EPTIf it's not one of those two it's not symmetric and so not a common factor of the game. It could work of your were claiming specific match ups but doesn't when you're claiming a generic "tank vs tank" matchup.
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
If it's not one of those two it's not symmetric and so not a common factor of the game. It could work of your were claiming specific match ups but doesn't when you're claiming a generic "tank vs tank" matchup. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
I know, you usually have different dick problems. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
neither one feels good to have | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
pretty good skirmisher tho | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 05 2016 01:42 Slayer91 wrote: its a pain to get stacks on jungle nasus and it hurts your team if you farm a lane because the bonus xp and gold in jungle is pretty huge pretty good skirmisher tho Thats true, im of the stacks dont really matter camp though. on the flip side, your clear speed is monstrous mid game, you can get a severe level advantage. The easily worst part of it is that you dont apply any pressure early but will be 2-3x stronger then their jungler later if your team can handle it and I would only pick this if im an early pick to bait people into countering nasus since most of his counters suck dick as a whole. I will update when I actually playtest it. If anyone finds any other funny new off meta builds that are strong feel free to share. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
not really funny it's just stupidly strong and I never see anyone build it on her | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 05 2016 01:42 Slayer91 wrote: its a pain to get stacks on jungle nasus and it hurts your team if you farm a lane because the bonus xp and gold in jungle is pretty huge pretty good skirmisher tho Will that matter as much when they're removing jungle catchup gold/xp? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 05 2016 01:54 Slayer91 wrote: not sure how that's relevant? Well my assumption was that a large portion of the loss of taking a wave was the xp contributing to reducing the value of jungle camps such that total xp was lower. Without the catchup portion this should not matter as much. Edit: I am a support main so I don't really know the specifics of jungle/lane xp which why was I was asking. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 05 2016 01:53 Goumindong wrote: Will that matter as much when they're removing jungle catchup gold/xp? it's not actually gone it's just tied to the jungle item, the bonus xp on the knife is now stacks per level below the jungle camp. NEWFARM RAZORBEAKSAll Jungle items now grant 30 bonus experience on monster kill for each level higher the monster is than you from the jungle changes section in the patch notes, it is not listed by the item changes for whatever reason. Most of the jungle changes this patch only changed shit to make the reward for non jungles farming it really bad, but for the jungler it seems pretty unchanged to even buffed. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On May 05 2016 02:03 Goumindong wrote: Well my assumption was that a large portion of the loss of taking a wave was the xp contributing to reducing the value of jungle camps such that total xp was lower. Without the catchup portion this should not matter as much. Edit: I am a support main so I don't really know the specifics of jungle/lane xp which why was I was asking. catchup xp is only important for lane swaps you aren't catching up unless you are really far behind i.e because top cant farm and you're sharing xp | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Also it tilts your laners when you tax. | ||
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kongoline
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 05 2016 03:05 Slayer91 wrote: still not that easy to max cdr yo Not too hard on a support* and should be a lot easier now that zhonya and abyssal give CDR. My mage page had 10% on them but I am not sure that it's needed anymore since I expect to get zhonya or abyssal at some point *eye + CDR boots gives you 20%. Aegis item is another 10% and you're 10% short which is easy. Alternately eye + frozen heart + aegis item lets you have 40%. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
we were talking about ap/lvl over cdr/lvl on mid champs i thought? there were days you could wal karound with blue buff cdr/lvl and masteries and have 30% by default LOL | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Is Skarner finally good? | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 05 2016 04:05 Slayer91 wrote: so if you buy all or all but 1 tank items then its easy to max cdr okay we were talking about ap/lvl over cdr/lvl on mid champs i thought? there were days you could wal karound with blue buff cdr/lvl and masteries and have 30% by default LOL Zhonya morello and abyssal is 40%. Those aren't tank items even if they're no longer top tier "kill now" items. I was discussing support items because well I know the paths better and it's the other place you tend to run mage-centric runes. | ||
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