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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 03 2015 23:03 GMT
#641
On February 04 2015 07:46 AlterKot wrote:
Is 5h a day on your main hobby really that much?

I work 9-5. Especially now with the weather+idle chat at end of day, my days are 7:30-~6 spent on work related stuff. So assuming I want 8 hours of sleep, I get 5.5 hours to cook, shower, do laundry etc.

Spending 5h a day when you have a full time job is really not an option unless you cut sleep.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 03 2015 23:08 GMT
#642
I also work 9-5 and yeah I kinda automatically assumed cutting sleep and I usually try to all the house chores on weekends (doing one big laundry for a full week, cooking for few days in advance etc.) so maybe I'm just more devoted.

And yet still only plat
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 03 2015 23:09 GMT
#643
On February 04 2015 08:03 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 07:46 AlterKot wrote:
Is 5h a day on your main hobby really that much?

I work 9-5. Especially now with the weather+idle chat at end of day, my days are 7:30-~6 spent on work related stuff. So assuming I want 8 hours of sleep, I get 5.5 hours to cook, shower, do laundry etc.

Spending 5h a day when you have a full time job is really not an option unless you cut sleep.

It's more like 2.5h during weekdays, and like 10h on weekends. Yeah it's doable, but it's still a fuckton of hours a week to spend on a video game while working full time.
liftlift > tsm
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 23:16:07
February 03 2015 23:13 GMT
#644
Nvm guess there's already a thread about Kori!
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 03 2015 23:15 GMT
#645
mabye this sounds weird but I actually play more when am working full time/a lot, because when work things aren't going so well or I feel like I need to find more/different work I feel more pressure not to relax and do whatever the fuck I want when I'm at home.
Carrilord has arrived.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 23:38:27
February 03 2015 23:35 GMT
#646
The other thing is that we're essentially assuming that "100 games in 15 days" represents 100% of one's time spent on LoL--which isn't really the case for anyone who's actually posting on a League fansite.

We're basically assuming that "log on->play 6-7 games of solo ranked->log off" is all your League time. If that makes up 5 hours a day, then adding in time spent watching streams, reading/posting on LL/Reddit, and playing occasional casual normals/inhouses probably means your "time spent on LoL" is probably closer to 6-6.5 hours a day, if not way more.
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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 03 2015 23:38 GMT
#647
You read and post while in queue/on loading screen and spend more time on weekends than on weekdays. Also who sleeps 8 hours :>
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 03 2015 23:41 GMT
#648
On February 04 2015 08:38 AlterKot wrote:
You read and post while in queue/on loading screen and spend more time on weekends than on weekdays. Also who sleeps 8 hours :>

Well, it's not always 8 hours at a time, but my general rule is to sleep half the time I was awake in order to feel rested. I imagine I'm not the only one who feels that way.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 03 2015 23:42 GMT
#649
Dunno seems like everyone I know sleeps between 5 and 7.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 03 2015 23:46 GMT
#650
On February 04 2015 08:42 AlterKot wrote:
Dunno seems like everyone I know sleeps between 5 and 7.

How many of them have to get up in the morning?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 03 2015 23:54 GMT
#651
On February 04 2015 08:46 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 08:42 AlterKot wrote:
Dunno seems like everyone I know sleeps between 5 and 7.

How many of them have to get up in the morning?

Most. I don't really want to make it into a discussion since it's extremely OT, it's just that I'm surprised that apparently nocturnality isn't as common among gamers as I thought (and my perception is probably skewed because as person who stays up late I mostly talk to people who also don't sleep much).
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 00:14:05
February 03 2015 23:57 GMT
#652
is there any jungler on which skirmisher is better than stalkers? i tried to make it work on sejuani but after like 8 games with mixed results i went back to stalker and it works so much better its not even funny
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 00:15:19
February 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#653
On February 04 2015 08:57 kongoline wrote:
is there any jungler skirmisher is better than stalkers? i tried to make it work on sejuani but after like 8 games with mixed results i went back to stalker and it works so much better its not even funny


Truly not Sejuani.
For Warwick it's better and probably in some situations when you just want to really duel people 24/7, kind of Fiora.

