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On October 23 2015 06:16 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 05:53 Redox wrote:If I am not mistaken a newly qualified team has to keep 3/5 of its players Nope, just a very common misconception. Just looked it up in LCS rules, not really a misconception. They only need to keep those 3 players for the first game though. Which still means they need to give them a contract and all.
A Challenger Series team that wins its match must play at least 3 members of the active roster that earned the spot in the LCS in the first game of the split.
from https://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/lolesports/Rule Sets/2015_LCS_Rule_Set_2.01.pdf, point 3.2
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Oh, didn't know that, thanks for pointing it out. I thought they might've changed it in S5 but I checked 2014 ruleset and it's also there, so guess I either missed that or mistaken with some other 3/5 rule.
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On October 23 2015 07:26 AlterKot wrote: Oh, didn't know that, thanks for pointing it out. I thought they might've changed it in S5 but I checked 2014 ruleset and it's also there, so guess I either missed that or mistaken with some other 3/5 rule. It often gets misquoted as returning LCS teams can't change 3+ players at once.
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On October 23 2015 06:10 EsanLOL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 04:19 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 03:48 BrownBear wrote:On October 23 2015 01:37 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote: I'm more curious as to who TSM and other NA LCS teams are going to import. hue Hauntzer to replace Dyrus is eh... could be worse? Unless meteos is trapped in a C9 contract, I still think meteos + top import + NA or import support is TSM's best bet. Given C9's posts about creating a challenger team w/ Meteos, I think they have him locked up pretty tightly. Well that's unfortunate. Also, keep in mind Gamsu might leave Dig, that leaves another top lane to be filled. Then there is the vacant spot for T8 top lane. Overall the situation looks bleak for NA. The thing is, the talent situation is only really dire in mid and to a lesser extent top. There are maybe 4 NA players in jungle/ADC/supp that bottom teams could bring up and it wouldn't be awful for them. So in that sense, as long as you use your import slots for the solos, it shouldn't be THAT bad if import slots are used effectively (no more Avalons or importing ADCs when that's like the role with the most depth in NA). I think there's more depth in adc and jungle than you make it out to be in NA. Every single other role is just nothing though. Maybe there's a couple mids but nobody that'll get you to Worlds (LOOKING AT YOU GATE).
Random useless speculation, LOD duoing with Crumbzz a fair amount and I think he'd be a very good fit on RNG. Kid deserves an LCS shot. I think he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for and if he stops himself from thinking he tilts after any small mistake he can be a pretty cerebral player.
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On October 23 2015 08:37 bbc23 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 06:10 EsanLOL wrote:On October 23 2015 04:19 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 03:48 BrownBear wrote:On October 23 2015 01:37 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote: I'm more curious as to who TSM and other NA LCS teams are going to import. hue Hauntzer to replace Dyrus is eh... could be worse? Unless meteos is trapped in a C9 contract, I still think meteos + top import + NA or import support is TSM's best bet. Given C9's posts about creating a challenger team w/ Meteos, I think they have him locked up pretty tightly. Well that's unfortunate. Also, keep in mind Gamsu might leave Dig, that leaves another top lane to be filled. Then there is the vacant spot for T8 top lane. Overall the situation looks bleak for NA. The thing is, the talent situation is only really dire in mid and to a lesser extent top. There are maybe 4 NA players in jungle/ADC/supp that bottom teams could bring up and it wouldn't be awful for them. So in that sense, as long as you use your import slots for the solos, it shouldn't be THAT bad if import slots are used effectively (no more Avalons or importing ADCs when that's like the role with the most depth in NA). I think there's more depth in adc and jungle than you make it out to be in NA. Every single other role is just nothing though. Maybe there's a couple mids but nobody that'll get you to Worlds (LOOKING AT YOU GATE). Random useless speculation, LOD duoing with Crumbzz a fair amount and I think he'd be a very good fit on RNG. Kid deserves an LCS shot. I think he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for and if he stops himself from thinking he tilts after any small mistake he can be a pretty cerebral player. After Ich uprooted his entire family to continue his career in NA, the only place he could keep his family around, I doubt they're going to drop him until he proves he can't cut in LCS.
