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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 06 2015 13:35 GMT
#1681
Oh well. I guess the rework didn't pan out for her.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 13:45:59
January 06 2015 13:44 GMT
#1682
seems thats the case for most reworked champions lol
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 06 2015 13:59 GMT
#1683
'cause the rework's goal was 100% to balance a broken champion. Yup.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 06 2015 14:05 GMT
#1684
On January 06 2015 22:59 Alaric wrote:
'cause the rework's goal was 100% to balance a broken champion. Yup.

But but but, muh circlejerk.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 14:26:00
January 06 2015 14:22 GMT
#1685
so why does katarina still exist? ~~

User was warned for this post
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 06 2015 14:23 GMT
#1686
On January 06 2015 22:59 Alaric wrote:
'cause the rework's goal was 100% to balance a broken champion. Yup.


I guess calling it a rework is a bit of an overstatement. Not much of her kit was changed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 06 2015 15:20 GMT
#1687
I keep running into irelias that do so much more damage than they ought to. Four out of five irelias, I trade evenly or outtrade, then I meet the ones that just destroy me with no items. Is this some kind of script?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 06 2015 15:23 GMT
#1688
On January 07 2015 00:20 Osmoses wrote:
I keep running into irelias that do so much more damage than they ought to. Four out of five irelias, I trade evenly or outtrade, then I meet the ones that just destroy me with no items. Is this some kind of script?

Max E + Sheen brings the phat burst.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 06 2015 15:24 GMT
#1689
That's what all Irelias run, but only one in five does this kind of damage.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 15:34:35
January 06 2015 15:33 GMT
#1690
Well maybe you play another champion or fuck up or run into a huge minion wave 1/5 of the time. I don't think all Irelia go E max though (and I'd still max W in match-ups that let me whack you), depends on your level (eg. I don't think it's trickled down all the way yet).
I should check wether E max Irelia beats Fiora. I guess you lose less damage from Riposte blocking one Hiten Style auto, and she loses a bit from being stunned longer during her E steroid.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 16:06:46
January 06 2015 16:06 GMT
#1691
I had level 1 Leaver penalty in the past due to my shirtty internet connection. Is it possible for me to get mystery gift from riot?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 06 2015 16:08 GMT
#1692
I bet all the Mystery Gifts are shit.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 06 2015 16:24 GMT
#1693
Ahri's new portrait has like... wonky eyes? I don't know how to describe it
Bronze player stuck in platinum
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 06 2015 16:26 GMT
#1694
Bahaha the best thing they could have done is zoom in on Tristana's face loool
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
January 06 2015 16:32 GMT
#1695
On January 06 2015 22:09 M2 wrote:
For what I understand you can swap (tier 2) jungle items for free now. Need sustain go purple, need to gank take blue :-) looks a little weird to me.


Wow, interesting. So I guess the real thing to do now is to build your first jungle item, build the path to the enchantment you want and then decide if you want to switch or not before you get the gold to do the enchant buy.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 06 2015 16:58 GMT
#1696
Everyone post what they got for the free mystery gift
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5147 Posts
January 06 2015 17:13 GMT
#1697
Anyone who knows him in and out know if the Renekton numbers are a buff or not?
Taxes are for Terrans
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 06 2015 17:28 GMT
#1698
On January 06 2015 22:59 Alaric wrote:
'cause the rework's goal was 100% to balance a broken champion. Yup.


Its supposed to make the reworked champion easier to balance long-term, in a sustained way. The gold standards for that would be Orianna, Nami,Cait, etc.

The problem with the rework team is similar to the problem with the initial champion design team: they seem to not coordinate with the balance team to output a champion that will work with that team's vision. The same problem with say, ZAC and reworked Olaf is that they need a very specific amount of tankiness at each point of the game to operate properly (neither totally OP, or useless) and small shifts in the meta, items, and fotm champions can push them over the edge in either direction.
Freeeeeeedom
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#1699
On January 06 2015 07:28 Lost My Will To Live wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:53 Sponkz wrote:
On January 05 2015 07:27 Goumindong wrote:
Ok suppose we have three variables y,x and z. And we want to run a model to figure out y=xB+ e. Let y and e be a nx1 vector and x and z be nxk and B be kx1 vector. E is our error term. We assume x'e = 0 x'z and z'y =\= 0.

If we solve y=xB +e for B we multiply by x' and invert and get B=(x'x)^-1 x'y Ok pretty simple.

But if we have y= xB+zG+e instead (and G isn't zero by z'y is not zero). Then we do the operation and get B= (x'x)^-1 x'y + (x'x)^-1 x'zG. The last term of which is bias.

You may say "but I am not doing a regression" and he answer is that yes, you are, you just have a specific form of the x matrix which lets you separate everything. But it doesn't nullify the bias problem. Which will exist if dragons correlate with gold and if dragons correlate with winning. Now, you can definitely check to see if dragons correlate with gold and if it doesn't you're golden. But we know that they correlate with winning (first dragon has what kind of win %?)

*technically we are working on expectations but I don't want to bother writing that out over and over again.



I know i only got a D in math, but holy shit that post is pure garbage. You're throwing equations here and there, but you aren't making ANY sense.

D in math =/= Economist

Guomindong is an economist. It's his job to come up with theoretical bullshit that doesn't mean anything.



I really thought long and hard, how i would respond to Gourmindog after that long math wall, but then i gave up. I don't think he understood, what it was that i didn't understand (it wasn't the math). But it's alright, I'm still alive! NAISU
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 06 2015 18:54 GMT
#1700
Na, that'd be grossly biased to simply view it this way, but also idealistic. You can't have the game 100% balanced at all times for all champions.

If you reworked Udyr and he ended up still being shit against poke/kite/disengage comps, that doesn't mean the rework failed or that they didn't coordinate with the live design team, even if said rework went live during a patch which had that meta popular. You can't have all champions strong all the time.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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