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MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
December 16 2014 18:37 GMT
#481
Does Riot want the standard jungle route to be 3 camps then gank/recall? It would fit with their stated intention of creating strategic diversity - if you're forced into only doing a subset of the camps, which ones you do matter slightly more than if you could do all of the camps and the only choice was what order in which to do them. Leaving more level 1 camps up and desynchronizing their respawns would also make counterjungling more attractive.

It sounds really unfun to me, though :/
Trust in Bayes.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 16 2014 18:43 GMT
#482
I don't think Riot is trying to make 3 camps -> gank a thing simply because these changes almost entirely work against that.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 18:44 GMT
#483
A lot of champions can do a fulll clear without recall. Including somewhat unexpected ones like Irelia.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 16 2014 18:48 GMT
#484
On December 17 2014 03:43 Seuss wrote:
I don't think Riot is trying to make 3 camps -> gank a thing simply because these changes almost entirely work against that.


Yea. 1 Camp>Recall> 2 Camps >Recall.

The new jungle path of champions. At least, for my jungle Katarina.
Freeeeeeedom
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 16 2014 19:09 GMT
#485
looks like they really want jungle to suck and become most unfun role even behind support this season
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 16 2014 19:12 GMT
#486
I find it strange that people think that because I think it's the most fun it's ever been :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
December 16 2014 19:15 GMT
#487
Well, my position before was that almost everyone could and should be able to clear 6 camps with a proper setup, or else clear 1-3 camps and gank with high health. I think the only junglers that may benefit from this are the ranged ones who make the most of the machete DOT by soft leashing.
Trust in Bayes.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 16 2014 19:15 GMT
#488
heh, new poro king mode is fun, pretty good for bruisers too.
liftlift > tsm
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 16 2014 19:23 GMT
#489
On December 17 2014 04:12 Osmoses wrote:
I find it strange that people think that because I think it's the most fun it's ever been :p

maybe if u enjoy playing farm junglers like ww (even then he got nerfed pretty hard), imo jungler feels weaker and less fun to play this patch (recent pbe changes seem to make it even worse), stvicious and meteos both echoed those feelings in their recent interviews /twitter
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5006 Posts
December 16 2014 19:29 GMT
#490
Jungle is quite fun. All the diffrerent little buffs give it quite a bit of diversity I think
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 16 2014 19:30 GMT
#491
On December 17 2014 04:12 Osmoses wrote:
I find it strange that people think that because I think it's the most fun it's ever been :p

I like that it's good that it's difficult again, but it's trending towards being very restrictive because of it. I can no longer do early S3 and load up on jungle item + locket + bulwark and be a low econ tanky adonis in S5.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:40:06
December 16 2014 19:35 GMT
#492
On December 17 2014 04:15 MidnightGladius wrote:
Well, my position before was that almost everyone could and should be able to clear 6 camps with a proper setup, or else clear 1-3 camps and gank with high health. I think the only junglers that may benefit from this are the ranged ones who make the most of the machete DOT by soft leashing.

soft leashing is probably getting seriously nerfed next patch.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 16 2014 20:19 GMT
#493
Pro jungling is significantly worse. but casual solo queue play jungling isn't too bad right now.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 16 2014 21:37 GMT
#494
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/poro-king-comes-lcs-0
So there's gonna be a poro king showmatch tomorrow featuring players from T8, C9 and curse. That's pretty cool
Glorious SEA doto
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6220 Posts
December 16 2014 23:48 GMT
#495
Oh damn.



Skarner can pull people pretty damn far. My guess is blitz could do much the same thing...
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 17 2014 01:54 GMT
#496
My biggest complaint with new jungle so far is it's so fucking painful for the first 3-5 levels, like Machete isn't enough sustain like how Spirit Stone was.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 17 2014 02:06 GMT
#497
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 17 2014 02:19 GMT
#498
On December 17 2014 11:06 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 14:28 Vaporized wrote:
skarner buffs. i dont think that will be enough for me to play him again which makes me sad. i used to love playing skarner.

those renekton changes are interesting...



What skarner Buffs are you speaking of?

On PBE:
Skarner
Crystal Slash (Q) mana cost lowered to 16/17/18/19/20 from 16/18/20/22/24
Fracture (E) cooldown reduced to 12/11.5/11/10.5/10 seconds from 12 at all ranks.

JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
December 17 2014 04:01 GMT
#499
Anyone wanna duo on NA?? I am Silver IV and I play Top (jungle if I don't get top). My name is gaMESense - add me!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 17 2014 04:26 GMT
#500
On December 17 2014 13:01 JonGalt wrote:
Anyone wanna duo on NA?? I am Silver IV and I play Top (jungle if I don't get top). My name is gaMESense - add me!

Unfortunately, Riot hates me and refuses to help my connection issues so far so no ranked for me. =\
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