EPTCaptains won't no longer have 3 bans.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Captains won't no longer have 3 bans. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 24 2015 14:46 MooMooMugi wrote: no longer have 3 bans, so 4 bans now finally? Also the vague wording suggests that there might be two stages of bans. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 24 2015 15:36 AlterKot wrote: If I find a post of me saying balls is overrated from 2 years ago, do I get a get-out-of-revisionism card? Because posts like this sound to me like justificating one's opinion. "W-we couldn't judge how good he was in the past because of different circumances" except we all did but history proved only some of us right. only if you can somehow prove that balls was bad back then and didn't just become bad now He might have been overrated at some point but he wasn't only a good player for like 1 split like wonderful was saying | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
Point being noone here can "prove" how good a player is, only say our opinion and mine is same as wonderful's. | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On October 24 2015 15:55 AlterKot wrote: Ok how do I prove that, any stats that accurately measure player's skill? Detailed analysis of how many mistakes he did in x ammount of games compared to average? Point being noone here can "prove" how good a player is, only say our opinion and mine is same as wonderful's. Well "prove" is not appropriate terminology given we're not solving a mathematical equation, but the prevailing wisdom of the time was that Balls was a very strong player in S3, probably edging Voyboy for best NA toplaner. Some sort of analysis beyond just "well my opinion is that he was shit" is needed for an argument to the contrary. The burden is on the accuser and all. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Just because everyone in na was shit doesn't mean balls wasn't better than them. Even if he wasn't world class or w/e he was still better than everyone in na. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 24 2015 18:33 Plexa wrote: idk regardless of balls' current or former skill, I have made respect for a guy who takes the kind of criticism he got on the chin, work his ass off during the boot camp and deliver pretty good results during worlds. Indeed. It is kinda absurd that Balls got into the crossfire because he played more than anyone else in Korean boot camp. He should have been commended for it. And there were plenty of players that had worse ranking than him. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
It is kinda absurd that Balls got into the crossfire because he played more than anyone else in Korean boot camp. He should have been commended for it. People didn't criticize his effort, they made fun of his poor performance, hence the D2 memes. Also hard effort isn't what sets pros apart from normal players, it's talent and ability, which often shows correlates with how well you do in soloQ. No one wants a try hard Bronze player over a gifted Diamond player. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 24 2015 22:19 DarkCore wrote: People didn't criticize his effort, they made fun of his poor performance, hence the D2 memes. Also hard effort isn't what sets pros apart from normal players, it's talent and ability, which often shows correlates with how well you do in soloQ. No one wants a try hard Bronze player over a gifted Diamond player. His performance was not poor though. For example Zionspartan and 4/5 Origen players were ranked below him. Balls was slightly below average. Again Balls was simply singled out because he had more games. D2 memes was because of all this Jatt stuff blowing up on Reddit. What is a worrying trend though is that people now believe Balls actually performed poorly in Korean soloQ because of some memes. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
bring my boy InsanityXXX in, plays all roles all champions Oh wow I just checked his lolking. Who is this guy? Streamer? Random challenger? | ||
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NotMeEver
United States100 Posts
On October 24 2015 22:25 Redox wrote: His performance was not poor though. For example Zionspartan and 4/5 Origen players were ranked below him. Balls was slightly below average. Again Balls was simply singled out because he had more games. D2 memes was because of all this Jatt stuff blowing up on Reddit. What is a worrying trend though is that people now believe Balls actually performed poorly in Korean soloQ because of some memes. But he played more games than any of those players ranked with/below him, because C9 left singificantly earlier to bootcamp. And, in any case, it was not the fact that he was in D2 that caused people to criticize him. It was the fact that this followed up a very poor LCS season, when he was worse than all but perhaps 2 of his fellow top laners in NA, despite not having farm filtered away from him and towards his mid/ADC teammates nearly to the level of players who tended to perform as well. Him being stuck in D2 was merely confirmation that his struggles in LCS were not just how his team played around him, but, in fact, at least partly based on his mindset and skill level. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On October 24 2015 22:25 Redox wrote: His performance was not poor though. For example Zionspartan and 4/5 Origen players were ranked below him. Balls was slightly below average. Again Balls was simply singled out because he had more games. D2 memes was because of all this Jatt stuff blowing up on Reddit. What is a worrying trend though is that people now believe Balls actually performed poorly in Korean soloQ because of some memes. ?? Zion was in Master almost immediately? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 24 2015 23:08 NotMeEver wrote: But he played more games than any of those players ranked with/below him, because C9 left singificantly earlier to bootcamp. And, in any case, it was not the fact that he was in D2 that caused people to criticize him. It was the fact that this followed up a very poor LCS season, when he was worse than all but perhaps 2 of his fellow top laners in NA, despite not having farm filtered away from him and towards his mid/ADC teammates nearly to the level of players who tended to perform as well. Him being stuck in D2 was merely confirmation that his struggles in LCS were not just how his team played around him, but, in fact, at least partly based on his mindset and skill level. The real issue was that as far as bootcamping teams go, he was in a group with Huni who was able to get to a much higher rank faster. That's why Jatt singled out balls instead of everybody at D2 and below. It was purely a "look at this D2 shitter" statement. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
And lost it almost immediately? In the end being ranked considerably lower than balls with similar win rate? Fact is Balls did best out of all NA top laners at worlds. | ||
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NotMeEver
United States100 Posts
On October 25 2015 02:36 Redox wrote: And lost it almost immediately? In the end being ranked considerably lower than balls with similar win rate? Fact is Balls did best out of all NA top laners at worlds. That's... really unimpressive. I mean, at least he was the least bad of perhaps the absolute worst classification of players by role per region at Worlds? | ||
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