EPTInceased gold per level from such a smite could open up for more carry junglers I think, as it'd be more and more beneficial goldwise to let junglers keep farming the jungle instead of having mid/adc start hogging it.
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Inceased gold per level from such a smite could open up for more carry junglers I think, as it'd be more and more beneficial goldwise to let junglers keep farming the jungle instead of having mid/adc start hogging it. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On April 11 2015 11:49 Jek wrote: They could just remove jungler items all together and let smite either have passive that increase gold from camps or an effect like Poacher's but on any jungle camp. Poacher's effect could add an interesting minigame in keeping smite timer in queue with objective spawns. Inceased gold per level from such a smite could open up for more carry junglers I think, as it'd be more and more beneficial goldwise to let junglers keep farming the jungle instead of having mid/adc start hogging it. 'Carry' junglers would also be helped if Devourer didn't have to be so crap because of edge abuse cases. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/324nnf/for_everyone_who_has_diamond_5_lp_problems/ I just assumed they might have been salty even with all the proof. With regards to banning multiple smites per team, I'm a fan of more elegant solutions. Make rules not exceptions. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On April 11 2015 20:14 Osmoses wrote: Well, that could work, but to balance it they'd either have to make it do alot more damage or heal alot more health or they'd have to change either his E or his passive into a cc :p knockup + revive passive we can call him Vladtrox | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Like... if my lane opponent spends his first 900 gold on non-combat stats and comes to lane with no potential combat summoners... thats a HUUGE gamble for him. Gives you ages to exploit that shit. Who cares if he is level 2, thats only like 60 gold worth of stats now a days. Just all in the mofo. What he going to do? Flash away? Smite you? Teleport home even though he likely TP'd to lane? I kind of thinks its a non-issue for soloqueue, and riot has already shown they like the double jungle thing in competitive. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:40 iCanada wrote: Why is laners buying jungle items a problem anyway? Like... if my lane opponent spends his first 900 gold on non-combat stats and comes to lane with no potential combat summoners... thats a HUUGE gamble for him. Gives you ages to exploit that shit. Who cares if he is level 2, thats only like 60 gold worth of stats now a days. Just all in the mofo. What he going to do? Flash away? Smite you? Teleport home even though he likely TP'd to lane? I kind of thinks its a non-issue for soloqueue, and riot has already shown they like the double jungle thing in competitive. Well, summoner spells are blind, which is problem #1. And, plus, the "just body your opponent" thing hasn't worked on anything besides Renekton in forever. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:42 Ansibled wrote: Cinderhulk and Red Smite is super overtuned. Well yeah. So you just nerf Cinderhulk. Why is having more people get Smite a problem? I still dont understand. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:50 iCanada wrote: Well yeah. So you just nerf Cinderhulk. Why is having more people get Smite a problem? I still dont understand. Thats not a Cinderhulk problem though, thats a there is too many safe laners problem though. Or quit picking stuff like Maokai that can't really punish kids when you are ahead. There are a ton of champs that would dumpster a Shyvana going top with Smite/TP. Panth comes to mind, J4, Aatrox, Xin, even like Volibear. I think the meta can easily adjust and make this a terrible terrible strat unless you are 1v2ing. Hell, even pick a bad early game champion and use the lack of earyl game pressure / presence to farm. Poppy / Karthus, WW even. I still dont even understand why people are upset about top laners taking smite anyway. What difdference does it make... smite, TP, Ignite... same thing really. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:52 iCanada wrote: Thats not a Cinderhulk problem though, thats a there is too many safe laners problem though. Or quit picking stuff like Maokai that can't really punish kids when you are ahead. There are a ton of champs that would dumpster a Shyvana going top with Smite/TP. Panth comes to mind, J4, Aatrox, Xin, even like Volibear. I think the meta can easily adjust and make this a terrible terrible strat unless you are 1v2ing. Hell, even pick a bad early game champion and use the lack of earyl game pressure / presence to farm. Poppy / Karthus, WW even. I still dont even understand why people are upset about top laners taking smite anyway. What difdference does it make... smite, TP, Ignite... same thing really. You can't see that its TP/Smite until its too late... Plus its not a smite problem, or even just a cinderhulk problem, its a jungle item problem, and one that has excisted since the beginning of jungle items. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:40 iCanada wrote: I kind of thinks its a non-issue for soloqueue, and riot has already shown they like the double jungle thing in competitive. only after trying to nerf it with every tower buff imaginable. people tunnel to hard on base stats from levels when the topic of level advantage from smite comes up. levels 1-4 are big deals because of skillpoints not just raw stats, if I come to lane and I already have E and W on shyvana I'm getting farm, you can't stop me. Cinderhulk is strong, possibly OP but Skirmisher smite is a problem and I'm not sure what Riot wants/is going to do about it, every iteration they have tried has gotten a hero nerfed that would not have otherwise been nerfed if Skirmish smite was not so strong I actually really agree with Clutz's point, looking back 2 years fotm/op junglers have always been the ones that can use the strongest jungle item at the time, very rarely has it been about the actual hero being OP idk thats kinda a problem (although I'd downgrade it to 50/50 jungle items being a problem and Riot limiting their own design space by removing aura strats from the game) | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:40 iCanada wrote: Why is laners buying jungle items a problem anyway? Like... if my lane opponent spends his first 900 gold on non-combat stats and comes to lane with no potential combat summoners... thats a HUUGE gamble for him. Gives you ages to exploit that shit. Who cares if he is level 2, thats only like 60 gold worth of stats now a days. Just all in the mofo. What he going to do? Flash away? Smite you? Teleport home even though he likely TP'd to lane? I kind of thinks its a non-issue for soloqueue, and riot has already shown they like the double jungle thing in competitive. Smite/TP toplaners doesn't start with machete, you can easily do a single camp with Doran's Blade or Ruby Crystal for instance. First buy is usually Bami's Cinder, which is combat stats, and a pretty deceptively good one at that too. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
i really fucking hate lane swap | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 12 2015 04:19 Jek wrote: Smite/TP toplaners doesn't start with machete, you can easily do a single camp with Doran's Blade or Ruby Crystal for instance. First buy is usually Bami's Cinder, which is combat stats, and a pretty deceptively good one at that too. Yeah, sure. But why is it a bad thing for laners to be able to buy Jungle items? I've asked this like 10 times, no one has a reason other than "because." Everyone complains that LoL has not enough cool active items... Smite now is essentially an active item and everyone hates it. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On April 12 2015 04:44 Slusher wrote: if you run smite on Garen does spin trigger the true damage, they register as autos no? no wtf that said i dont run tp or smite on garen so i havent tested | ||
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