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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
June 02 2015 11:45 GMT
#401
Well Jayce is just so out of meta right now. Too much tanks for his poke to really useful. Better poke champions atm are Kog'Maw, Xerath?, and Varus.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 12:31:01
June 02 2015 12:30 GMT
#402
Maybe Ekko should just have an X second cooldown between using spells. That would prevent him from being able to straight combo someone but preserve his ratios and damage over a more extended fight.

Kog good for poke, Xerath not really cuz too immobile, Varus not sure
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 15:42:30
June 02 2015 13:49 GMT
#403
I wouldn't peg Xerath's inferior poke simply due to mobility, there's a number of factors in play. Compared to Kog'maw his poke has less range and doesn't have consistent follow up. Moreover, Xerath doesn't have a large, persistent area slow for defense. That he has to slow himself down is just the last straw.

Varus has similar advantages over Xerath, with the added benefit that his Q scales hard (160% of AD when fully charged).
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 02 2015 14:22 GMT
#404
ap poke>ad poke
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
June 02 2015 14:32 GMT
#405
On June 02 2015 23:22 kongoline wrote:
ap poke>ad poke


The words you are looking for are "ludens echo".
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 02 2015 14:36 GMT
#406
On June 02 2015 23:32 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:22 kongoline wrote:
ap poke>ad poke


The words you are looking for are "ludens echo".

but LS told me that its a trash item.
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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 02 2015 14:40 GMT
#407
Isn't Luden's getting nerfed to oblivion (unless you're playing a champion with bad ap ratios who builds mpen/spellblade)?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
June 02 2015 14:54 GMT
#408
It'll be just as good as it is now for poke. 5% AP ratio is almost nothing and the charge nerf is irrelevant to how good it is for Kog. It's more of a sustained damage nerf.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
June 02 2015 14:56 GMT
#409
On June 02 2015 23:40 AlterKot wrote:
Isn't Luden's getting nerfed to oblivion (unless you're playing a champion with bad ap ratios who builds mpen/spellblade)?

That's the joke. Ketara was advocating it in the Lux thread and how he thought LS' judgement of it in his videos was wrong. LS played the "google myself and get into an argument with people" nonsense he always does and spouting credentials.

Fast forward to now and the item is ridiculous and built on almost everybody.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 02 2015 15:01 GMT
#410
Well I know how it is now, I'm just wondering how good will it be next patch (and whether certain champions will become better/worse once it's out of the picture).
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
June 02 2015 15:08 GMT
#411
So how OP is ekko? I haven't been playing but the consensus in the korean community make it sound like he is as bad as xin or leblanc way back.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 02 2015 15:09 GMT
#412
ban/fp every game
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 02 2015 15:33 GMT
#413
Ekko has the gnar/rumble problem, even when you're behind, one good ability rotation is a complete game changer. That, along with the fact that when he's ahead is fuarking scary as hell.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 02 2015 15:39 GMT
#414
It's how Rumble and Gnar are supposed to work, no problem there.

You're not whining that Magnus is a problem, when he can do nothing for fourty minutes and then get game winning polarity.

Ekko on the other hand, lol.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 15:42:07
June 02 2015 15:41 GMT
#415
Imo biggest problem is his passive.Why the fuck does he get an 80% slow+speedup AND 70% ratio on landing 3 abilities+attacks for 3 seconds wtf?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 02 2015 15:43 GMT
#416
Is Magnus a massive lane bully able to destroy his lane and splitpush, duel a bunch of opponents, but also single-handedly win teamfights (or games) even while massively behind?

(I'm starting to feel how ridiculous Maokai is after adjusting my item builds, though, despite some match-ups like Rumble or Garen being chores.)
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 02 2015 15:43 GMT
#417
On June 03 2015 00:41 nafta wrote:
Imo biggest problem is his passive.Why the fuck does he get an 80% slow+speedup AND 70% ratio on landing 3 abilities+attacks for 3 seconds wtf?


It's kind of a wibbley-wobbley...

....timey-wimey...

... thing.

Ekko: Don't Blink.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 02 2015 15:43 GMT
#418
On June 03 2015 00:08 lefty wrote:
So how OP is ekko? I haven't been playing but the consensus in the korean community make it sound like he is as bad as xin or leblanc way back.

Basically Fizz with an overall better kit and a way better ultimate but slightly worse mobility.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2015 17:05 GMT
#419
On June 03 2015 00:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's how Rumble and Gnar are supposed to work, no problem there.

You're not whining that Magnus is a problem, when he can do nothing for fourty minutes and then get game winning polarity.

Ekko on the other hand, lol.

Gnar is supposed to be behind? Since when?
Freeeeeeedom
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 02 2015 17:34 GMT
#420
On June 03 2015 02:05 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 00:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's how Rumble and Gnar are supposed to work, no problem there.

You're not whining that Magnus is a problem, when he can do nothing for fourty minutes and then get game winning polarity.

Ekko on the other hand, lol.

Gnar is supposed to be behind? Since when?


It's not what wei2coolman meant, God damn.
Even if you're behind with Gnar, you can change game with one proper R+W, that's it.

On June 03 2015 00:43 Alaric wrote:
Is Magnus a massive lane bully able to destroy his lane and splitpush, duel a bunch of opponents, but also single-handedly win teamfights (or games) even while massively behind?

(I'm starting to feel how ridiculous Maokai is after adjusting my item builds, though, despite some match-ups like Rumble or Garen being chores.)


You actually can do it with Magnus, just gotta build dps and not force staff/refresher :>
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