[Patch 6.9] Midseason General Discussion - Page 27

On May 17 2016 08:48 kongoline wrote:
people whine about tank meta when only decent tank jungler is gragas and most of the time we see 4+ adc per game, yes toplaners pick tanks but when u have a squishy jungler its a must pick if u ever want to team fight

On May 17 2016 08:48 kongoline wrote:
people whine about tank meta when only decent tank jungler is gragas and most of the time we see 4+ adc per game, yes toplaners pick tanks but when u have a squishy jungler tank top is a must pick if u ever want to team fight

On May 17 2016 09:29 Slayer91 wrote:
I generally agree with riots decisions but I thought devourer was a stupid idea from the start and they had to break so many champions just to keep it balanced.
I think they wildly overestimated how hard it is to farm sated without giving up too much on ganks and underestimated how many auto attacks people can get off on junglers.

Like they thought feral flare was too strong but if you went the ward item+devourer its even better for everyone?

I also think frozen heart was over nerfed and wits end is far too expensive for no reason at all.
Wit's end would actually be really good to buy against tanks rushing frozen heart (even though it slows attack speed) because the magic damage penetrates through that armour and reduces their damage from sunfire+abilities with the magic resist drain.
Wits should be like a 2-2.2kish item and power scaled down accordingly, being too expensive just makes it a niche for niche champs like warwick and kayle or something

FH and gauntlet give tanks the opportunity to use their abilities and be a bit more aggressive instead of just getting randuins and being more of a damage soak but what they did with the massive buffs to gauntlet and nerfs to fh left everyone with no real choice.
I suppose they didn't like maokais with sunfire/FH making adcs have a shitty time but that's what the tanks are supposed to do.

On May 17 2016 16:10 cLutZ wrote:
I think it gives Trundle a more linear (aka riot sanctioned) power curve to have the ult be QSS-able. Basically, once the enemy top decides that the amount of stats being stolen exceeds 1300 gold in value, they build QSS thus removing Trundle's stat advantage, but also gimping their own lategame. Without that interaction he can't really have a Riot-approved power curve as a toplane. They would have to balance him around enemies taking cleanse (unlikely), or he would be a super-lategame champ that crushes both splitpushing and teamfights after X (probably 3) items. Which is what they are consistently moving away from.

They also could make him a pure support, but that would be boring, to me.

On May 17 2016 16:38 Amui wrote: you don't have to build a suboptimal item on a tank just so you don't instadie while not being able to kill a ludicrously tanky trundle.

On May 17 2016 10:51 iCanada wrote:


There are a fuck ton of Tank Junglers wtf.

In Soloqueue Nunu, Zac, Sejuani, Volibear, Amumu, Skarner, Maokai, Ekko, Gragas, Rammus, Sion, Vi and Reksai are all viable.

... And those are only the tank junglers with winrates higher than 51%; You could argue that Olaf, J4, Shyvana, Udyr, Warwick and Nautlilus are playable.

I have a hunch that if your comp was right Cho, Nasus, Mundo, Yorick, and Shen are probably playable as well.

You literally could ban out 6 of them, and have both top laners and mid laners pick tanks and still have tank junglers with over 51% winrate available for your picking.



A large part of the reason why Maokais with Sunfire / FH make ADCs have such a shitty time in the first place is because the ADC's own tanks down peel the things off.

ADC's always bitch that tanks can 1v1 them, but like... I can't remember the last time as a tank I just had the liberty to 1v1 an ADC that wasn't retardedly chasing red dots on their minimap.

I agree on Wits End. It really does need to cost like 2k cold again. I remember when it used to cost like 1600 or 1700 gold.