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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 21:40:16
May 03 2016 21:36 GMT
#41
I've tried out skarner and fed a lot I'm not sure if it's just my playstyle being terrible for skarner (he's team reliant) or skarner being a little meh once people get QSS.

he relies a lot on flash+R to close gaps and if someone has QSS it stops that dead too.

Horse has high winrates in korea with cinderhulk-->trinity path might be a good alternative for a damaging jungler. Tried it out seems really strong.
aka Teutonica
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 21:43:29
May 03 2016 21:42 GMT
#42
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=arghilost

I play some skarner, one of my weaker winrates. I cant remember if its because of the champ or i just get unlucky teams with him so not sure. He's hella fun though.

And yea youre right I see a lot of hecarim in master/challenger games, I think he is really strong atm too but not my style. You gotta gank like every minute with him.
I come in for the scraps
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 03 2016 21:44 GMT
#43
Its too bad like 60% of the investment into Protobelt is AP, otherwise Skarner would love it.

Not sure how to really play Skarner myself. Never really seen/tried it.

http://www.op.gg/champion/skarner/statistics/jungle

Seems like Skarner really likes Steraks, and I imagine new RG on him is probably core.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 03 2016 21:46 GMT
#44
Skarner isn't really a focus target, not sure why you'd prioritise steraks on him. He scales well with AD, sheen, tank stats and any sticking power. Burst survivability isn't that great on him although it scales well with sheen.
aka Teutonica
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 21:49:37
May 03 2016 21:48 GMT
#45
steraks is just for the monster sheen procs to turn duels around i guess, he is very good at delaying death with his spammable shield and turning the tables.

I don't really ever build it though, there are better items in my opinion since it got nerfed so many times

love triforce/banshee on him, essential imo.

the amount of champs that only have one defense mechanism is quite high. Your veil eats it and its lights out for them.

Im liking the price lower for next patch, will be a nice mid game purchase for catches
I come in for the scraps
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 21:51:32
May 03 2016 21:49 GMT
#46
I just say Steraks because thats his highest winrate item in Korea. Go to items on op.gg and sort by winrate.

It is near the top on NA and EUW too. Maybe its so that he doesn't get blown up if at the end of the game he just herpderp runs at teams? I dunno, just guessing.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 22:33:52
May 03 2016 22:33 GMT
#47
On May 04 2016 06:49 iCanada wrote:
I just say Steraks because thats his highest winrate item in Korea. Go to items on op.gg and sort by winrate.

It is near the top on NA and EUW too. Maybe its so that he doesn't get blown up if at the end of the game he just herpderp runs at teams? I dunno, just guessing.

This is a super dangerous line of reasoning to go down, because by the same logic Mejai's is statistically the strongest item on every single AP champ.

For example, if only 6-item Skarners are building Sterak's, then its winrate is going to be a lot higher than an item that every single Skarner, even a losing one, is able to build (i.e., Cinderhulk or Warrior).
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 03 2016 22:42 GMT
#48
On May 04 2016 07:33 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 06:49 iCanada wrote:
I just say Steraks because thats his highest winrate item in Korea. Go to items on op.gg and sort by winrate.

It is near the top on NA and EUW too. Maybe its so that he doesn't get blown up if at the end of the game he just herpderp runs at teams? I dunno, just guessing.

This is a super dangerous line of reasoning to go down, because by the same logic Mejai's is statistically the strongest item on every single AP champ.

For example, if only 6-item Skarners are building Sterak's, then its winrate is going to be a lot higher than an item that every single Skarner, even a losing one, is able to build (i.e., Cinderhulk or Warrior).


Absolutely.

But its also in 2 of the top two 3 item core winrates as well;

Cinderhulk > Triforce > Steraks
Cinderhulk > Icebound > Spirit Visage
Cinderhulk > Icebound > Steraks

All 3 have an over 70% winrate. That being said, I think the sample sizes a little too low. Seems like he has pretty high build diversity in general. Both Warrior and Cinderhulk seem to be viable.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 02:58:58
May 03 2016 22:52 GMT
#49
what if people only buy sterak when they are already in advantageous position to carry harder instead of tanky items they would rather buy in an even game
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 00:07:59
May 04 2016 00:05 GMT
#50
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4hpif4/patch_69_timing/

As many of you know, tomorrow will be the day of the finals of EU CS qualifier and the 3rd place match which decides the teams that go to participate in challenger series. Riot released patch 6.9 and the players will have to adapt to the patch in 1 day. Something is clearly wrong here.

