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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 29 2014 00:48 GMT
#1161
Sneaky > Doublelift for sure but people hyping Piglet up so hard for no reason. Until Curse wins Spring or Piglet is consistently carrying them every game he'll just be another washed up Korean coming to NA instead of retiring.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 29 2014 00:48 GMT
#1162
On December 29 2014 09:47 GolemMadness wrote:
I don't think you can say a whole lot from IEM. I mean they had a challenger jungler. Things got off to a pretty bad start when he gave Diamond that double kill mid.

I don't even consider preseason events for teams with new players on them.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 29 2014 00:56 GMT
#1163
On December 29 2014 09:48 overt wrote:
Sneaky > Doublelift for sure but people hyping Piglet up so hard for no reason. Until Curse wins Spring or Piglet is consistently carrying them every game he'll just be another washed up Korean coming to NA instead of retiring.


There's a pretty big difference between an adc who used to be on the best team in world with a series of accolades and championships both globally and in by far the strongest region in the world.

... and somebody like doublelift
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2014 01:23 GMT
#1164
I keep seeing people saying that Altec is a top 2 ADC and it confuses me. Like, what has he done to put him above any of the established ADC's?
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 29 2014 01:33 GMT
#1165
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
December 29 2014 01:34 GMT
#1166
Dlift still best ADC in NA. Sneaky only looks so great because he has a full team that can back him up. Dlift only has a support.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 29 2014 01:39 GMT
#1167
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 29 2014 01:40 GMT
#1168
Sneaky was pulling his fucking weight at IEM.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 29 2014 01:43 GMT
#1169
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 29 2014 01:50 GMT
#1170
I just brought that up because it was their most recent tournament and it had most of the Season 5 stuff implemented. He's been playing incredibly well for a while.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 29 2014 01:53 GMT
#1171
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 02:23:51
December 29 2014 02:21 GMT
#1172
In my eyes, the all NA ADCs are pretty similar in terms of skill. Why? Because in this current meta, ADCs have very little time to shine and are so reliant on their team.

During the laning phase, they are either 2v1 or 2v0 in a lane with zero pressure and their sole purpose is to deny farm from the enemy top lane by freezing or pushing the tower + harassing. The other scenario is a standard 2v2, which most people would argue is dictated by the support landing that crucial skillshot. Rarely do we see a ADC dominate another ADC in a standard lane unless a support makes a big play, most of the time we see 10-20 cs discrepancies which have little impact as the game drags on.

The real moment an ADC can prove his worth in my opinion, is how well he plays during teamfights. Most of these fights start around contesting the dragon objective, which again, is entirely dependent on team coordination and positioning and how well laners use the slight advantages they gained in lane. Frequently we see ADCs either rack up kill after kill or simply fall short and die to all the threats the enemy team has, setting the pace for the rest of the game. The next time they have an opportunity is usually when the enemy team makes a mistake like going for a risky baron/tower dive or turtle long enough to hit 6 items and win a teamfight then push to win.

Sneaky is a prime example of the type of ADC who is quite lax in the lane phase(unless Lemonnation gets a nice bind/hook/bubble off) but excels in teamfighting. With C9's team coordination and skirmish prowess, he is able to get fed off these early dragon fights and snowball the rest of the game. This I feel is something that all Double, Piglet, Altec, etc. are capable of doing, if only their team played like C9 does when they are on top of their game.

TLDR: -All ADCs can last hit and harass, what matters most is teamfighting and positioning
-if there were 10 C9's then every ADC would be the best, equally.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 29 2014 02:54 GMT
#1173
did someone just compare piglet hype to doublelift LOL
Bronze player stuck in platinum
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 03:02:26
December 29 2014 03:00 GMT
#1174
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 29 2014 03:06 GMT
#1175
Doublelift will tear Piglet apart.

I actually can't wait to watch Piglet along with Quas, IWD and FeniX :DD We will see if he's really good or he was just part of a good team.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 29 2014 03:21 GMT
#1176
I actually think Piglet is still good enough to be the best ADC in NA, I just went with Sneaky because if you include imports/other regions DL isn't even in the conversation anymore.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 03:25:13
December 29 2014 03:23 GMT
#1177
i really hope piglet can find his form again but he seems like a very emotional player. prone to tilting and hothead plays. he should also expand his champ pool.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 29 2014 03:23 GMT
#1178
DL is top5 carry NA
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 29 2014 03:31 GMT
#1179
On December 29 2014 12:23 oneofthem wrote:
i really hope piglet can find his form again but he seems like a very emotional player. prone to tilting and hothead plays. he should also expand his champ pool.

Well one thing I know for certain is he won't be frustrated with Xpecial for not tryharding like he was with Mandu.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
December 29 2014 03:56 GMT
#1180
On December 29 2014 12:06 Mensol wrote:
Doublelift will tear Piglet apart.

I actually can't wait to watch Piglet along with Quas, IWD and FeniX :DD We will see if he's really good or he was just part of a good team.


He was really good, he already proved that. The only thing we'll see is if he still gives a fuck or if he's moving to NA because you don't have to maintain the same level of ability to continue making $$$.
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