EPTFaker is still the most well-rounded and most consistent mid laner, but he's not flawless and other midlaners do some things better than him. Lolesports in general just turns out bullshit though, it took until MSI to recognise Clearlove as an all-time great?
[Patch 5.9] Ashe Rework General Discussion - Page 16
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Faker is still the most well-rounded and most consistent mid laner, but he's not flawless and other midlaners do some things better than him. Lolesports in general just turns out bullshit though, it took until MSI to recognise Clearlove as an all-time great? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 16 2015 22:43 Ansibled wrote: I think some of the problem is that when people talk about Faker being the best midlaner in the world, they tend to take it to the extreme and suggest that he is flawless or that he can play any champion better than anyone else in the world and that's never been true. Faker is still the most well-rounded and most consistent mid laner, but he's not flawless and other midlaners do some things better than him. Lolesports in general just turns out bullshit though, it took until MSI to recognise Clearlove as an all-time great? Clearlove has a decided "omg he's so good" and "he's fucking garbage" camps. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 16 2015 22:50 Gahlo wrote: Clearlove has a decided "omg he's so good" and "he's fucking garbage" camps. No, there is the "he's one of the best players ever" camp and the "he's probably only top 30ish" camp, but because camp 1 is full of vigorous fanboys, camp 2 gets mad because of their non-arguments. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I know it does for black cleaver. It applies max stacks of BC in one attack. On May 15 2015 04:18 chalice wrote: edit: slow it also seems like help pix could do up to like 150 damage on ashe over the duration of the shield at level 3 because i think it will double proc on each flurried auto and lategame teamed up with an solo lane AP lulu things might get kind of ridiculous. That'd be cool. I think Nami also provides on hit effects. You could make a on hit adc team comp. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On May 16 2015 23:27 obesechicken13 wrote: So does Ashe's thingy apply 4 procs of all on hits? Like wits end? I'll test that right away, it'd make BortK really pretty bonkers on her. EDIT: it doesn't so no broken on-hit Ashe bs. | ||
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Mensol
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i cant report other players??? Riot finally realized that im toxic as fk so they took it from me?_?_? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 16 2015 23:36 Jek wrote: I'll test that right away, it'd make BortK really pretty bonkers on her. It doesn't you don't need to test it.Not only does it say so in wikia but it would be straight up retarded and would never go through pbe without being mentioned. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Nohiko
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On May 16 2015 23:27 obesechicken13 wrote: So does Ashe's thingy apply 4 procs of all on hits? Like wits end? I know it does for black cleaver. It applies max stacks of BC in one attack. It applies On Attack effects, not On Hit. On Attack effects include Rageblade and Wit's End. BC gets max stacks as a result of stacking from separate instances of physical damage, which ashe gets 6 of (auto + 5 from flurry) every Q-empowered auto. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 16 2015 20:06 Kaethis wrote: What is the opinion on going BotRK on new Ashe? Obviously not good in all situations but after playing her a bit I noticed that her damage is insane.. if she can keep auto-ing the same target for some time and underwhelming otherwise. Obviously BotRK is less damage overall but it does help you get more auto's in when there's 2-3 tanks gunning for your buttcheeks. She doesn't use the onhit that efficiently imo, the only benefit is the AS to stack the q a bit faster. Still better to get ie, and only fight when you've got ult, since her Q scales much harder with raw AD. Also, not sure if msi was exactly a testament of clearlove's skills... His closest competition was bengi............. | ||
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Kaethis
Netherlands112 Posts
On May 17 2015 00:28 wei2coolman wrote: She doesn't use the onhit that efficiently imo, the only benefit is the AS to stack the q a bit faster. Still better to get ie, and only fight when you've got ult, since her Q scales much harder with raw AD. Also, not sure if msi was exactly a testament of clearlove's skills... His closest competition was bengi............. I've noticed that stacking the Q is actually a big deal and probably the largest limiting factor on her damage. It's kind of funny that her power in that sense has been reversed - she used to come into a fight crit-w-auto and then fall off damage-wise compared to other AD's and now her first few attacks are pretty meh and she explodes after the first 5. IE is still the biggest damage item but I can see people building BotRK the way they used to do it on Tristana. Your damage is high enough, you just need to live to apply it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 17 2015 01:01 Kaethis wrote: I've noticed that stacking the Q is actually a big deal and probably the largest limiting factor on her power. It's kind of funny that her power in that sense has been reversed - she used to come into a fight crit-w-auto and then fall off damage-wise compared to other AD's and now her first few attacks are pretty meh and she explodes after the first 5. IE is still the biggest damage item but I can see people building BotRK the way they used to do it on Tristana. Your damage is high enough, you just need to live to apply it. The Q stack is pretty easy to build up though... If you're stunning with your ult properly the build up is a nonfactor. | ||
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a1 Sovereign
Bulgaria67 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 17 2015 04:53 Ketara wrote: Seems like a good ADC for tank meta. Big initiation tool and then let 4 people peel for you while you build up dat damage. Still think she's problematic outside of laning phase. Assassin's are always pretty popular mid pick, her ability to survive against the likes of zed, lb, talon,etc makes her midgame pretty brutal to play. That being said, she's op'd as fuck in lane, her ability to keep her focus stacks up, means if any fight breaks out in lane she'll already be firing her barrage the second she activates q. Not to mention her ability to run people down in lane after a trade almost guarantees a winning trade | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 17 2015 07:14 Slusher wrote: assassins aren't top tier right now and a lot of them are just straight up bad in this meta, if you aren't picking early you should be safe I never said they were top tier, I said they're popular. People enjoy playing bursty shit with "outplay" ability. It's the same reason vayne is shit in soloqueue, but it's so popular in solo queue. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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