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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 14:35:27
December 28 2014 14:35 GMT
#1141
Kennen fell off before his niche did though. he's just not good because he's super unreliable against anyone with mobility, and his laning is significantly worse.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 15:00:10
December 28 2014 14:48 GMT
#1142
That's not Kennen specifically then. That's the fuckton of mobility of knock-ups/backs introduced in the game ever since that fucks anyone reliant on non-dashes and proximity to deal damage.

I mean you could say Garen is bad. Or you could replace his Q speed-up with a non-targeted dash and see how much better he fares. Thing is for things such as the knock-x spam, Riot themselves said "it feels more visceral and you understand that you're cc'd better than with just a stun icon", so obviously even if it fucks with all kind of move blocks and isn't affected by tenacity and generally makes it much harder to close in on people it's the right thing to do to keep introducing them over stuns, or if you want non-tenacity affected cc suppressions (suppressions are actually weaker because QSS works on them).


That Azir montage taught me that the hitbox for his E knocking-up is a circle around him and that as such standing behind the soldier won't necessarily protect you from his dash. That first play with Talon clipped twice by the ult so he was cc'd twice as long was painful though. x_x And I still don't get why his ult needs to deal damage considering the massive utility it brings (and the burst from Q-right-click), what with the extremely high dps he has past a point for a mage.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 28 2014 14:51 GMT
#1143
On December 28 2014 23:35 PrinceXizor wrote:
Kennen fell off before his niche did though. he's just not good because he's super unreliable against anyone with mobility, and his laning is significantly worse.


Isn't he also one of the only energy champions without a real dash?`It hurts him so much, imagine if E could be used to "dash" to a target giving the passive or something alike.
hi
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 14:57:48
December 28 2014 14:54 GMT
#1144
On December 28 2014 23:48 Alaric wrote:
That's not Kennen specifically then. That's the fuckton of mobility of knock-ups/backs introduced in the game ever since that fucks anyone reliant on non-dashes and proximity to deal damage.

I mean you could say Garen is bad. Or you could replace his Q speed-up with a non-targeted dash and see how much better he fares. Thing is for things such as the knock-x spam, Riot themselves said "it feels more visceral and you understand that you're cc'd better than with just a stun icon", so obviously even if it fucks with all kind of move blocks and isn't affected by tenacity and generally makes it much harder to close in on people it's the right thing to do to keep introducing them over stuns, or if you want non-tenacity affected cc suppressions (suppressions are actually weaker because QSS works on them).

garen is in a better place than kennen. he's just. bad. at least urgot has a timing after he gets muramana where he walks all over everyone. Kennen just has layers of sadness around a core of i used to be something wrapped in terrible art assets.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
December 28 2014 15:36 GMT
#1145
Kennen basically got replaced by Gnar.
Non-mana ranged top lane that works as both damage and team disrupt..
Stop procrastinating
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 28 2014 15:41 GMT
#1146
Kennen kills you. Gnar isn't supposed to (but base damage).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 28 2014 15:45 GMT
#1147
Kennen doesn't kill anyone anymore.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 28 2014 17:05 GMT
#1148
The only thing Kennen kills is his team's chances of winning.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 28 2014 18:06 GMT
#1149
u people are crazy after recent buffs kennen ult is ridiculous its like moving amumu ult right now
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 29 2014 00:03 GMT
#1150
On December 28 2014 23:48 Alaric wrote:
That's not Kennen specifically then. That's the fuckton of mobility of knock-ups/backs introduced in the game ever since that fucks anyone reliant on non-dashes and proximity to deal damage.

I mean you could say Garen is bad. Or you could replace his Q speed-up with a non-targeted dash and see how much better he fares. Thing is for things such as the knock-x spam, Riot themselves said "it feels more visceral and you understand that you're cc'd better than with just a stun icon", so obviously even if it fucks with all kind of move blocks and isn't affected by tenacity and generally makes it much harder to close in on people it's the right thing to do to keep introducing them over stuns, or if you want non-tenacity affected cc suppressions (suppressions are actually weaker because QSS works on them).


That Azir montage taught me that the hitbox for his E knocking-up is a circle around him and that as such standing behind the soldier won't necessarily protect you from his dash. That first play with Talon clipped twice by the ult so he was cc'd twice as long was painful though. x_x And I still don't get why his ult needs to deal damage considering the massive utility it brings (and the burst from Q-right-click), what with the extremely high dps he has past a point for a mage.



Garen is awesome!
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 29 2014 00:05 GMT
#1151
How can Doublelift be so consistent? I stopped playing for like one year then came back, he's still the best adc

We are almost in 2015 and protect the Doublelift is still the best strat.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 29 2014 00:19 GMT
#1152
Best strat - has won 0 things
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2014 00:23 GMT
#1153
Doublelift's the best ADC?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 29 2014 00:25 GMT
#1154
best adc on clg
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 29 2014 00:26 GMT
#1155
On December 29 2014 09:25 Paljas wrote:
best adc on clg

I'm not too sure about that. Over the past few years he might have been the worst ADC on CLG.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 29 2014 00:34 GMT
#1156


Wise words from Doubleliftu.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 00:37:46
December 29 2014 00:37 GMT
#1157
The 4th best adc in the weakest region in the world - what a god
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 29 2014 00:38 GMT
#1158
Hard to be sure without personally knowing the players but i think id take sneaky (if were going na only) he isn't as good but he appears from my vantage point to play with the team better, more than the skill difference between the two
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 29 2014 00:42 GMT
#1159
On December 29 2014 09:38 Slusher wrote:
Hard to be sure without personally knowing the players but i think id take sneaky (if were going na only) he isn't as good but he appears from my vantage point to play with the team better, more than the skill difference between the two

It doesn't help that CLG does an awful job putting the pieces around Doublelift required to win anything. Link is miss more often than hit and top lane is a turnstile. Outside of Dexter they haven't had a decent jungler since Saint.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2014 00:47 GMT
#1160
I don't think you can say a whole lot from IEM. I mean they had a challenger jungler. Things got off to a pretty bad start when he gave Diamond that double kill mid.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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