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On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening.
solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped.
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idk whenever champion like malph,mao,naut dies 1v1 in lane unless you are playing something cheesy like ignite renek i feel they misplayed horribly and it should never happen
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On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped.
I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq.
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Anyone attempt in what to buy/not to buy and who to play/not to play anymore TL;dr patch rundown ?!
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On May 04 2016 23:24 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped. I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq.
I dont know what to tell you, you're welcome to lane against me and we can test it out. It's just going to be no you're wrong!! for 20 pages because all we have is experience.
although from what I gathered from teut EUW is very different from NA when people are playing stuff like full AP ekko top and quinn. We just dont see snowbally champs like that played top.
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What's the point in laning against you? If you know what's going on and you're "testing" for solokills anyway it makes things moot (on top of knowing there's no jungler involved).
The point was that solokills still happen, not that they don't happen to you.
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On May 04 2016 23:12 kongoline wrote:
idk whenever champion like malph,mao,naut dies 1v1 in lane unless you are playing something cheesy like ignite renek i feel they misplayed horribly and it should never happen
Yeah, you have to sell out pretty hard to die 1v1 and often have enough time to realize things are going south and back out.
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New hextech items? Yes or No ?
What to ban in dynamic queue now? Damn, getting through this whole patch :<
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On May 04 2016 23:52 Alaric wrote:
What's the point in laning against you? If you know what's going on and you're "testing" for solokills anyway it makes things moot (on top of knowing there's no jungler involved).
The point was that solokills still happen, not that they don't happen to you.
Well my argument is that only idiots die to solo kills, I assume they are saying they transcend that and can kill anyone. and obviously I would actually try to out cs them not just sit at tower.
Jungler doesnt matter because we arent talking about gank kills, those happen literally every game because of dynamic queue
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On May 04 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 23:24 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped. I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq. I dont know what to tell you, you're welcome to lane against me and we can test it out. It's just going to be no you're wrong!! for 20 pages because all we have is experience. although from what I gathered from teut EUW is very different from NA when people are playing stuff like full AP ekko top and quinn. We just dont see snowbally champs like that played top.
Although you might not die, the average person in a Go4LoL sometimes will in my experience.
1v1'ing you seems like good practice, so if you have a EUW account you're on (as soon as I can get my client working again) but it doesn't seem too relevant to anything discussed here.
Also, all of my experience is from 1-2 years back, with different metas etc, so it might very well be that currently people aren't dying as much, but that's more a result of the meta than organized play.
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On May 05 2016 00:12 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 23:24 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped. I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq. I dont know what to tell you, you're welcome to lane against me and we can test it out. It's just going to be no you're wrong!! for 20 pages because all we have is experience. although from what I gathered from teut EUW is very different from NA when people are playing stuff like full AP ekko top and quinn. We just dont see snowbally champs like that played top. Although you might not die, the average person in a Go4LoL sometimes will in my experience. 1v1'ing you seems like good practice, so if you have a EUW account you're on (as soon as I can get my client working again) but it doesn't seem too relevant to anything discussed here. Also, all of my experience is from 1-2 years back, with different metas etc, so it might very well be that currently people aren't dying as much, but that's more a result of the meta than organized play.
Oh I see. it is extremely different now so it is a big cause of the meta. There is a mastery that now gives you 2.5% of your health back in magic damage that you can repeatedly use, and you start with an item called corruption potion that is the master of attrition and accomplsihing nothing. Also everyone takes TP 100% of the time and rushes bami's a component of sunfire cape that makes it so most tanks instaclear the wave, there is no real fighting.
the meta of top is pretty lolz
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On May 05 2016 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 00:12 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 23:24 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped. I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq. I dont know what to tell you, you're welcome to lane against me and we can test it out. It's just going to be no you're wrong!! for 20 pages because all we have is experience. although from what I gathered from teut EUW is very different from NA when people are playing stuff like full AP ekko top and quinn. We just dont see snowbally champs like that played top. Although you might not die, the average person in a Go4LoL sometimes will in my experience. 1v1'ing you seems like good practice, so if you have a EUW account you're on (as soon as I can get my client working again) but it doesn't seem too relevant to anything discussed here. Also, all of my experience is from 1-2 years back, with different metas etc, so it might very well be that currently people aren't dying as much, but that's more a result of the meta than organized play. Oh I see. it is extremely different now so it is a big cause of the meta. There is a mastery that now gives you 2.5% of your health back in magic damage that you can repeatedly use, and you start with an item called corruption potion that is the master of attrition and accomplsihing nothing. Also everyone takes TP 100% of the time and rushes bami's a component of sunfire cape that makes it so most tanks instaclear the wave, there is no real fighting. the meta of top is pretty lolz
no dude I still play the game ......
but even in this meta people die all the time in soloq, I'm just saying I don't have first hand tournament experience in this meta
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Oh ok. I can agree with you there, when me and my duo dont play top there is a lot of dying there but rarely due to solo kills.
