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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
December 17 2014 04:29 GMT
#501
Oh.

I understand why hitting Corki's Q is so much harder in lane. Where before it was an easy hit against any AD with equal or less range whenever you could auto them, now if you auto -> back off and corki casts phos bomb at max range, you're just barely out of range when the bomb explodes.

Tiny change but it makes an enormous difference in the lane phase since corki's poke is much weaker and less reliable.

Didn't think much of it when the patch came in but now that I've played him a few games it's actually a sizable laning nerf. In any extended fight it's still easy enough to hit though.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 17 2014 04:35 GMT
#502
wait is John Galt back in the states?
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
December 17 2014 04:36 GMT
#503
On December 17 2014 13:35 Slusher wrote:
wait is John Galt back in the states?

Yibbity yip.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 05:16:26
December 17 2014 05:16 GMT
#504
Damn. Marmy managed to share 180 gold as Thresh support using Relic Shield at 20th minute....

I think I died a little inside.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 17 2014 05:20 GMT
#505
idk I suck balls at relic shield so I can't criticize
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 17 2014 05:41 GMT
#506
On December 17 2014 14:20 Slusher wrote:
idk I suck balls at relic shield so I can't criticize


180 gold is like less than 8 CS shared in 20 minutes.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 17 2014 05:48 GMT
#507
you fall behind fast if you roam mid 1 or 2 times.
Carrilord has arrived.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
December 17 2014 06:00 GMT
#508
On December 17 2014 13:35 Slusher wrote:
wait is John Galt back in the states?


Got back Saturday 1am and have been playing league damn near non stop! After playing a plethora of champions I have decided to main Aatrox/Liss in the top lane. Currently getting my ass kicked in Silver IV RAWR!!
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 17 2014 06:03 GMT
#509
I feel that Aatrox is pretty hard to play right now because everyone and their mothers build Morello's. It'll get better as that item is getting nerfed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 17 2014 06:23 GMT
#510
On December 17 2014 15:03 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel that Aatrox is pretty hard to play right now because everyone and their mothers build Morello's. It'll get better as that item is getting nerfed.

Ehhhh, unless they substantially buff athene's, (or I guess nerf morello to hell) I don't see what's going to change with first item buys for midlaners.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 17 2014 06:32 GMT
#511
you'd be surprised how many people never bought it before vs. heal characters even though it was more stats/gold than athene's (like since athenes was slightly nerfed mid s4)
Carrilord has arrived.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
December 17 2014 06:37 GMT
#512
On December 17 2014 15:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 15:03 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel that Aatrox is pretty hard to play right now because everyone and their mothers build Morello's. It'll get better as that item is getting nerfed.

Ehhhh, unless they substantially buff athene's, (or I guess nerf morello to hell) I don't see what's going to change with first item buys for midlaners.


With the addition of Zzz' rot gate, righteous glory and complete overhaul of Ohmwrecker into a tank item I am hopeful that they will at least introduce one item for APs and ADs before next season. I am also curious if they will rework masteries again.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 17 2014 06:43 GMT
#513
On December 17 2014 15:32 Slusher wrote:
you'd be surprised how many people never bought it before vs. heal characters even though it was more stats/gold than athene's (like since athenes was slightly nerfed mid s4)

I never understood why morellos+tears never really caught on in s4. Only rarely seen in some Ori games.
liftlift > tsm
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 17 2014 07:15 GMT
#514
On December 16 2014 18:38 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 18:34 JazzVortical wrote:
On December 16 2014 16:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 16 2014 16:35 JazzVortical wrote:
On December 16 2014 16:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 16 2014 15:40 JazzVortical wrote:
On December 16 2014 15:14 739 wrote:
Well, yeah.

Morellonomicon
Recipe cost increased to 880 from 680
Total Cost increased to 2300g from 2100g

Escalated quickly :D And they increased hp amount of jungle monsters ? Goddamn.

This needed to be done though, it never needed the price reduction in the first place.

I didn't mind morello's cost tbh, the problem was there were no alternative at that pricepoint that is worth getting for most mages

Because alternatives are costed more appropriately (Grail). 2100 is stupidly cheap.


I would say the closest equivalent is mpen boots+haunting guise.

What?

How on earth are those two items an alternative to Morello? Neither occupy the same intended spot in your inventory (mana regen + CDR item) or fulfil the same role. I can't think of a single champ that would go for that item combination over Morello, except for like Rumble, and he isn't getting Morello anyway. The closest I can think of is Malz, and even then every single Malz I see goes for a mana item first.

They aren't anywhere near alternatives.


You don't need morello or athene's on Malzahar. I generally just get two doran's.


Yeah dude, triple doran's into liandry is master race
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 17 2014 07:29 GMT
#515
On December 17 2014 15:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 15:03 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel that Aatrox is pretty hard to play right now because everyone and their mothers build Morello's. It'll get better as that item is getting nerfed.

Ehhhh, unless they substantially buff athene's, (or I guess nerf morello to hell) I don't see what's going to change with first item buys for midlaners.

lol this is league of legends
taking 5 ap away or something would result in the item being "gutted/olafed/lucianed" or whatever dumbass terms people are using nowadays, and proclaiming it is worse than hitler
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 17 2014 08:51 GMT
#516
So apparently, all the people that had skins/RP/runes/IP from buying referalls got their shit taken back by Riot, lol gg.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
December 17 2014 11:13 GMT
#517
On December 17 2014 15:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 15:32 Slusher wrote:
you'd be surprised how many people never bought it before vs. heal characters even though it was more stats/gold than athene's (like since athenes was slightly nerfed mid s4)

I never understood why morellos+tears never really caught on in s4. Only rarely seen in some Ori games.

Part of it was the community doesn't value healing reduction.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
December 17 2014 13:19 GMT
#518
On December 17 2014 20:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 15:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 17 2014 15:32 Slusher wrote:
you'd be surprised how many people never bought it before vs. heal characters even though it was more stats/gold than athene's (like since athenes was slightly nerfed mid s4)

I never understood why morellos+tears never really caught on in s4. Only rarely seen in some Ori games.

Part of it was the community doesn't value healing reduction.

I think some ap supports were doing it vs Aatrox, WW. Jax etc.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 17 2014 13:27 GMT
#519
Getting an utility item as a support makes sense. But as a midlaner it might be harder to justify.

I think Riot should have nerfed the AP instead.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 14:41:42
December 17 2014 14:36 GMT
#520
On December 17 2014 20:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 15:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 17 2014 15:32 Slusher wrote:
you'd be surprised how many people never bought it before vs. heal characters even though it was more stats/gold than athene's (like since athenes was slightly nerfed mid s4)

I never understood why morellos+tears never really caught on in s4. Only rarely seen in some Ori games.

Part of it was the community doesn't value healing reduction.

I think a bigger part was it juts led to some awkward item choices later on if you got 2 mana regen items. That means you can only have three out of: Rabas, zhonyas, void staff, lich bane, a defensive item (banshees/ga/randuins/whatever), dfg and haunting guise.

Most mids want at least 4 of those, while also not really benefiting from the additional mana.

From what I saw everyone was just typically buying chalice into the other items vs ap, and morellonomicon into other items vs ad. Why go for a second mana item unless you're ryze~

It kind of worked on ori because of how useful the extra mana is for moving the ball around, and because she's so utility, you can just go rabas zhonyas void and not feel too gimped by the lack of another damage item, but I don't feel as strong doing that on many other mids.
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