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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 20 2015 21:35 GMT
#721
Jesus, how the fuck do people get into leagues anymore? I was extremely disabled by various substances, so I made an account to futz around on like AD lux without getting pooed on by plat/diamond.

good lord

I played 4 games at level 1 and in every one there were at least 4 people smurfing around gold level, not only that but in all of them there were organized duo ques playing kill lanes and coordinating each other's ganks. WTF. It was basically a normal gold/silver level ranked game with 1 or 2 really unfortunate beginners getting instakilled by some dickheads on skype organizing repeated three man tower dives. And all these smurfs were flaming.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 20 2015 21:37 GMT
#722
On March 21 2015 00:45 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I am not going to play Shaco until the tanky shit gets a lil nerf.

How about you stop playing Shaco. Thanks.

I wonder what would happen if Grail did something to interact with bonus mana. Something like 1%/5 missing + 5%/5 of bonus mana.

Probably would be broken on Nid, but for anivia, swain and kass, they're all not in a great spot atm, it could be the bit of a push they need.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 20 2015 21:41 GMT
#723
On March 21 2015 06:35 sob3k wrote:
Jesus, how the fuck do people get into leagues anymore? I was extremely disabled by various substances, so I made an account to futz around on like AD lux without getting pooed on by plat/diamond.

good lord

I played 4 games at level 1 and in every one there were at least 4 people smurfing around gold level, not only that but in all of them there were organized duo ques playing kill lanes and coordinating each other's ganks. WTF. It was basically a normal gold/silver level ranked game with 1 or 2 really unfortunate beginners getting instakilled by some dickheads on skype organizing repeated three man tower dives. And all these smurfs were flaming.

They win 10 or so games, they get matched amongst themselves. Smurfs get weeded out pretty fast for new accounts.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
March 20 2015 22:02 GMT
#724
The change to Athenes passive reads as completely irrelevant to me. The 20% you get from it +DG now is more than enough to keep you going in any fight where you get assists and kills. They probably just added it to solidify its identity as the safer/less aggressive pick. It will still be less efficient and 400 gold more expensive than morello so I think both will see play.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 22:39:03
March 20 2015 22:38 GMT
#725
On March 21 2015 06:35 sob3k wrote:
Jesus, how the fuck do people get into leagues anymore? I was extremely disabled by various substances, so I made an account to futz around on like AD lux without getting pooed on by plat/diamond.

good lord

I played 4 games at level 1 and in every one there were at least 4 people smurfing around gold level, not only that but in all of them there were organized duo ques playing kill lanes and coordinating each other's ganks. WTF. It was basically a normal gold/silver level ranked game with 1 or 2 really unfortunate beginners getting instakilled by some dickheads on skype organizing repeated three man tower dives. And all these smurfs were flaming.

Very strange. I played a game at level 1, and went 45 - 1 as GP mid. And I`m in silver. Maybe I just got lucky. I don`t really run into smurfs until a few games in usually.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 22:53:48
March 20 2015 22:51 GMT
#726
On March 21 2015 06:37 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:45 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I am not going to play Shaco until the tanky shit gets a lil nerf.

How about you stop playing Shaco. Thanks.

I wonder what would happen if Grail did something to interact with bonus mana. Something like 1%/5 missing + 5%/5 of bonus mana.

Probably would be broken on Nid, but for anivia, swain and kass, they're all not in a great spot atm, it could be the bit of a push they need.

Grail does interact with bonus mana. The unique ability is mana regen based on your missing mana. So if you have twice as large a pool you have twice as much potential for missing mana and so twice as much potential regen from chalice/Grail.

Edit: its for this reason that it is actually currently really strong on ROA mages who can double or triple their mana in the mid game with rod. Anivia or Swain with rod and cup will basically never run out of mana
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 20 2015 23:06 GMT
#727
What? A mage spending on three big mana stat buys won't oom?

Ground breaking.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 23:09:30
March 20 2015 23:09 GMT
#728
On March 21 2015 07:51 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:37 Amui wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:45 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I am not going to play Shaco until the tanky shit gets a lil nerf.

How about you stop playing Shaco. Thanks.

I wonder what would happen if Grail did something to interact with bonus mana. Something like 1%/5 missing + 5%/5 of bonus mana.

Probably would be broken on Nid, but for anivia, swain and kass, they're all not in a great spot atm, it could be the bit of a push they need.

Grail does interact with bonus mana. The unique ability is mana regen based on your missing mana. So if you have twice as large a pool you have twice as much potential for missing mana and so twice as much potential regen from chalice/Grail.

