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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 19:25:54
December 17 2014 19:25 GMT
#541
Yo when you guys talk about runes and say something like armor/cdr/mpen/AD what is the order? are you doing quints/marks/seals/glyphs or what?

Is there some sort of standard that I am not aware of?
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 17 2014 19:28 GMT
#542
On December 18 2014 04:25 JonGalt wrote:
Yo when you guys talk about runes and say something like armor/cdr/mpen/AD what is the order? are you doing quints/marks/seals/glyphs or what?

Is there some sort of standard that I am not aware of?

A lot of runes are best in slot for that type. That page is almost certainly armor yellows, cdr blues, mpen reds, and AD quints.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 17 2014 19:30 GMT
#543
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 17 2014 19:30 GMT
#544
I think it's pretty normal to list them in order of marks/seals/glyphs/quints, because that's the order they appear on the page, unless the person says something differently.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 17 2014 19:32 GMT
#545
Quints are either in the front or back. Use common sense and context to tell what which one is Quints. Other than that, marks/seals/glyphs are usually in sequential order.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 17 2014 19:33 GMT
#546
On December 18 2014 04:30 krndandaman wrote:
it's usually quints marks seals glyphs but you can usually tell which is which even if you're not sure of the order.

for ex. cdr is pretty much always blues. ad is always quints/marks. health is quints or seals. as is marks/quints. armor is quints/seals.

each rune is usually its strongest as a quint and 1 other one


Most runes are only primary in one type, and you can do it by relative value/opportunity cost. For example, an AD quint is worth 2.36 AD reds, while an mpen quint is worth 2.23 mpen reds, so if you wanted AD and Mpen you'd fill up your mpen in reds first and AD in quints first.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_runes#Primary_runes
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 17 2014 19:35 GMT
#547
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
December 17 2014 20:14 GMT
#548
Thanks!!
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
December 17 2014 20:15 GMT
#549
On December 18 2014 04:25 JonGalt wrote:
Yo when you guys talk about runes and say something like armor/cdr/mpen/AD what is the order? are you doing quints/marks/seals/glyphs or what?

Is there some sort of standard that I am not aware of?

The standard is mark/seal/glyph/quint since that's the way they go top down on the rune selecter.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
December 17 2014 20:28 GMT
#550
if you haven't played in awhile one thing to note is that changes to rune values have made armor and attack speed quints relatively more efficient than they used to be (they made armor yellows worse and AS quints better). another by-product of the armor seal changes is that taking hp seals is more viable.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 00:15:00
December 17 2014 23:56 GMT
#551
EUW is fucked to hell atm.

Also I can't see Shaco use Deceive from the fog of war anymore. Is that a change? I don't remember patch notes talking about it.
He also stopped Darius' ult by using Deceive. Going invisible shouldn't stop that, since Wukong using Decoy after the animation starts will still get it. Getting out of range still gets you hit too (Flashing out doesn't stop it), so there's no reason for Deceive to cancel the cast.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 00:01:34
December 17 2014 23:56 GMT
#552
is anyone still playing gragas ? he used to be so powerful hard to believe -30% dmg to minions made him trash tier Oo
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 18 2014 00:09 GMT
#553
On December 18 2014 08:56 kongoline wrote:
is anyone still playing gragas ? he used to be so powerful hard to believe -30% dmg to minions made him trash tier Oo

this is league of legends
that shouldnt surprise you
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Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
December 18 2014 00:16 GMT
#554
On December 18 2014 08:56 kongoline wrote:
is anyone still playing gragas ? he used to be so powerful hard to believe -30% dmg to minions made him trash tier Oo

IMO he is bad mid because of poor waveclear, great top and support, average jungle
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
December 18 2014 00:33 GMT
#555
Also they added manacost to his W, that hurt him a lot.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 18 2014 01:26 GMT
#556
I tried jungling him a few times last week while he was free. My impression is that he is an OK jungler... but I might have underestimatrd him because I suck at using his ult.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 18 2014 01:43 GMT
#557
On December 18 2014 09:09 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 08:56 kongoline wrote:
is anyone still playing gragas ? he used to be so powerful hard to believe -30% dmg to minions made him trash tier Oo

this is league of legends
that shouldnt surprise you


Yea...and that the fact that everytime someone says something about people overreacting to nerfs, or about how a champ became FOTM without buffs, they are ignoring how the game has changed around said character.

For instance, Olaf and Singed are currently suboptimal picks. But with some changes to that speed up item, a few nerfs in the toplane, and a nerf to Lucian they could become FOTM without any buffs. This would not mean that people who are advocating those picks now are correct, and were just secretly smarter than us all, it means they were wrong until they were right. Like a guy who short sold mortgages from 2000-2009, he wasn't smart that whole time, just at the end he was right once.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 18 2014 01:43 GMT
#558
Really enjoying Azir. He's so much easier to use since I decided to stick with him and get past his weird learning curve. I just wish his lore was longer than 3 lines lol.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
December 18 2014 02:35 GMT
#559
On December 18 2014 10:43 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:09 arb wrote:
On December 18 2014 08:56 kongoline wrote:
is anyone still playing gragas ? he used to be so powerful hard to believe -30% dmg to minions made him trash tier Oo

this is league of legends
that shouldnt surprise you


Yea...and that the fact that everytime someone says something about people overreacting to nerfs, or about how a champ became FOTM without buffs, they are ignoring how the game has changed around said character.

For instance, Olaf and Singed are currently suboptimal picks. But with some changes to that speed up item, a few nerfs in the toplane, and a nerf to Lucian they could become FOTM without any buffs. This would not mean that people who are advocating those picks now are correct, and were just secretly smarter than us all, it means they were wrong until they were right. Like a guy who short sold mortgages from 2000-2009, he wasn't smart that whole time, just at the end he was right once.

Except that isn't how it happened with Gragas. He was top 3 top laners after people figured out the rework, got some slaps on the wrist, and was immediately dropped.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 18 2014 02:40 GMT
#560
On December 18 2014 11:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 10:43 cLutZ wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:09 arb wrote:
On December 18 2014 08:56 kongoline wrote:
is anyone still playing gragas ? he used to be so powerful hard to believe -30% dmg to minions made him trash tier Oo

this is league of legends
that shouldnt surprise you


Yea...and that the fact that everytime someone says something about people overreacting to nerfs, or about how a champ became FOTM without buffs, they are ignoring how the game has changed around said character.

For instance, Olaf and Singed are currently suboptimal picks. But with some changes to that speed up item, a few nerfs in the toplane, and a nerf to Lucian they could become FOTM without any buffs. This would not mean that people who are advocating those picks now are correct, and were just secretly smarter than us all, it means they were wrong until they were right. Like a guy who short sold mortgages from 2000-2009, he wasn't smart that whole time, just at the end he was right once.

Except that isn't how it happened with Gragas. He was top 3 top laners after people figured out the rework, got some slaps on the wrist, and was immediately dropped.

Still minor nerfs leading to characters never being touched again has always been a league of legends thing
even if they are completely fine and still pretty strong
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