EPTWith the changes it's not worth doing anymore.
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
With the changes it's not worth doing anymore. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
While shielded, do subsequent autos make the shield damage stack, or reset? | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
from what I can tell in this custom is, the tic timer is uneffected by subsequent autos other than extending it by 2 seconds, meanwhile you get a "bonus" on hit of half of the tooltip damage on every auto. idk as far as I can tell thats what is happening, I've definately gotten 50 magic damage(at rank 3 where it should be 25 per tic) on one auto @1.18 (meaning the later autos aren't effecting the timer) and thus the tic will be unsync'd with your auto as you go over 1.0 | ||
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
On March 15 2015 06:32 Ketara wrote: So if you attack faster than once every two seconds it's not doing extra damage? I believe so. I remember reading Nautilus players being upset when Wit's End got buffed from 42%AS to 50%AS because it went over the threshold. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On March 15 2015 06:41 Gahlo wrote: I believe so. I remember reading Nautilus players being upset when Wit's End got buffed from 42%AS to 50%AS because it went over the threshold. IIRC Riot changed it to rolling dots, which simply get extended on autos to alleviate that issue. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
- half the damage on-hit, the other half one second later. If you go from 0.99 to 1.01 AS, you basically halve your dps. Now: - half the damage on-hit, applies or reset the debuff. Every second after initial application, the debuff damages for the other half. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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droserin
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On March 15 2015 07:17 Slusher wrote: does anyone know about the singed changes on the PBE? is the ratio to Fling unchanged? or has it been changed to xxAP = 1% max hp, I feel like this is a difference between this being a massive buff and a net nerf. It looks like the ratio is the same. It's just some of the base damage got moved to %HP. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
W max is like, the thing, but now with the changes, does E max look better? | ||
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Mensol
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I was planning to buy her... | ||
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
On March 15 2015 08:05 Mensol wrote: I just heard that Irelia got nerfed on PBE. I was planning to buy her... Get her anyway, it's a minor change. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 15 2015 08:03 Ketara wrote: So, Nautilus question #2. W max is like, the thing, but now with the changes, does E max look better? What changes makes E max on Naut better? If anything, all the HP stack because of Cinderhulk solidifies W max as a thing for Naut. More HP = bigger shield = longer AoE autos On March 15 2015 08:05 Mensol wrote: I just heard that Irelia got nerfed on PBE. I was planning to buy her... Irelia's been out forever, she's 4800 IP. Are you really that IP starved? ;; | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'll have to try E max, but I dislike it because you're significantly less tanky in fights than with W max, and you spend a metric fuckton more mana to clear or to make up for it in E damage. I also dislike E because of how unreliable it is. Well, Nautilus is unreliable in general (shit MS/AS so autoing with W not always possible, you can literally walk out of his passive, Q hitbox doesn't match the tip of the anchor at long ranges, E has long cast time, low projectile speed, and immobilises you, R is unreliable by nature to make up for point'n'click basically), but to me E is basically his less satisfying ability and it whiffs so often/easily. So even if it clears faster than W max I'll feel worse off. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On March 15 2015 08:03 Ketara wrote: So, Nautilus question #2. W max is like, the thing, but now with the changes, does E max look better? I think Alaric covered it pretty well. More often than not, E does absolutely nothing because it's trivial to accidentally walk out of, or only get hit by once, and essentially impossible to get hit by it completely. Halving the cooldown effectively doubles how frequently you can do absolutely nothing. If you can make it do something at all, then probably. If you find you're not actually hitting people with it, then probably not. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On March 15 2015 08:11 NeoIllusions wrote: What changes makes E max on Naut better? If anything, all the HP stack because of Cinderhulk solidifies W max as a thing for Naut. More HP = bigger shield = longer AoE autos Irelia's been out forever, she's 4800 IP. Are you really that IP starved? ;; yep i still miss like 30-40 champs. im getting bored way too fast so its hard to farm IP for me. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 15 2015 08:17 Mensol wrote: yep i still miss like 30-40 champs. im getting bored way too fast so its hard to farm IP for me. It might be an exploratory nerf. Iirc it's just to stop her from E maxing. Some people think that "better nerf Irelia" has kept her safe from nerfs for a few years. I know every time her nerfs went on PBE they'd be removed before they hit live in the past. If Riot cares that much about pissing people off with unwarranted nerfs, then maybe that's the case. And so they're just trying to see if a small nerf will cause the community to rage before pushing through actual nerfs. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On March 15 2015 08:11 NeoIllusions wrote: What changes makes E max on Naut better? If anything, all the HP stack because of Cinderhulk solidifies W max as a thing for Naut. More HP = bigger shield = longer AoE autos Well, they changed it so the CD scales with level. 3 second cooldown at max rank with CDR is pretigud. I did a couple clears and was getting identical times for level 6 with W max and E max, so I think W prob still better? E is more damage, but less mana efficient so you can't use Q at all in the jungle, it seems if you max W you can use some Q's in the jungle which makes up for it. | ||
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