Edit: its for this reason that it is actually currently really strong on ROA mages who can double or triple their mana in the mid game with rod. Anivia or Swain with rod and cup will basically never run out of mana

anivia still runs oom hard w/ rod
tear + chalice is the minimum necessity to not run out without constant blue buffs
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 23:16:31
March 20 2015 23:13 GMT
#729
On March 21 2015 08:09 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:51 Goumindong wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:37 Amui wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:45 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I am not going to play Shaco until the tanky shit gets a lil nerf.

How about you stop playing Shaco. Thanks.

I wonder what would happen if Grail did something to interact with bonus mana. Something like 1%/5 missing + 5%/5 of bonus mana.

Probably would be broken on Nid, but for anivia, swain and kass, they're all not in a great spot atm, it could be the bit of a push they need.

Grail does interact with bonus mana. The unique ability is mana regen based on your missing mana. So if you have twice as large a pool you have twice as much potential for missing mana and so twice as much potential regen from chalice/Grail.

Edit: its for this reason that it is actually currently really strong on ROA mages who can double or triple their mana in the mid game with rod. Anivia or Swain with rod and cup will basically never run out of mana

anivia still runs oom hard w/ rod
tear + chalice is the minimum necessity to not run out without constant blue buffs

Seconded. Even with blue, you'll run oom with just rod or tear. Chalice alone gives a fair amount of regen, but you can spend far, far faster than it comes back in, and while you can get away with blue+chalice, there isn't really leeway to sustain ulti simply for area denial. Have to get chalice+either rod or tear to even stay somewhat mana neutral in lane as well as give a pool for usage.

The idea behind that was to buff the mages who actually built mana items in addition to grail. I feel like almost every other mage who just buys grail already doesn't have mana constraints. Swain/kass already have mana sustain built into their kits and need the pool only for sustaining mana burst in fights, which leaves anivia as the only one who really hard OOM's while clearing waves.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 23:40:04
March 20 2015 23:37 GMT
#730
On March 21 2015 08:06 iCanada wrote:
What? A mage spending on three big mana stat buys won't oom?

Ground breaking.

Uhh 1.5. Rod + chalice. = 4900 gold.

The point was that chalice interacts positively with bonus mana despite the claim of the person I was quoting. If you have 1500 mana base and are missing 1000 of that then chalice provides an extra 20 MP5. If you have 500 mana and are missing 300 of that then chalice provides an extra 6 MP5.

The bonus mana on Rod or Tear (or any other bonus mana item) then significantly increases the bonus MP5 that chalice provides.

Edit: indeed, without bonus mana (or early in the game) most mages get very little out of the unique passive from chalice. Since it will cap around 6 to 10 MP5 and that is around 50% of your base (such that the cdr double fey charm item is as or more effective)
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 21 2015 05:53 GMT
#731
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 21 2015 07:01 GMT
#732
On March 21 2015 14:53 krndandaman wrote:
hmm after playing with bard a bit, I really wish they made bard a melee (or shorter range) compensated by more tankiness. he's way too squishy for someone with no damage/conditional self peel.


what runes/masteries and build are you running?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 21 2015 07:24 GMT
#733
This TSM/CLG thing is pretty fucked up.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
March 21 2015 10:15 GMT
#734
On March 21 2015 16:24 Ansibled wrote:
This TSM/CLG thing is pretty fucked up.

EXPLAIN
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 21 2015 10:22 GMT
#735
On March 21 2015 19:15 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 16:24 Ansibled wrote:
This TSM/CLG thing is pretty fucked up.

EXPLAIN

http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64719
TSM Darkness' ADC recorded scrim footage vs CLG Black and sent it to fusion's coach
Glorious SEA doto
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 21 2015 10:55 GMT
#736
It was so obviously the scrim recordings that caused CLG to lose.

No but it's still a bit of a dick move.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-21 11:05:33
March 21 2015 11:04 GMT
#737
TSM should have harder time finding good scrims now, and the guy who did it should be done for

edit: TSM Darkness, that is
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
March 21 2015 12:20 GMT
#738
I don't know. t3azer was kicked the moment it got out he was the one leaking. TSM (Darkness) handled it about as well as they could. One of their players did a shitty thing and they kicked him for it, I don't think this has to hurt the team any further.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 21 2015 15:53 GMT
#739
Man, Face of the Mountain is so much better than Warmogs.

So silly.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
March 21 2015 16:03 GMT
#740
Queue times for team builder are vicious right now.
Stay positive!
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