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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I mean you could say Garen is bad. Or you could replace his Q speed-up with a non-targeted dash and see how much better he fares. Thing is for things such as the knock-x spam, Riot themselves said "it feels more visceral and you understand that you're cc'd better than with just a stun icon", so obviously even if it fucks with all kind of move blocks and isn't affected by tenacity and generally makes it much harder to close in on people it's the right thing to do to keep introducing them over stuns, or if you want non-tenacity affected cc suppressions (suppressions are actually weaker because QSS works on them). That Azir montage taught me that the hitbox for his E knocking-up is a circle around him and that as such standing behind the soldier won't necessarily protect you from his dash. That first play with Talon clipped twice by the ult so he was cc'd twice as long was painful though. x_x And I still don't get why his ult needs to deal damage considering the massive utility it brings (and the burst from Q-right-click), what with the extremely high dps he has past a point for a mage. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 28 2014 23:35 PrinceXizor wrote: Kennen fell off before his niche did though. he's just not good because he's super unreliable against anyone with mobility, and his laning is significantly worse. Isn't he also one of the only energy champions without a real dash?`It hurts him so much, imagine if E could be used to "dash" to a target giving the passive or something alike. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 28 2014 23:48 Alaric wrote: That's not Kennen specifically then. That's the fuckton of mobility of knock-ups/backs introduced in the game ever since that fucks anyone reliant on non-dashes and proximity to deal damage. I mean you could say Garen is bad. Or you could replace his Q speed-up with a non-targeted dash and see how much better he fares. Thing is for things such as the knock-x spam, Riot themselves said "it feels more visceral and you understand that you're cc'd better than with just a stun icon", so obviously even if it fucks with all kind of move blocks and isn't affected by tenacity and generally makes it much harder to close in on people it's the right thing to do to keep introducing them over stuns, or if you want non-tenacity affected cc suppressions (suppressions are actually weaker because QSS works on them). garen is in a better place than kennen. he's just. bad. at least urgot has a timing after he gets muramana where he walks all over everyone. Kennen just has layers of sadness around a core of i used to be something wrapped in terrible art assets. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
Non-mana ranged top lane that works as both damage and team disrupt.. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
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kongoline
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 28 2014 23:48 Alaric wrote: That's not Kennen specifically then. That's the fuckton of mobility of knock-ups/backs introduced in the game ever since that fucks anyone reliant on non-dashes and proximity to deal damage. I mean you could say Garen is bad. Or you could replace his Q speed-up with a non-targeted dash and see how much better he fares. Thing is for things such as the knock-x spam, Riot themselves said "it feels more visceral and you understand that you're cc'd better than with just a stun icon", so obviously even if it fucks with all kind of move blocks and isn't affected by tenacity and generally makes it much harder to close in on people it's the right thing to do to keep introducing them over stuns, or if you want non-tenacity affected cc suppressions (suppressions are actually weaker because QSS works on them). That Azir montage taught me that the hitbox for his E knocking-up is a circle around him and that as such standing behind the soldier won't necessarily protect you from his dash. That first play with Talon clipped twice by the ult so he was cc'd twice as long was painful though. x_x And I still don't get why his ult needs to deal damage considering the massive utility it brings (and the burst from Q-right-click), what with the extremely high dps he has past a point for a mage.  Garen is awesome! | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
We are almost in 2015 and protect the Doublelift is still the best strat. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 29 2014 09:25 Paljas wrote: best adc on clg I'm not too sure about that. Over the past few years he might have been the worst ADC on CLG. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Wise words from Doubleliftu. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 29 2014 09:38 Slusher wrote: Hard to be sure without personally knowing the players but i think id take sneaky (if were going na only) he isn't as good but he appears from my vantage point to play with the team better, more than the skill difference between the two It doesn't help that CLG does an awful job putting the pieces around Doublelift required to win anything. Link is miss more often than hit and top lane is a turnstile. Outside of Dexter they haven't had a decent jungler since Saint. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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