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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 28 2014 00:40 GMT
#1121
On December 28 2014 09:25 AsnSensation wrote:
Have the KOR/CN teams played any official matches yet? I saw on esportscalender that EDG is playing Team King tomorrow and I don't know anything about Team King but EDG should still be favourites right?

Korea had a preseason, but I wouldn't put too much stock into it because of musical chairing subs. I think I heard there was a small tournament in China that happened, but nothing as far as meaning anything for worlds qualifications.

On December 28 2014 03:37 nobodywonder wrote:
Lol is a strategy game. There are a lot of little intangibles or intricacies that can help you be a better player.

- Guys, I'm constantly losing my lane for some reason, any help?

Like for this quote, there's probably not just some reason, but many reasons such as warding, trading, cs'ing, watching the map, etc. It's up to the player to recognize these mistakes and try to get better than some of them.

Coming from Starcraft II, I do have to note that it's much harder to improve in LoL, because the absence of a good replay system, less high level commentary/analysis (ex. Day9 holy shit he will talk about one little nuance for 10+ mins that distinguishes a great player from a good player), and the crazy numbers of champions and matchups to master.

Replay is really a non-excuse anymore with op.gg. Like, yeah, League should have it's own replay system built in, especially since it's been on the PBE for almost 2 years now, but it not being built in doesn't STOP you.

On December 28 2014 03:43 Nemireck wrote:
Thorin's mechanics video is kind of a disappointment. He sits there and talks about how Genja and Sneaky have good mechanics but low skill (but the skill is made up with good mechanics because they don't try to play outside of their skill level?). But all that means is that they don't have great mechanics and they make up for it by playing more cerebral, positioning well, and avoiding the dangerous areas that players with better mechanics can succeed in. If they actually had better mechanics, they would be able to do the same things he talks about when discussing, for instance, Uzi.

His overarching point about separating mechanics and cerebral play is ok, but his examples don't match the message he's trying to get across. He talks about these players playing within their mechanical limitations, and then says they have good mechanics. But the reality is that they have weaker mechanics, recognize the fact, and so don't try to overstep their actual abilities (ie. strong cerebral play, like he says about Lemonation). I don't think he understands what mechanics actually are, which I believe is a touch ironic considering the point he's trying to get across.


My favorite definition of mechanics when it pertains to League is your ability to make your champion do what you want it to. It's a player's ability to understand their talents and limitations and work that into their play style so they're the most effective that they can be that defines who has good mechanics and who doesn't.

On December 28 2014 02:15 JonnyLaw wrote:
Eli Manning has been the worst starting qb statistically for three or four years. He's built well and had an amazing defense with a botched call at the end of a Super Bowl which means he cannot be fired.

I agree coaching and upbringing are important traits but Eli isn't your best example in US sports. If there was only one Manning son it's great example but Peyton has a brother in the NFL.

Matthews family. They've had around a handful of good to hall of fame level players and the worst one is a decent backup(doesn't help that he's also a little undersized for his position).
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 00:48:29
December 28 2014 00:43 GMT
#1122
On December 28 2014 08:55 Slusher wrote:
Want some opinions on worst hero in the game on this patch. To avoid the all heros have strengths reply i will pose it like this. If you played a game of solo q with 100$ on the line and as a handicap you could pick one hero the opposing team had to pick (but not role)

Give reasoning if possible


As a Teemo main, I'd say Teemo.

most people are just fucking trash at teemo matchups, and a lot of the tanky-outscale-you AP champs give teemo trouble come late game if he didn't run his lane over. if the enemy team HAD to play teemo, chances are no one on that team is good enough to carry. Teemo has a pretty awful team fight if even or behind. Only the dedicated sadists play teemo still.

Knowing they are picking teemo, you're free to hard counter with jayce/pantheon, soft counter with maokai/ryze and out scale as early as RoA, or just camp top as jungler pre-6 and get your laner so far ahead teemo can't 1v1.

Id argue that KNOWING a teemo pick is coming before the game starts allows you much stronger ways to force favorable situations than almost any other hero pick.


"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 28 2014 01:04 GMT
#1123
Obviously Urgot...? He's terrible and nobody plays him.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 28 2014 01:11 GMT
#1124
On December 28 2014 10:04 GolemMadness wrote:
Obviously Urgot...? He's terrible and nobody plays him.


Slusher played him on the other day. Carrying him was a pain
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 28 2014 01:14 GMT
#1125
--- Nuked ---
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 28 2014 01:37 GMT
#1126
On December 28 2014 10:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 10:04 GolemMadness wrote:
Obviously Urgot...? He's terrible and nobody plays him.


