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On April 10 2015 23:00 General_Winter wrote:
Another way to enforce order would be to allow support mains (11 of last 20 games played as support) to dodge without any penalty. This way if a team was moving towards an nonviable comp that would lead to a miserable game or someone was trolling the team in a way that would make the game miserable the support could abort the whole thing by dodging.
lol
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On April 10 2015 18:35 Velocirapture wrote:
If they are willing to "force the meta" in solo queue then I have always felt it would make sense for role selection to be a phase before champion select. A simple 5 button menu that appears in order from top to bottom with previous selections greyed out. It would add maybe 30 seconds to the pre game lobby since both teams could do it simultaneously and make refusal to respect order a verifiable/bannable offense. In addition it could allow you to lock smite for everybody but the designated jungler while also allowing development of other lane specific utilities without fear of them leaking into other places.
Edit:grammar (it is late)
Well, Riot has said they're actively working on Team Builder ranked.
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I'm still not sure on this Ranked teambuilder thing.
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It would definitely be better if you just chose your role and then went into champ select instead of what it is now.
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isnt LCS playoffs a few hrs from now???
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"Enforce" is still a red flag word here.
And nope, LCS is EU immediatly followed by NA on satursday then sunday.
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On April 10 2015 23:58 justiceknight wrote:
isnt LCS playoffs a few hrs from now???
Playoffs are weekend only to maximize viewage.
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The ryze rework intro is weird, saying he was largely untouched for years. There was the mana mage rework. Before that, in beta, he lost the ap scaling on autos and spell flux ult 1 shot wonder.
+ Show Spoiler +Champion Update: Ryze heads to PBE
BY FIZZNCHIPS
One of League’s original 40 champions, Ryze’s gameplay has been largely left alone over the last five and a bit years. Welp, time to change “has” to “had”, because the champion update crew just finished creating a Rogue Mage fit for 2015’s champion aficionados.
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Yeah I had the exact same reaction, pretty strange to say Ryze has been left alone when he went through one complete rework and a couple of major redesigns lol.
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On April 10 2015 23:00 General_Winter wrote:
Another way to enforce order would be to allow support mains (11 of last 20 games played as support) to dodge without any penalty. This way if a team was moving towards an nonviable comp that would lead to a miserable game or someone was trolling the team in a way that would make the game miserable the support could abort the whole thing by dodging.
I am all for ridiculous support main priviliges. More power to me!
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Ugh, I would HATE team builder ranked. Sometimes I pick champs as a flex pick like Diana for mid jungle or Zyra top/mid/support. Then I get to see what the enemy picks in the next round before calling a position.
Most of my games this season I've played jungle and support. But sometimes I'll see a Katarina or Zed mid lane and want to counter pick because I don't trust my team to deal with them properly. I don't really like the idea of a separate ranked queue competing with the regular queue. Part of what makes you better at the game is playing different roles that you're not 100% comfortable with and learning how the team dynamics work.
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On April 10 2015 06:22 Alaric wrote:
MF would rather have an ally apply the shred for her, she already suffers enough from the split damage and lack of pre-applied stacks on most targets without having to deal with BC's stacking mechanic too.
Graves' damage is frontloaded, there's no way he wants BC.
Ya I would love the Wukong on my team to have a BC on them during that MF/Wukong Wombo. Much rather build a BT or LW and get the most I can out of her Auto-Q-Auto and W stacks.
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On April 11 2015 03:06 Sonnington wrote:
Ugh, I would HATE team builder ranked. Sometimes I pick champs as a flex pick like Diana for mid jungle or Zyra top/mid/support. Then I get to see what the enemy picks in the next round before calling a position.
Most of my games this season I've played jungle and support. But sometimes I'll see a Katarina or Zed mid lane and want to counter pick because I don't trust my team to deal with them properly. I don't really like the idea of a separate ranked queue competing with the regular queue. Part of what makes you better at the game is playing different roles that you're not 100% comfortable with and learning how the team dynamics work.
wow thats so smart.Your so smart Ill try to do that in my games too from now on
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Dunno why they put Ryze through double reworks when hes perfectly fine the way he is now... Q being a skillshot is a pain in the ass
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On April 11 2015 04:10 brokenwatch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 03:06 Sonnington wrote:
Ugh, I would HATE team builder ranked. Sometimes I pick champs as a flex pick like Diana for mid jungle or Zyra top/mid/support. Then I get to see what the enemy picks in the next round before calling a position.
Most of my games this season I've played jungle and support. But sometimes I'll see a Katarina or Zed mid lane and want to counter pick because I don't trust my team to deal with them properly. I don't really like the idea of a separate ranked queue competing with the regular queue. Part of what makes you better at the game is playing different roles that you're not 100% comfortable with and learning how the team dynamics work. wow thats so smart.Your so smart Ill try to do that in my games too from now on
That's why I play lulu. I can go almost anywhere :D
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On April 10 2015 11:41 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 11:31 wei2coolman wrote:On April 10 2015 11:27 Ketara wrote:On April 10 2015 11:22 AlterKot wrote:
1 smite per team. I would actually like and support this. inb4 causing toplane and jungle to argue over who gets to have smite. What is the alternative? They can either: A - Decide that it's okay for top laners to have smite (they won't do this) B - Buff Flash and Ignite to compete with smite (they won't do this) C - Buff other itemization to compete with jungle items (they won't do this) D - Nerf jungle items till top laners don't want to take them (they MIGHT do this but it would fuck up jungle balance hardcore) E - Artificially restrict top laners from taking Smite. There's no clean way to solve this issue IMO, so they may as well just artificially restrict smite the same way they artificially restricted the jungle items.
Maybe they could balance the game in a way that doesn't rely on arbitrary restrictions so that way you don't get flagrant abuse cases like solo laners constantly either building jungle items (Spirit Vlad, Cinder Shyv), solo laners taking jungle farm, turning supports into 0-incoming ward slaves, or having roaming level 2 Taric/Alistar come shit on you because that was so toxic and anti-fun.
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and how do you suggest balancing the game in such a way?
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On April 11 2015 08:11 Zess wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 11:41 Ketara wrote:On April 10 2015 11:31 wei2coolman wrote:On April 10 2015 11:27 Ketara wrote:On April 10 2015 11:22 AlterKot wrote:
1 smite per team. I would actually like and support this. inb4 causing toplane and jungle to argue over who gets to have smite. What is the alternative? They can either: A - Decide that it's okay for top laners to have smite (they won't do this) B - Buff Flash and Ignite to compete with smite (they won't do this) C - Buff other itemization to compete with jungle items (they won't do this) D - Nerf jungle items till top laners don't want to take them (they MIGHT do this but it would fuck up jungle balance hardcore) E - Artificially restrict top laners from taking Smite. There's no clean way to solve this issue IMO, so they may as well just artificially restrict smite the same way they artificially restricted the jungle items. Maybe they could balance the game in a way that doesn't rely on arbitrary restrictions so that way you don't get flagrant abuse cases like solo laners constantly either building jungle items (Spirit Vlad, Cinder Shyv), solo laners taking jungle farm, turning supports into 0-incoming ward slaves, or having roaming level 2 Taric/Alistar come shit on you because that was so toxic and anti-fun.
That path was available post S-2, we took the other path with the invention of jungle items.
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just entered team builder solo and got matched with a dude on my friend list i haven't played with in 2 years
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On April 11 2015 08:17 Slayer91 wrote:
and how do you suggest balancing the game in such a way?
I would also like to know how Xes would resolve this issue.
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