EPTBut maybe I just want to play jungle diana anyways
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
But maybe I just want to play jungle diana anyways | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 12 2015 08:06 Velocirapture wrote: I think a lot of AP mids will get Luden's as a 5th or 6th item in solo queue since full damage builds are way more common. Lux is the only mid who may get it first item. Something like chalice into echo and only if it lets you wave clear with one E. Every other mage we see in mid has one rotation wave clear really early so we will still see boots/mana item/void staff/deathcap/hourglass before echo (possibly echo before hourglass if you are crushing the game). I dunno, abyssal and rylais seems to be the de facto 6th item after zhonyas. It'll highly depend on how strong echo's proc is. If it has high enough impact it'll just replace death cap straight up. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I actually think Ludens Echo Nidalee is going to be straight up broken overpowered, spears not only chunking one guy but also doing AOE damage to the rest of the team? Okay. Not as bad as it looked like on PBE though, since they changed it from 100+15% AP to 60+5 per level. | ||
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
Also just wanted to say to whoever suggested Sion support in the last Patch thread, THANKS! Support Sion is my new favourite support, super strong and hard carrys! I tried the brut build but TBH I think support Sion is far better going full tank. Actually one game I played I managed to go sunfire into Ravenous hydra and that was fun (as support hue). This was after my sightstone too so it wasn't like I cut wards. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
With cinderhulk, righteous glory and randuin's, gromp buff now does like 200 damage over 3 seconds...? I dunno about that. Banner is great. Especially if you're Soraka and you have baron. Just get a cannon minion to solo their towers while you heal it constantly. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
And I liked it that way. :/ next taking turrets will give the enemy team gold or something. | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
The Luden's Echo just seems OP on champs like Twisted Fate, Diana, and Kat (AP champs that benefit from high AP items and move speed increases). Cinderhulk enhantment will help tank junglers, not sure if it'll be enough. Nice to see Riot acknowledge that they fucked up with their jungle changes and hopefully this'll let tank junglers be viable again, especially when we're starting to see a meta shift of more carry champs in the top lane. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 12 2015 08:26 Ketara wrote: Here's how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw0HUGNADfs I actually think Ludens Echo Nidalee is going to be straight up broken overpowered, spears not only chunking one guy but also doing AOE damage to the rest of the team? Okay. Not as bad as it looked like on PBE though, since they changed it from 100+15% AP to 60+5 per level. I don't see how that's op'd? the extra damage is only from the proc, not the spell. That demo video makes it feels really underwhelming visually. On March 12 2015 10:40 Kinie wrote: I think of everything in this patch, the biggest change is the slight damage nerf to the jungle camps, which will probably let junglers not have to back right away after getting their second buff, potentially allowing for more early game ganks. The Luden's Echo just seems OP on champs like Twisted Fate, Diana, and Kat (AP champs that benefit from high AP items and move speed increases). Cinderhulk enhantment will help tank junglers, not sure if it'll be enough. Nice to see Riot acknowledge that they fucked up with their jungle changes and hopefully this'll let tank junglers be viable again, especially when we're starting to see a meta shift of more carry champs in the top lane. Don't think it'll be op'd on TF. Morello+LichBane+Zhonya's+Void are too core in his build. Would Luden's really be a better pick than last item deathcap on that core build? I could see it being okay on Kat, but mpen build still seems the way to go. Haunting Guise, Abyssal, Zhonya, Void staff. How does that fit in there? Maybe if the active does enough damage to warrant losing some mpen from haunting guise? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On March 12 2015 05:56 Sonnington wrote: They buffed the everloving shit out of the jungle. What a knee jerk reaction by Riot. I was hoping Morello and GC would hold their ground like men on this one. Fuck you, jungle has been utter garbage. I think RG might be another Athenes case. Item is good as hell, Riot buffs it, some people try it and realize how OP it is int he buffed form, Riot nerfs it into the ground. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 12 2015 11:26 Gahlo wrote: Fuck you, jungle has been utter garbage. I think RG might be another Athenes case. Item is good as hell, Riot buffs it, some people try it and realize how OP it is int he buffed form, Riot nerfs it into the ground. it's still strictly worse in 1v1 scenario's compared to a lot of other defensive item choices. IMO before you loss too much lane pressure rushing it first item. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 12 2015 11:37 Slusher wrote: if you honestly feel that way 150 health isn't going to fix it, it's just weird that thy buffed such a strong item at all. Not that the buff is super huge or anything. It's a stop gap measure imo, it'll allow people to stay in lane a bit better. Before you would get bullied pretty hard going RG first item. Also it'll make the 2nd item timing a bit better, allowing people to go randuins 2nd instead of FH (since mana is now no longer an issue for most after RG). | ||
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