed from the game. You better off just dodging the queue then participating in the game.
I assume that's the dynamic they want to fix. So instead of her being useless pick they can buff her to usefulness without making her instantly remove a player from the game.
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That champ still exists though, just not as Quinn.
You could just as easily play like AD leblanc or Vayne in the same spot. Speaking of which, everyone needs to play as A leblanc in to Nasus at least once in their lives. Fun game.
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I'd say Jayce is a more apt comparision. If you picking AD Lb top or Vayne then I'm rather happy. It's a nice easy win 
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rumble seems reaaaaaaally good this patch
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AD Leblanc is actually pretty legit top in the right matchups.
http://na.op.gg/champion/leblanc/statistics/top
If you take out the 30 AP Leblanc games with a 40% winrate, you can deduce in 30 games AD leblanc has a winrate of like 70%. Leblanc isn't a good AD champion, but she is a champion that exists in the game, unlike the glorified melee minion the Nasus across from her is. Its also much scarier than Jayce in that matchup because you can gank the Jayce, but you can't gank the leblanc. And early game before you get half an item, all of LB's damage is magic so a lot of player will buy a null-magic as their leblanc opponent comes back with a BF sword. I guarantee that lane is 100x worse than anything Quinn could ever do to Nasus.
69% winrate on PTA Leblanc top in 32 games. According to every analysis I can find, thats the same winrate as playing 5v4 for 15 minutes. AD Leblanc is no joke.
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On February 25 2018 05:20 iCanada wrote:
Lane bullies are bad for the agency of the players they play against. I think thats the buzzword they are using now.
Only if their so overly oppressive that they remove the possibility of counterplay.
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Lane bullies and hard counter matchups can be healthy for the game if there is a large web of viable picks that counter each other. But LoL has never reached that point, instead we either have Renekton blowing on everyone, or Gnar. Also if said bullies have real weaknesses, like terrible team fighting.
Vayne top is hilariously hit or miss, really depends on if enemy has a brain and understands he has to camp top.
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