Thank God, no more insulting Hungrybox. Those 2 days were longer than death.
To previous discussion, actually, I'm sleeping 3-4 hours per day with sleeping in metro between work/university/home.

But meh, saw guys with 300+ games already, sounds worse than Petreaus.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 00:58:38
February 04 2015 00:21 GMT
#654
On February 04 2015 08:57 kongoline wrote:
is there any jungler on which skirmisher is better than stalkers? i tried to make it work on sejuani but after like 8 games with mixed results i went back to stalker and it works so much better its not even funny

I like stalkersSkirmishers. It's a lot of flat damage on Sej and the slow on Stalkers has diminishing returns (although higher range) than your other slows. It just doesn't seem like stalkersskirmishers does much since it's damage mitigation and damage over time.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 00:30:26
February 04 2015 00:29 GMT
#655
Chickens post is confusing.


I really like Stalkers on Sejuani, because the slow from it often lets you get another Q or auto on them, which lets you get another E that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

On Sej I generally start Trailblazer and switch to Stalker after 6.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 00:36:35
February 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#656
+ Show Spoiler +
sleeping less than 6 hours will severely reduce ones mental capacity and will take a heavy toll when done over longer periods of time, noone should do it.
For most people, the right amount of sleep is between 7 and 8 hours.
Noone needs to sleep more then 8 hours on average.


The main difference in sleeping habbits is not the length, its when they sleep, with many people getting tired early and then standing up early as well and the other camp is people liking to stay up late and then wake up late accordingly.
Most companies only cater to the first group and it has been shown that productivity can increase by a lot if you dont socially force nocturnals into the first sleeping schedule and companies begin to have more flexible hours.



I didnt name any sources, you would need to google for studies yourself.
I just want to warn people about their 5 hour sleeping thingies, you might feel ok, but if you would for example take IQ tests or similar, you would do worse than on 7 hours.
And it will also take a toll on your body eventually.

Sleep deprevation for a prolonged period of time can actually affect the mind just as bad as alcohol.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 00:59:47
February 04 2015 00:38 GMT
#657
On February 04 2015 09:29 Ketara wrote:
Chickens post is confusing.


I really like Stalkers on Sejuani, because the slow from it often lets you get another Q or auto on them, which lets you get another E that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

On Sej I generally start Trailblazer and switch to Stalker after 6.

Stalkers is good but I think Skirmishers is probably better. As you said, stalkers allows you to catch up to someone out of range of your Q to apply your other slows.

But if you're using it on a target that you've already slowed then it's not as big of a deal. When applied with any of Sejuani's other slows, like her E or R, it will only slow the target by an additional 7% instead of the full 20%. When applied with her passive it'll only increase the slow from 10% to 23% (20% from skirmishers + 10*.35).

The effect skirmishers provides isn't very noticeable but it's still very strong. It's like Zilean's global passive. When Zilean lost it, he lost 12% on his win rate. No one could say for sure how much of Zilean's strength was tied in his passive until then and it was very unnoticeable. The Riven in top lane that hit level 6 and killed her opponent with it won't thank Zilean.

In addition Stalkers is a very flat amount of damage that helps tanks the most. It doesn't matter how much AD you have or how much attack speed you have, it'll still apply the same amount of damage as long as you get the autoattacks off at the right time. That's why it's really useful on a low-medium damage tank like Sejuani. It gives her a lot more kill potential.

And while the 20% damage reduction isn't very noticeable, its value can't be understated. If you're dueling someone who's invading your jungle and you don't care about the slow or movement speed, the difference between stalkers and skirmishers is night and day.

I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 04 2015 00:39 GMT
#658
On February 04 2015 09:29 Ketara wrote:
Chickens post is confusing.


I really like Stalkers on Sejuani, because the slow from it often lets you get another Q or auto on them, which lets you get another E that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

On Sej I generally start Trailblazer and switch to Stalker after 6.

First and last Stalkers is supposed to be Skirmishers.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 04 2015 00:51 GMT
#659
I am skeptic, but I've never tried Skirmishers before.

I'll try it and tell you what I think.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 04 2015 01:14 GMT
#660
I really enjoy Skirmisher Devourer into full tank on Nautilus.
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