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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 03 2016 18:16 M2 wrote: is shaco looking the scariest from them all? I honestly think the early levels nerf on Q time will make him weaker than now. Of course he looks kind of more viable late game, but this is not something you look for in an assassin. I could be wrong though New shaco is 400% better at pve. And his midgame is gross because with the new out of combat movespeed items he becomes 15cd Rango ult ganking bot. He'll tear up solo queue. Chickens are hard. But he steamrolls Krugs. ST jungles better at kruging due to weird spawn delay. Hard for AoE guys to do it. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Since there's now only the big guy at buffs can he place traps so the duo lane smacks it down and a trap finishes it off? The last box placed so the buff will follow the support/adc down into it when they leave to lane. If it's possible I could see some beyond cheesy toplane ganks. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Relatively speaking it's "less worse" for single-target. I don't know if it's actually better for them? Taking into account the increased bounty? | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
But yeah, due to not hitting as high dps on single target, aoe only jungles take forever on krugs. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 04 2016 02:47 Jek wrote: Oh, that's interesting. I assumed Krugs would be a huge nerf to single target junglers. Since there's now only the big guy at buffs can he place traps so the duo lane smacks it down and a trap finishes it off? The last box placed so the buff will follow the support/adc down into it when they leave to lane. If it's possible I could see some beyond cheesy toplane ganks. I would be weary of doing that. Buffs one hit shaco boxes level 1. They weaker early. Scale base Stats with shacos level. They can't really tank Buffs till later. I think you'd likely end up sans buff with the bottom lane taking. I also think more often than not bot lane would fuck it up. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Edit: The way you guys are making it sound, it seems like the current OP stuff (Olaf, Hecarim, Nidalee, Zac, Graves) will still do just fine, and that maybe Shaco shows up because of how bullshit his stealth will be once he gets a CDR item. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Lee and Elise I think have been buffed overall. Mixed ST / AoE jungles do very well. Shy / kindred is another one but she hates the mastery changes. Kindred in particular will have her game decided by level 3 most games i think. So much free standing XP on the map to start the game with big lulls in time where you can make plays. Like a minute and a half on most junglers. Other than that it is pretty much the same. I hate how late krugs spawn though. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I'll give him a gander tho. I imagine awesome except for krugs. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 05 2016 07:59 Slusher wrote: If st jugglers were buffed Voli might be strong the new keystone makes sense for him too Idk if voli has a place with rylias still being pretty good. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 05 2016 07:59 Slusher wrote: If st jugglers were buffed Voli might be strong the new keystone makes sense for him too I dunno if buffed is the right word. I think if anything solely AoE guys were beefed and the hybrids reign supreme. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On November 05 2016 09:27 cLutZ wrote: Idk if voli has a place with rylias still being pretty good. My favorite part about preseason is going to be Rylai's going to the trash heap. That's going to have such a huge impact and single-handedly solve a ton of problems with the meta right now. | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
Talon looks to have some good tools, single target burst, some decent AOE and the ability to go for strange gank paths. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
On November 07 2016 19:59 General_Winter wrote: Whenever a new champ comes out or is updated, I always wonder if they can jungle. Has anyone on PBE tried to take one of the post update assasins into the jungle? Talon looks to have some good tools, single target burst, some decent AOE and the ability to go for strange gank paths. NB3 played both Rengar and Talon jungle on PBE and they looked all right, but lets not forget that he plays vs silvers/golds there so who knows. I think he also played Fizz, Shaco, but I did not see these games to comment | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
how the hell riot considers this less complicated than what we got now lol | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 07 2016 23:18 kongoline wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNDqHk1Q6Y&feature=youtu.be how the hell riot considers this less complicated than what we got now lol It's pretty obvious that a pair of teams worked on this. one group worked on changing current stuff, and another worked on adding new stuff. But uh. they made gromp/krug spawn later because of bot lanes, but they added a raptor. so mid laners like syndra will just take 5 mini raptors at lvl 1 and head to lane with 140 xp and 50 gold, missing out on a melee minion worth 21 gold and 59 xp. also interesting how they used two different terms for the same thing, to justify the changes. "removing extra complexity" vs "adding decision making" | ||
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