The solo kills I do see are like lvl 1-2 dying to darius/trundle or something.
Mostly jungle gank kills tbh,
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On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped.
My experience is (once you get past the terribad teams) there's lots less kills altogether unless both sides are happy to teamfight.
I'd say the number of early kills in general goes down more than specifically solo kills
although more advanced plays like exploiting passive laning with 4 man dives happens a lot more
I think we won one game in Go4Lol where they didn't fight us once
literlaly got all towers and nexus with like 4 kills was so stupid lol
On May 04 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 23:24 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped. I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq. I dont know what to tell you, you're welcome to lane against me and we can test it out. It's just going to be no you're wrong!! for 20 pages because all we have is experience. although from what I gathered from teut EUW is very different from NA when people are playing stuff like full AP ekko top and quinn. We just dont see snowbally champs like that played top.
quinn and ap ekko aren't common, it's usually tank top, it just happens that in my recent games I had those
I normally stomp tank ekkos I've never seen it as scary because I guess he's bad against other tanks or something
On May 05 2016 00:19 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 05 2016 00:12 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 23:24 Fildun wrote:On May 04 2016 22:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2016 20:32 Fildun wrote:
@Teut/VA
When Mao + other tanks were popular a year/1.5 year ago I was getting solokills as Mao in 80% of my lanes. (D4/D5 ELO)
Until you get to masters people will die to literally everything and you can snowball any champion you want.
Last time I played Malph I went 8/1/0 in the first 15 minutes, just from killing my lane opponent and the enemy jungler. Same goes for Garen vs Trundle, which should be a simple tank war.
Saying you can't kill anybody in tank vs tank is just simply not true.
Edit: Also, could someone help me out here. My League patcher crashes every single time it gets to stage 2/2 when patching. I've tried repairing, reinstalling, etc. but it still keeps happening. solo queue is way different though as I stated. Play some amateur tournaments and I think you'll find its hard to come across 1v1 kills even when you dont get lane swapped. I've played about 20-25 Go4LoLs and 8-10 other tournaments and in all of them solokills were just as common as in soloq. I dont know what to tell you, you're welcome to lane against me and we can test it out. It's just going to be no you're wrong!! for 20 pages because all we have is experience. although from what I gathered from teut EUW is very different from NA when people are playing stuff like full AP ekko top and quinn. We just dont see snowbally champs like that played top. Although you might not die, the average person in a Go4LoL sometimes will in my experience. 1v1'ing you seems like good practice, so if you have a EUW account you're on (as soon as I can get my client working again) but it doesn't seem too relevant to anything discussed here. Also, all of my experience is from 1-2 years back, with different metas etc, so it might very well be that currently people aren't dying as much, but that's more a result of the meta than organized play. Oh I see. it is extremely different now so it is a big cause of the meta. There is a mastery that now gives you 2.5% of your health back in magic damage that you can repeatedly use, and you start with an item called corruption potion that is the master of attrition and accomplsihing nothing. Also everyone takes TP 100% of the time and rushes bami's a component of sunfire cape that makes it so most tanks instaclear the wave, there is no real fighting. the meta of top is pretty lolz no dude I still play the game ......but even in this meta people die all the time in soloq, I'm just saying I don't have first hand tournament experience in this meta
coulda fooled me.
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lol, true
damn client keeps crashing even after reinstalling fucking windows
unlucky
although to be fair, playing is a big word for what I was doing
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it's not any bigger than feeding i don't see the problem
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On May 05 2016 00:10 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 23:52 Alaric wrote:
What's the point in laning against you? If you know what's going on and you're "testing" for solokills anyway it makes things moot (on top of knowing there's no jungler involved).
The point was that solokills still happen, not that they don't happen to you. Well my argument is that only idiots die to solo kills, I assume they are saying they transcend that and can kill anyone. and obviously I would actually try to out cs them not just sit at tower. Jungler doesnt matter because we arent talking about gank kills, those happen literally every game because of dynamic queue
Your argument relies on the fact that people aren't idiots. Seems clunky at best to me. 
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theres a dick joke in there somewhere but I cant find it
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On May 05 2016 01:12 Fildun wrote:
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theres a dick joke in there somewhere but I cant find it
it's funny I never seem to have that problem
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With tank potatos the most solo kills experiences I have are both potatos getting so bored that they brawl it out to 5%hp and eventually someone either misplays/miscalculates and dies even if theoretically no one should if they chose not to fight that long in the first place.
I have both given up and gained several kills because of this. Its super dumb but shit gets boring in soloq. Def would not play like that in a tourny setting tho
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