Klaj's tweet:https://twitter.com/Klajbajk/status/727574566382489601


this is hilarious
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 04 2016 02:26 GMT
#51
New champ seems interesting. Kind of a generic kit, but the animations and theme is all very cool. Geomancy makes for the coolest mages thematically imoimo
It's your boy Guzma!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 04 2016 03:56 GMT
#52
On May 04 2016 09:05 kongoline wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4hpif4/patch_69_timing/

Show nested quote +
As many of you know, tomorrow will be the day of the finals of EU CS qualifier and the 3rd place match which decides the teams that go to participate in challenger series. Riot released patch 6.9 and the players will have to adapt to the patch in 1 day. Something is clearly wrong here.

Klaj's tweet:https://twitter.com/Klajbajk/status/727574566382489601


this is hilarious

#competitiveintegrity

Seriously though, why couldn't they just delay it by a day or two.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 04 2016 04:09 GMT
#53
Man.

That tournament is goiing to be a clusterfuck.

LOL.

Does it make me a troll that this makes me want to watch it more than before?
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 04:56:28
May 04 2016 04:54 GMT
#54
On May 04 2016 07:42 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 07:33 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On May 04 2016 06:49 iCanada wrote:
I just say Steraks because thats his highest winrate item in Korea. Go to items on op.gg and sort by winrate.

It is near the top on NA and EUW too. Maybe its so that he doesn't get blown up if at the end of the game he just herpderp runs at teams? I dunno, just guessing.

This is a super dangerous line of reasoning to go down, because by the same logic Mejai's is statistically the strongest item on every single AP champ.

For example, if only 6-item Skarners are building Sterak's, then its winrate is going to be a lot higher than an item that every single Skarner, even a losing one, is able to build (i.e., Cinderhulk or Warrior).


Absolutely.

But its also in 2 of the top two 3 item core winrates as well;

Cinderhulk > Triforce > Steraks
Cinderhulk > Icebound > Spirit Visage
Cinderhulk > Icebound > Steraks

All 3 have an over 70% winrate. That being said, I think the sample sizes a little too low. Seems like he has pretty high build diversity in general. Both Warrior and Cinderhulk seem to be viable.

It's a poor justification on junglers. Cinder+triforce alone is ~7k gold including boots2, which is past the point where a lot of games are decided.

My average game time for the last 20 is something like 26 minutes, with junglers generally having 9-12k gold on winning team, and 7-10k on the losing team. The losing games you wouldn't even be able to afford the items to show up on those statistics.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 05:20:04
May 04 2016 05:15 GMT
#55
got a post sniped by thread change like 5 min after but just in case the info is relevant to you I'm pretty sure there is a typo in case any of you are looking forward to playing Swain

it lists his E as going UP to 1.0 ratio, while it is a 1.0 ratio on live so I think it got typed in backwards because it was nerfed on the pbe, high probability it's actually going to be .8 when it goes live tomorrow. Considering the game patches every 2 weeks I feel like Riot went a little hard on compensatory nerfs on a couple of the updates. "the dream" for Swain has always been what if I didn't have to max E, but the cost was pretty high. His level 1 auto trades should be funny though.
Carrilord has arrived.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 04 2016 07:12 GMT
#56
Mages are going to be so fun to play in this patch
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 09:48:05
May 04 2016 09:46 GMT
#57
On May 04 2016 16:12 MooMooMugi wrote:
Mages are going to be so fun to play in this patch

Except the new one doesn't seem interesting. Geomancer is a cool concept, but this one doesn't seem interesting.

Looking forward to testing out Brand and Zyra the most. Like the explosion on Brand and love the extra plants. I'm worried about my beloved Syndra though. I don't like the increased sphere time on paper, but we'll see.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 11:54:17
May 04 2016 11:32 GMT
#58
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.

Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 12:22:04
May 04 2016 12:21 GMT
#59
New Chalice on Heimerdinger seems pretty dank. HP regen to boost his ridiculous base regen and mana regen when he needs it. Almost looks like the value of a normal full item for the mere cost of 900g definitely going to try a Chalice into banner+hourglass in which ever order makes the most sense.

First impression of the new dragons = I hate it. Feels so RNG based. :/
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8937 Posts
May 04 2016 13:13 GMT
#60
ok i played cassi as soon as the patch came out. can confirm she is fucking shit now. absolutely cannot play cassi like you used to at all even if youre going for max cdr. it takes you forever to get 40% and youre glass cannon anyway. cassi seems more of a utility cc mid now rather than a gangster 1v1 punch on master
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