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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 20:21:43
July 15 2015 20:15 GMT
#541
On July 16 2015 03:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 22:36 Gahlo wrote:
On July 15 2015 22:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 15 2015 22:22 Seuss wrote:
As a software engineer I haven't the faintest idea how that kind of bug could happen. It's practically awe-inspiring.


Every time something like this comes up I have that feeling.

"How could those two things POSSIBLY be related?"

It makes me want to look at Riot's code base.

Or maybe not because it'll probably have a similar effect as the Ark of the Covenant.

For those too young for the reference.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Nobody is too young to reference that, man. Everybody's seen Indiana Jones >.>

On a different note, I've been spamming Miss Fortune to find that she's actually a really fun champion. A lot of people tell me to Max Q first, but Max E also seems to be pretty strong; is one better than the other?


No, just different. Q tends to have better total fight damage and burst; but E will hold people in fights longer. You need between 1.8 to 2 Q's per full charge E in order for leveling Q to be better than leveling E. But full charge E's are less likely even if you rank it up, and Q's CD reduction is more potent as you do so. And the auto reset impure shots stacking becomes more potent. But E still holds people in fights longer.

I think the last time we had this discussion the consensus was that Q was better against AD's/supports that had dashes and that E was better against AD's/supports that didn't have dashes.

The reasoning is simple; against someone who can dash out of E, you get almost nothing for it, except a zone. If you can hit them with a Q (or more often with Q's due to the CD reduction) then Q is better. If you can hold them in the fight with E however, then E can be used both to zone, and to chase, as well as generally doing more damage relative to risk exposure

Additionally E has much better Ult synergy. Letting you hold champions that don't have a dash or flash in your ult much easier [65% vs 25% slow is HUGE for this]. So getting E to max before you're really team fighting is very powerful.

Compare the level 6 fight with 1 rank in E vs 3 ranks in E. A champion slowed rank 1 covers 36% more ground than a champion slowed rank 3 in the same amount of time. Which means that if a champion could, under rank 1 e, leave your ult [or e radius] within 1.49 seconds or less, then rank 3 E will increase the damage of your ult by potentially more than 36% [due to impure shots stacking MF's ult backloads a lot of the damage]

Of course, always level E or Q second. Consider that a champion under rank 1 E moves about 2.14 times faster than a champion under rank 5 E and its really easy to see how important that slow becomes to keeping people in your ult, providing choke points in zone etc in mid game team fights.

edit: E is also potentially better if you're losing, since you can wave clear with it. Potentially better if you're winning hard against just because of various chase/zone potential.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 21:59:45
July 15 2015 21:51 GMT
#542
uh not sure if it's a bug but there is a riven in my game that's teleporting everywhere, not with the summoner i mean she literally just randomly appears all over the map :|

wait apparently she's just getting sent back to fountain randomly what is going on

is this some new hack i've never heard of cause this is hilarious
Bronze player stuck in platinum
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#543


Literally top of reddit.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 22:02:45
July 15 2015 22:02 GMT
#544
damn is it riven only? I don't go on the league subreddit
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 15 2015 23:06 GMT
#545
So Riven can even cancel her recall animation.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 16 2015 00:04 GMT
#546
Just played Karma runeglaive for the fun (and the IP) in coop. The runeglaive AoE actually makes you kill caster minions with just Q+auto, it looks really comfortable to lane with... Don't think it's very good anyway but interesting.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 16 2015 00:12 GMT
#547
On July 16 2015 08:06 Jek wrote:
So Riven can even cancel her recall animation.

it appears to be a much larger bug that several if not most characters can do
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 16 2015 00:34 GMT
#548
How is this cancelling done?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 16 2015 00:36 GMT
#549
On July 16 2015 07:00 AlterKot wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKt_RqIODDE

Literally top of reddit.


god forbid people don't read reddit
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 16 2015 00:39 GMT
#550
On July 16 2015 09:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:00 AlterKot wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKt_RqIODDE

Literally top of reddit.


god forbid people don't read reddit

"Geee I saw this weird bug, I wonder if it's known, maybe I should take a quick glance at the biggest league community on internet?"
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 16 2015 00:45 GMT
#551
Reminds me of the cleanse TP glitch that made your TP instantaneous long time ago
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 00:57:13
July 16 2015 00:56 GMT
#552
pretty cool music
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
July 16 2015 01:09 GMT
#553
On July 16 2015 09:12 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:06 Jek wrote:
So Riven can even cancel her recall animation.

it appears to be a much larger bug that several if not most characters can do


this game's engine is literally coming apart at the seams

)))____◎◎◎◎█████
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 16 2015 01:20 GMT
#554
Couldn't find a video for alistar recall bug so made one. Pretty cool.

http://streamable.com/gond
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 16 2015 01:50 GMT
#555
Ranked is disabled does anyone want to play some normals?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 16 2015 02:01 GMT
#556
Oh Suff if you still don't know how the bug works, basically if you press recall and a channellable ability (ex. Alistar heal) you enter some weird bugged state. If then you press an autoattack, it will play the animation and sound, but won't actually deal damage. If you cancel that auto with certain abilities (Riven's Q, Ali's QW) you blink to fountain and perform the ability there.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 16 2015 03:04 GMT
#557
On July 16 2015 11:01 AlterKot wrote:
Oh Suff if you still don't know how the bug works, basically if you press recall and a channellable ability (ex. Alistar heal) you enter some weird bugged state. If then you press an autoattack, it will play the animation and sound, but won't actually deal damage. If you cancel that auto with certain abilities (Riven's Q, Ali's QW) you blink to fountain and perform the ability there.


Ugh I tried pretty hard but could not replicate it. Maybe it needs non-East coast ping?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 16 2015 03:15 GMT
#558
--- Nuked ---
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 16 2015 03:19 GMT
#559
LOL.

Dem Skarner Ganks.

Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 16 2015 03:23 GMT
#560
On July 16 2015 09:56 kongoline wrote:
pretty cool music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYLZ5Q0CGk


This is so reminding me of the Black Sails theme and I love it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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