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LOD is an adc now my friend, RNG is in the market for one of those.
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On October 23 2015 08:46 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 08:37 bbc23 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:10 EsanLOL wrote:On October 23 2015 04:19 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 03:48 BrownBear wrote:On October 23 2015 01:37 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote: I'm more curious as to who TSM and other NA LCS teams are going to import. hue Hauntzer to replace Dyrus is eh... could be worse? Unless meteos is trapped in a C9 contract, I still think meteos + top import + NA or import support is TSM's best bet. Given C9's posts about creating a challenger team w/ Meteos, I think they have him locked up pretty tightly. Well that's unfortunate. Also, keep in mind Gamsu might leave Dig, that leaves another top lane to be filled. Then there is the vacant spot for T8 top lane. Overall the situation looks bleak for NA. The thing is, the talent situation is only really dire in mid and to a lesser extent top. There are maybe 4 NA players in jungle/ADC/supp that bottom teams could bring up and it wouldn't be awful for them. So in that sense, as long as you use your import slots for the solos, it shouldn't be THAT bad if import slots are used effectively (no more Avalons or importing ADCs when that's like the role with the most depth in NA). I think there's more depth in adc and jungle than you make it out to be in NA. Every single other role is just nothing though. Maybe there's a couple mids but nobody that'll get you to Worlds (LOOKING AT YOU GATE). Random useless speculation, LOD duoing with Crumbzz a fair amount and I think he'd be a very good fit on RNG. Kid deserves an LCS shot. I think he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for and if he stops himself from thinking he tilts after any small mistake he can be a pretty cerebral player. After Ich uprooted his entire family to continue his career in NA, the only place he could keep his family around, I doubt they're going to drop him until he proves he can't cut in LCS. especially since he was probably the best player on that team coming up through relegations, they have other positions to improve first if they were going to replace any
in terms of NA talent NA's got (relatively) decent jungle and botlane positions, it's the solo lane talent that's really thin especially top lane.
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On October 23 2015 08:55 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 08:46 Gahlo wrote:On October 23 2015 08:37 bbc23 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:10 EsanLOL wrote:On October 23 2015 04:19 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 03:48 BrownBear wrote:On October 23 2015 01:37 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2015 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote: I'm more curious as to who TSM and other NA LCS teams are going to import. hue Hauntzer to replace Dyrus is eh... could be worse? Unless meteos is trapped in a C9 contract, I still think meteos + top import + NA or import support is TSM's best bet. Given C9's posts about creating a challenger team w/ Meteos, I think they have him locked up pretty tightly. Well that's unfortunate. Also, keep in mind Gamsu might leave Dig, that leaves another top lane to be filled. Then there is the vacant spot for T8 top lane. Overall the situation looks bleak for NA. The thing is, the talent situation is only really dire in mid and to a lesser extent top. There are maybe 4 NA players in jungle/ADC/supp that bottom teams could bring up and it wouldn't be awful for them. So in that sense, as long as you use your import slots for the solos, it shouldn't be THAT bad if import slots are used effectively (no more Avalons or importing ADCs when that's like the role with the most depth in NA). I think there's more depth in adc and jungle than you make it out to be in NA. Every single other role is just nothing though. Maybe there's a couple mids but nobody that'll get you to Worlds (LOOKING AT YOU GATE). Random useless speculation, LOD duoing with Crumbzz a fair amount and I think he'd be a very good fit on RNG. Kid deserves an LCS shot. I think he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for and if he stops himself from thinking he tilts after any small mistake he can be a pretty cerebral player. After Ich uprooted his entire family to continue his career in NA, the only place he could keep his family around, I doubt they're going to drop him until he proves he can't cut in LCS. especially since he was probably the best player on that team coming up through relegations, they have other positions to improve first if they were going to replace any in terms of NA talent NA's got (relatively) decent jungle and botlane positions, it's the solo lane talent that's really thin especially top lane. bring my boy InsanityXXX in, plays all roles all champions
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On October 23 2015 02:32 Slusher wrote: well if they have Shrimp, as is rumored, thats one import slot locked up
Just to debunk that rumor: on the lol subreddit thread where the TSM shrimp rumor got spread, someone said that it was just a troll impersonating IWD by using a similar looking name and that Saint figured it out later and blocked this account on stream. Can't be bothered to watch through the VOD to 100% confirm it but here's the link to the comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3pakte/shrimp_to_tsm_leaked_on_saintvicious_stream/cw4nk1h
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http://cloud9.gg/news/lcs-tryouts
C9 announces tryouts for jungle or support depending on which role Hai chooses. Interestingly enough OCE is listed a region that's eligible.
