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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 04 2015 02:59 GMT
#661
I guess the question is when are you using the skirmisher? Usually you should be timing your gank when you have the numbers advantage, and if that's the case then it's more important to land the CC for the burst, than it is to do more damage. The # of scenarios that pop up where skirmisher is more useful in a game than stalker's is a much less than vice versa. With exception of stuff that synergies well with skirmishers, like WW. I think that's why we tend to see stalker's quite a bit more often than skirmisher.

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the real reason is cuz you can smite people to death for the ultimate BM.
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 03:18:58
February 04 2015 03:17 GMT
#662
On February 04 2015 11:59 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess the question is when are you using the skirmisher? Usually you should be timing your gank when you have the numbers advantage, and if that's the case then it's more important to land the CC for the burst, than it is to do more damage. The # of scenarios that pop up where skirmisher is more useful in a game than stalker's is a much less than vice versa. With exception of stuff that synergies well with skirmishers, like WW. I think that's why we tend to see stalker's quite a bit more often than skirmisher.

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the real reason is cuz you can smite people to death for the ultimate BM.


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I already kill people with Stalker's Blade Smite for my ultimate BM.


I just don't see Skirmishers being better than Stalkers on 98% of the current "viable" jungle pool. The ones that would benefit the most from it are ones who gain something from the DoT and damage reduction. In my eyes it's basically only Aatrox, Sejuani, and Warwick.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 04 2015 03:25 GMT
#663
So then I'm guessing no one gets poachers either? I was playing a game with friends last night. We're low elo. The Shaco had poachers and just ran around my jungle. Every few minutes I had to be like "guys don't worry about it, I'm just telling you where he is, stay in lane and get your cs." I think it would work better in an uncoordinated yolo queue game where everyone's not on skype.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 04 2015 03:30 GMT
#664
idk I think if anyone buys it it's for the mini exaust, I actually would say that it specifically does not favor auto attack based heros because the dot is reset with subsequent hits, that and cutlass was always a rush item on Aatrox anyway, so yea I don't think it's good on him either.

however I think it would be useful for him in the situation that it is your job to prevent a kat from ulting, I actually think it's good on a lot of junglers if it comes down to you to be the one to get it done. sometimes the threat of kat is can you get to her without giving up a reset and this could help, and slows aren't super effective against kat anyway

idk just throwing out an idea, Diamond seems to like it, not sure why though
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 04 2015 04:14 GMT
#665
Poachers is worst thing in game ever existed since double malady.
There was cool idea on reddit to give poachers either movement speed in enemy jungle or at least, ward, but nay.

Stalkers/trailblazer are just way superior and don't require half of team to cover your ass all the time.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 04 2015 04:18 GMT
#666
To be fair, as long as your team has some decent vision management, Poachers can be nice to take a couple camps since you can swap it out. Nothing I'd sit on unless your team gets so far ahead that they can't stop you from poaching anyway. Even then it's probably a win-more though.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 04 2015 04:40 GMT
#667
On February 04 2015 13:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Poachers is worst thing in game ever existed since double malady.
There was cool idea on reddit to give poachers either movement speed in enemy jungle or at least, ward, but nay.

Stalkers/trailblazer are just way superior and don't require half of team to cover your ass all the time.

Poacher's would be pretty good if the jungle had way lower health like in s4, so you could pop it, and steal camps in like 2 seconds, but now since it takes a while to do camps in the first few clears, it's not very good, especially since if you invade unsuccessfully you have to deal with another Jungler's smite who gives combat stats.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 04 2015 05:13 GMT
#668
On February 04 2015 13:40 wei2coolman wrote:
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On February 04 2015 13:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Poachers is worst thing in game ever existed since double malady.
There was cool idea on reddit to give poachers either movement speed in enemy jungle or at least, ward, but nay.

Stalkers/trailblazer are just way superior and don't require half of team to cover your ass all the time.

Poacher's would be pretty good if the jungle had way lower health like in s4, so you could pop it, and steal camps in like 2 seconds, but now since it takes a while to do camps in the first few clears, it's not very good, especially since if you invade unsuccessfully you have to deal with another Jungler's smite who gives combat stats.

Depends on your warding. Deep wards fuck over soloq junglers so hard.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 04 2015 05:58 GMT
#669
On February 04 2015 13:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Poachers is worst thing in game ever existed since double malady.
There was cool idea on reddit to give poachers either movement speed in enemy jungle or at least, ward, but nay.

Stalkers/trailblazer are just way superior and don't require half of team to cover your ass all the time.

oh Malady, that brings up memories ^^
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 04 2015 07:33 GMT
#670
Leona will be so freeElo in the next few weeks.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 07:39:18
February 04 2015 07:38 GMT
#671
why leona?

edit: oh, sona skin, got it


i'm still convinced that jungle ad malzahar is actually a thing. you can clear your blue, wolves, red before their jungle even makes it to your red from their first two camps, and if they go straight to red from their first camp you either see it coming with ward and steal their other buff or you just take your third camp and solo dragon anyways
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 04 2015 08:04 GMT
#672
On February 04 2015 16:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
why leona?

edit: oh, sona skin, got it


i'm still convinced that jungle ad malzahar is actually a thing. you can clear your blue, wolves, red before their jungle even makes it to your red from their first two camps, and if they go straight to red from their first camp you either see it coming with ward and steal their other buff or you just take your third camp and solo dragon anyways


Sure, but then you're still playing AD Malzahar.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
February 04 2015 08:39 GMT
#673
Alright I need urf mode to come back for Sona. Specifically after the ultimate skin comes back. You need urf to properly DJ it up.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 04 2015 15:54 GMT
#674
So I tried Skirmishirs on Sejuani in a game.

Shits completely useless, never getting it again. Stalkers 1000x better.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 04 2015 15:57 GMT
#675
On February 05 2015 00:54 Ketara wrote:
So I tried Skirmishirs on Sejuani in a game.

Shits completely useless, never getting it again. Stalkers 1000x better.

Sounds like u just fed one game :p
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jk jk lol don't hurt me!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 04 2015 16:01 GMT
#676
So, it seems like the ladder system just took a dump on literally everybody's mmr for no reason. Rank at your own risk.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 04 2015 16:01 GMT
#677
Nah, I went 5/2/5, but I missed at least 4 kills because I didn't have a smite that slowed people.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 04 2015 16:03 GMT
#678
On February 05 2015 01:01 Gahlo wrote:
So, it seems like the ladder system just took a dump on literally everybody's mmr for no reason. Rank at your own risk.


I remember just a couple days ago "game bashing without proof" was something people were getting warned for in off topic.

What's this about?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 04 2015 16:03 GMT
#679
On February 05 2015 01:03 Ketara wrote:
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On February 05 2015 01:01 Gahlo wrote:
So, it seems like the ladder system just took a dump on literally everybody's mmr for no reason. Rank at your own risk.


I remember just a couple days ago "game bashing without proof" was something people were getting warned for in off topic.

What's this about?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2uqll9/lp_gain_has_got_weird_overnight/
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 04 2015 16:19 GMT
#680
Was wondering why I went from +30 -10 to +20 -30 after a single game lol
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