Slusher played him on the other day. Carrying him was a pain

You know we have a 100% winrate in games after you tell me people are dodging us become of my picks
Carrilord has arrived.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 28 2014 03:50 GMT
#1127
http://www.twitch.tv/middaystar

plugging stream.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 28 2014 04:18 GMT
#1128
TIL Amui is a girl
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 28 2014 04:20 GMT
#1129
His summoner name is in his sig bro.
Carrilord has arrived.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 28 2014 04:21 GMT
#1130
On December 28 2014 13:18 Sufficiency wrote:
TIL Amui is a girl

I'm actually one of the guys in the background lol.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 28 2014 04:28 GMT
#1131
I got Amui in trouble.

Worth.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 28 2014 08:05 GMT
#1132
Is there an english stream for edg vs kig?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 11:26:10
December 28 2014 11:14 GMT
#1133
On December 28 2014 17:05 AsnSensation wrote:
Is there an english stream for edg vs kig?

No I don't think anyone from LPLen is around to cast it.
Fun fact: King's top laner has never lost a game on irelia
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 12:27:41
December 28 2014 11:36 GMT
#1134
On December 28 2014 20:14 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 17:05 AsnSensation wrote:
Is there an english stream for edg vs kig?

No I don't think anyone from LPLen is around to cast it.
Fun fact: King's top laner has never lost a game on irelia


thx for the info.

Pretty cool to see that edg still turned that around although imo their comp was not ideal and they got baited into liss several times, but tbf her selfult and hourglass are a bitch. Good to see that my boy Pawn is still in top shape though.

woah pawn lastpicked tf into fizz. let's see how this works out.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
December 28 2014 12:59 GMT
#1135
does anyone have experience with selling a league of legends account?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 14:16:30
December 28 2014 13:39 GMT
#1136
On December 28 2014 21:59 IMoperator wrote:
does anyone have experience with selling a league of legends account?

No but you're gonna sell it together with the e-mail it was created with, otherwise noone will risk. I've meet several people that bought LoL accounts and then lost it, because if You do own the e-mail you can get it back any moment by sending ticket to support and lying that your account got stolen.

Edit :

New champion will be Izuna, his skills will be based on lightning, and his ulti will be like Nocturnes. It will call down a storm that cuts vision and will allow Izuna to call down a massive lightning strike on one opponent.
I don't know who the ultimate skin will be for, they are keeping that knowledge tightly wrapped, but our first teaser will be on January 10th.


Zeus in LoL? Seems interesting, I'd love to see lightning champ like this in next few patches.

Edit 2 : This guy makes me learn Azir so much.

+ Show Spoiler +
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 28 2014 14:16 GMT
#1137
I'd bet it'd be a lot more like Moxie than zeus. they needed a lightning mage after kennen's kind of fallen into one of the worst in the game.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 28 2014 14:18 GMT
#1138
On December 28 2014 23:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
I'd bet it'd be a lot more like Moxie than zeus. they needed a lightning mage after kennen's kind of fallen into one of the worst in the game.


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2qm8pd/all_what_you_need_to_know_about_izuna_new/

Sounds interesting. Another energy champion, doh.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 28 2014 14:33 GMT
#1139
I hope they re-balance all the energy champs so they have actual costs. only half of them do right now, the rest pretty much can spam on cooldown and not run out.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 28 2014 14:34 GMT
#1140
It's not about Kennen (although a cd reduction on his ult would help a bunch, esp. since CDR has capped usefulness on energy champions, contrary to Viktor who could still rune CDR for his own ult before the change), it's about the kind of teamfighting AoE mage and/or lack of wave clearing which aren't popular/very strong atm.
Game needs real hard initiation (Malphite, Amumu, Sejuani, etc.) to become more usable again, something the current state of the jungle and archetypes looked for in the off lane don't really help. Or at the least they're far from optimal, which is enough to make them undesirable in a competitive context.

Although since you can't buff something like Brand or Malzahar without basically making them assassin-like in burst and OP, you'd have to either give these champions mana/utility buffs, which is harder to do than simple numbers, or nerf the damage from these assassins/wave-clearing/AoE nukers champions so that if they're supposed to be assassins their AoE damage isn't on par with dedicated AoE mages ('sup Ahri), or so that their damage isn't easily comboable to almost 100-0 people ('sup Ziggs) despite that not being their goal.
It'd take a pretty wide balance pass to help these old mages and that's a can of worms I don't think Riot's ready to open, so as long as their "casual" win rate doesn't stray too far from 50% (or they aren't popular enough that dropping super low incites bad player reaction) there's no incentive for them to touch them ever anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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