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Does this mean ball stays on c9?
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Well the interesting thing is that Hai is staying on the roster. Tbh I am surprised. They must be really desperate for Hai's shotcalling since he is not that proficient on both roles and also doesnt seem that motivated to play anymore.
Imo C9 can not be a top team as long as they keep someone on the team just for shotcalling who is subpar otherwise.
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On October 24 2015 08:57 Redox wrote: Well the interesting thing is that Hai is staying on the roster. Tbh I am surprised. They must be really desperate for Hai's shotcalling since he is not that proficient on both roles and also doesnt seem that motivated to play anymore.
Imo C9 can not be a top team as long as they keep someone on the team just for shotcalling who is subpar otherwise. not sure what you want more for "top team". They did reach worlds and did ok for the group they were in.
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To be fair C9 was hardly at peak with guys like Balls and Lemon, we've still yet to see a scenario with 4 actually great individual players and Hai's shotcalling. Would be cool if Hai somehow made the transition successfuly, it's basicaly the scenario most C9 fans were hoping for.
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im somehow certain that Hai will stay as jungler. I cant see him having bot lane synergy with Sneaky.
C9 Xpecial? hehehe.
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On October 24 2015 09:03 FaCE_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 08:57 Redox wrote: Well the interesting thing is that Hai is staying on the roster. Tbh I am surprised. They must be really desperate for Hai's shotcalling since he is not that proficient on both roles and also doesnt seem that motivated to play anymore.
Imo C9 can not be a top team as long as they keep someone on the team just for shotcalling who is subpar otherwise. not sure what you want more for "top team". They did reach worlds and did ok for the group they were in. Yeah top team is not well defined here. I mean by that a level at which they were before, best team NA, good chances to get past groups at worlds etc.
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I honestly prefer to see Hai as a coach than as a player - especially NOT as a support. It's just too CLG-esque of a move for me.
I think all NA fans should be saddened by this move. By keeping Balls who hasn't played well for a year and keeping Hai (with potentially MORE roleswaps), I think C9 is aiming merely for mediocrity.
On October 24 2015 09:03 FaCE_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 08:57 Redox wrote: Well the interesting thing is that Hai is staying on the roster. Tbh I am surprised. They must be really desperate for Hai's shotcalling since he is not that proficient on both roles and also doesnt seem that motivated to play anymore.
Imo C9 can not be a top team as long as they keep someone on the team just for shotcalling who is subpar otherwise. not sure what you want more for "top team". They did reach worlds and did ok for the group they were in.
Yes, I know C9 had a chance to advance out of group stage in its current roster; but C9 massively overperformed in first week and lost their chance against a very bad IG and a questionable AHQ twice on the second week.
Overall, the current C9 roster is a huge downgrade from 2013-2014.
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I thought Hai had serious wrist problems, how come he can continue playing? Was that exagerrated?
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On October 24 2015 09:18 Sent. wrote: I thought Hai had serious wrist problems, how come he can continue playing? Was that exagerrated? C9 pulled a Sanshao on us all :O
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