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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#281
On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out

I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you?
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 14 2014 17:14 GMT
#282
On December 15 2014 02:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out

I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you?

if he is it better be maxed first and he better be standing under his own tower. its long enough range that if you are actually using it for farm you have no need to ever be in range of an enemy hit. its like complaining about a gank after you clear a wave with lux. there is no need to actually be in range.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 14 2014 17:34 GMT
#283
On December 15 2014 00:53 Uldridge wrote:
Why would you want to miss out on the glory of a 100% champion pool?
Fuck the one trick ponies man, I'm an all trick pony. But seriously, when you start understanding how matchups and champions and the game in general work, why would you need that 1 perfect champ that perfectly suits you? Just play whatever you feel like and get the mad ladder points mang. Or donate them. Whatever it is, it's still your choice!

hmm, are these the Church of Platinum4 dogmas that I am reading here?
spam 1 champ, git gud. Extra Challenger nulla salus.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 14 2014 17:35 GMT
#284
I cannot be less impressed about Sejuani jungle. I think the patch buffed her, but she still feels terrible in the early-mid game. Her late game is hilarious, but she can't do anything before 6 and her clear is atrocious.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 14 2014 17:49 GMT
#285
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 14 2014 18:14 GMT
#286
On December 15 2014 02:34 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 00:53 Uldridge wrote:
Why would you want to miss out on the glory of a 100% champion pool?
Fuck the one trick ponies man, I'm an all trick pony. But seriously, when you start understanding how matchups and champions and the game in general work, why would you need that 1 perfect champ that perfectly suits you? Just play whatever you feel like and get the mad ladder points mang. Or donate them. Whatever it is, it's still your choice!

hmm, are these the Church of Platinum4 dogmas that I am reading here?
spam 1 champ, git gud. Extra Challenger nulla salus.

getting good at one champ makes it easier to reach high elo
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 18:21:30
December 14 2014 18:14 GMT
#287
On December 15 2014 02:49 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 02:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out

I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you?


jarvan, riven, and irelia are some of the best melee 'counters' to lissandra in lane.

jarvan eq is nearly half the cd of lissandra's e. if you can force her to burn her e and then have your jungler come up when it's down, theres a good chance for a kill.

I feel like riven is a skill matchup to a certain extent. Liss W completely stops her from doing anything provided you aren't in range to get hit by riven W. Pretty hard to do it with east coast ping because stuff just doesn't go through in time, but with better ping you could reliably W(instacast) her gap close combo, and then punish the crap out of it(3-4 autos, 2 Q). You die if you fuck up and let her get onto you, but unlike j4/irelia, you can completely shut down a trade attempt with good positioning.

Also Eing through riven does wonders if you can anticipate a skill. You can dodge so much of riven's burst if she spends one skill going the wrong way, because it takes another to make up for that distance.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 14 2014 18:20 GMT
#288
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 18:39:00
December 14 2014 18:32 GMT
#289
On December 15 2014 03:20 krndandaman wrote:
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On December 15 2014 03:14 Amui wrote:
On December 15 2014 02:49 krndandaman wrote:
On December 15 2014 02:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out

I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you?


jarvan, riven, and irelia are some of the best melee 'counters' to lissandra in lane.

jarvan eq is nearly half the cd of lissandra's e. if you can force her to burn her e and then have your jungler come up when it's down, theres a good chance for a kill.

I feel like riven is a skill matchup to a certain extent. Liss W completely stops her from doing anything provided you aren't in range to get hit by riven W. Pretty hard to do it with east coast ping because stuff just doesn't go through in time, but with better ping you could reliably W(instacast) her gap close combo, and then punish the crap out of it(3-4 autos, 2 Q). You die if you fuck up and let her get onto you, but unlike j4/irelia, you can completely shut down a trade attempt with good positioning.


its honestly one of those matchups you theoretically should win but is hard as fuck to actually do it right and when you mess up once you're punished really hard for it. im also east coast 100 ping so its pretty hard

That's kinda my feeling on the matchup. Riven has to fight if she wants to farm in this lane, so if you can react well and punish her 2-3 times in a row(+3-4 if riven has TP), you win the lane incredibly hard because you have a seeker's against underfarmed riven. Fuck up once though, and you're down TP, more than that and you lose lane and can't even go out for CS.

Most of the times I've won the lane are because I forced TP by level 3-4, and managed to push her out before 6 with my own TP, and just get a level/item edge and snowball the lane.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
December 14 2014 18:50 GMT
#290
speaking of east coast ping, my LAN account is level 23 if anyone wants to duo queue with someone that speaks english and isn't playing on the server just because they got banned from NA.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 14 2014 18:52 GMT
#291
Do you guys go mobo boots on your junglers or do you prefer resist boots?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 14 2014 18:58 GMT
#292
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 14 2014 18:59 GMT
#293
On December 15 2014 03:50 chalice wrote:
speaking of east coast ping, my LAN account is level 23 if anyone wants to duo queue with someone that speaks english and isn't playing on the server just because they got banned from NA.


Feel free to add me, Maestro Blitz. Can't play right now though.
Hey! How you doin'?
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 14 2014 19:16 GMT
#294
On December 15 2014 03:50 chalice wrote:
speaking of east coast ping, my LAN account is level 23 if anyone wants to duo queue with someone that speaks english and isn't playing on the server just because they got banned from NA.


I play from time to time on LAN, add: TisButaScratch
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 14 2014 19:27 GMT
#295
On December 15 2014 03:52 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Do you guys go mobo boots on your junglers or do you prefer resist boots?

Go fast boots most of the time.
liftlift > tsm
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
December 14 2014 19:33 GMT
#296
On December 15 2014 03:58 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 03:52 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Do you guys go mobo boots on your junglers or do you prefer resist boots?


honestly depends on the jungler/comp/situation.


if i go juggernaut i almost always get mobis.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 14 2014 20:34 GMT
#297
NA down for anyone?
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 14 2014 21:57 GMT
#298
I find myself buying Juggernaut pretty late though, because of how much it costs (1550) and apart from a casual kindlegem the build-up isn't that good.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 22:19:02
December 14 2014 22:18 GMT
#299
On December 15 2014 02:35 Sufficiency wrote:
I cannot be less impressed about Sejuani jungle. I think the patch buffed her, but she still feels terrible in the early-mid game. Her late game is hilarious, but she can't do anything before 6 and her clear is atrocious.


I've noticed that a straight Ranger->Juggernaut->tank build has trouble keeping up in farm, so I've been trying a damage/tank item before finishing Juggernaut, e.g. one of Sunfire/Abyssal/Guise. You play a slightly different role in fights because you can't be the only front line, but I still feel much more useful in those early fights, and the extra farming speed helps ease the transition to the 2nd and 3rd big items.

I'm overall pretty happy with the Sejuani changes, but not significantly more so than I was with her before. For a rework, it certainly could've been much worse.
Trust in Bayes.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 14 2014 22:38 GMT
#300
Has anyone played Ziggs recently? I tried him last night, and the mana issues were just brutal with morello. I'm thinking maybe tear into morello or maybe double morello could be good on him.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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