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On June 15 2015 22:38 Alaric wrote:
Because lifesteal quints were nerfed from 2% to 1.5%, lifesteal on dblade is back, more sustain when popular supports are mostly tanky dudes with Relic Shield, and it helps last hitting and early damage too (I think when it started the popular marksmen were Graves, Lucian and Corki, all with shit base AS).
Not to mention AS quints got buffed too, I think.
On June 16 2015 06:15 Kinie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:57 Celial wrote:
What does he say at the end? "I need to get a ???" I think he says, "I need to get a job?" I dunno, it sounded weird to me too at that part.
I think he said M9, which I'm guessing is the phone model that Lustboy had("the new one.")
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man guess nidalee jungle is one of those champions i will be able to play, its like different type of champion in theory shes supposed to be similar to khazix,shaco cuz shes bursty,squishy high pressure early but for the love of me i cant play her past early game i jsut die instantly after i go in in cougar form:/
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On June 16 2015 10:15 Goumindong wrote:
I feel like it must account for position/champion. Otherwise there is no way in hell my 7 CS bard performance rates as "Gold Level CS"
I had Gold performance on a support game where I had 0 cs, soooo... 
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Scip, is it too late to jump on the Rammus hypetrain? Otherwise I'm gonna ride it to Challenger (soon tm).
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On June 16 2015 13:24 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 12:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
they cant make a jungle item without breaking the meta completely. Picks like diana jungle and ekko jungle are already borderline good in solo q, this is going to push it over the top. fizz is obviously going to make a comeback too. Im interested to see how it fares on warwick since devourer is so garbage. i can't speak about ekko in particular cause i haven't played against jungle ekko yet. but in diana's case she is extremely susceptible to counter jungling. if you can steal one of her buffs on the first clear or better then she falls behind pretty quickly
All I know is Runeglaive is Cinderhulk-level, and as a result we will be seeing AP Jungle Assassins again if not Smite on AP Assassins in lane.
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Runeglaives is going to make a lot junglers AP lol. At its current state Skarner will become an AP jungler.
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Anybody know if activating RG knocks Wukong out of stealth?
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On June 16 2015 20:43 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 13:24 Frolossus wrote:On June 16 2015 12:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
they cant make a jungle item without breaking the meta completely. Picks like diana jungle and ekko jungle are already borderline good in solo q, this is going to push it over the top. fizz is obviously going to make a comeback too. Im interested to see how it fares on warwick since devourer is so garbage. i can't speak about ekko in particular cause i haven't played against jungle ekko yet. but in diana's case she is extremely susceptible to counter jungling. if you can steal one of her buffs on the first clear or better then she falls behind pretty quickly All I know is Runeglaive is Cinderhulk-level, and as a result we will be seeing AP Jungle Assassins again if not Smite on AP Assassins in lane.
i was thinking that being able to buy a first item Sheen would be really nice to give lane smite Fizz some early game all-in/snowball potential in solo queue that he lacks with the current Cinderhulk builds that are common in competitive play.
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Shouldn't, Flashing doesn't.
I don't know about interaction from damage (Ignite) or debuffs (Exhaust, Randuin's) do, I posit at least damage does (homework: Wukong with Thornmail stealths while an autoattack projectile flies toward him).
I don't know what Zhonya's does (homework: Twitch's stealthed swag!).
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On June 16 2015 23:20 Alaric wrote:
I don't know what Zhonya's does (homework: Twitch's stealthed swag!).
Did you know? Twitch can enter stealth immediately if he activates Zhonya's Hourglass!
#LoadingScreenTips
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Because it's during the fadeaway, he can also recall stealthed this way.
However, I assume this means that he exists Zhonya's stealthed. But does he become stealthed too during the stasis (gold statue disappears!) or does he stay "normal" and only instantly receive stealth when Zhonya's effect ends?
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On June 16 2015 23:37 Alaric wrote:
Because it's during the fadeaway, he can also recall stealthed this way.
However, I assume this means that he exists Zhonya's stealthed. But does he become stealthed too during the stasis (gold statue disappears!) or does he stay "normal" and only instantly receive stealth when Zhonya's effect ends?
I have no idea. It is literally a loading screen tip. I think it is worded like "if he uses zhonyas immediately after activation", so with the 2 second zhonyas and the stealth delay... I guess he just exists zhonyas stealthed.
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ok so i havent jungled at all since i took a break from this game, so the last time i jungled was last season. can someone explain which junglers use which jungle items? seems most jungles use the chilling smite one? also, does cinderhulk = ancient golem and warrior = lizard elder and magus = the AP one?
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Honestly, it's pretty much "go Cinderhulk on everyone no matter what" but some of the fight-happy aggro junglers can get away with Warrior (like Lee, Kha). No one REALLY does the AP one, unless you want to jungle Fiddle.
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On June 17 2015 00:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Honestly, it's pretty much "go Cinderhulk on everyone no matter what" but some of the fight-happy aggro junglers can get away with Warrior (like Lee, Kha). No one REALLY does the AP one, unless you want to jungle Fiddle.
It's not even worth getting on fiddle until after zhonya's. Pretty much you get machete upgrade and rush straight to zhonya's. At that point you can choose to go magus upgrade or work on another ap item. Fiddle doesn't benefit that greatly from 20% cdr.
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That's the critical problem with Magus. 80 AP and 20% CDR for 1400g is incredibly efficient, but it's still nothing more than a stat stick. You really want more oomph for your 1 and 2 item timings, and pure stats in anything less than excess typically isn't enough.
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On June 17 2015 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 00:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Honestly, it's pretty much "go Cinderhulk on everyone no matter what" but some of the fight-happy aggro junglers can get away with Warrior (like Lee, Kha). No one REALLY does the AP one, unless you want to jungle Fiddle. It's not even worth getting on fiddle until after zhonya's. Pretty much you get machete upgrade and rush straight to zhonya's. At that point you can choose to go magus upgrade or work on another ap item. Fiddle doesn't benefit that greatly from 20% cdr.
Fid benefits hugely from CDR midgame, E is stupid good.
But he's still kinda broken AFAIK, I played him recently and his W still prematurely cancels a lot of the time, though random direction on Q makes it better than when they ran straight away (that was hilariously counterproductive). Need further testing to figure out exactly what's going on.
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On June 16 2015 14:13 kongoline wrote:
man guess nidalee jungle is one of those champions i will be able to play, its like different type of champion in theory shes supposed to be similar to khazix,shaco cuz shes bursty,squishy high pressure early but for the love of me i cant play her past early game i jsut die instantly after i go in in cougar form:/
Play it against me, I think I'm under 20% against jungle Nidalees (I never play jungle and rarely feed her but somehow she always gets huge).
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On June 16 2015 22:46 Gahlo wrote:
Anybody know if activating RG knocks Wukong out of stealth?
It wouldn't reveal you in a bush it shouldn't reveal you out of stealth
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On June 17 2015 00:50 Seuss wrote:
That's the critical problem with Magus. 80 AP and 20% CDR for 1400g is incredibly efficient, but it's still nothing more than a stat stick. You really want more oomph for your 1 and 2 item timings, and pure stats in anything less than excess typically isn't enough.
Morello is mostly a stat stick with these ones though (albeit the mp5 is a big part of its choice).
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