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On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out
I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you?
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On December 15 2014 02:02 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you?
if he is it better be maxed first and he better be standing under his own tower. its long enough range that if you are actually using it for farm you have no need to ever be in range of an enemy hit. its like complaining about a gank after you clear a wave with lux. there is no need to actually be in range.
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On December 15 2014 00:53 Uldridge wrote:
Why would you want to miss out on the glory of a 100% champion pool?
Fuck the one trick ponies man, I'm an all trick pony. But seriously, when you start understanding how matchups and champions and the game in general work, why would you need that 1 perfect champ that perfectly suits you? Just play whatever you feel like and get the mad ladder points mang. Or donate them. Whatever it is, it's still your choice!
hmm, are these the Church of Platinum4 dogmas that I am reading here?
spam 1 champ, git gud. Extra Challenger nulla salus.
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I cannot be less impressed about Sejuani jungle. I think the patch buffed her, but she still feels terrible in the early-mid game. Her late game is hilarious, but she can't do anything before 6 and her clear is atrocious.
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On December 15 2014 02:34 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 00:53 Uldridge wrote:
Why would you want to miss out on the glory of a 100% champion pool?
Fuck the one trick ponies man, I'm an all trick pony. But seriously, when you start understanding how matchups and champions and the game in general work, why would you need that 1 perfect champ that perfectly suits you? Just play whatever you feel like and get the mad ladder points mang. Or donate them. Whatever it is, it's still your choice! hmm, are these the Church of Platinum4 dogmas that I am reading here? spam 1 champ, git gud. Extra Challenger nulla salus.
getting good at one champ makes it easier to reach high elo
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On December 15 2014 02:49 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 02:02 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you? jarvan, riven, and irelia are some of the best melee 'counters' to lissandra in lane. jarvan eq is nearly half the cd of lissandra's e. if you can force her to burn her e and then have your jungler come up when it's down, theres a good chance for a kill.
I feel like riven is a skill matchup to a certain extent. Liss W completely stops her from doing anything provided you aren't in range to get hit by riven W. Pretty hard to do it with east coast ping because stuff just doesn't go through in time, but with better ping you could reliably W(instacast) her gap close combo, and then punish the crap out of it(3-4 autos, 2 Q). You die if you fuck up and let her get onto you, but unlike j4/irelia, you can completely shut down a trade attempt with good positioning.
Also Eing through riven does wonders if you can anticipate a skill. You can dodge so much of riven's burst if she spends one skill going the wrong way, because it takes another to make up for that distance.
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On December 15 2014 03:20 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 03:14 Amui wrote:On December 15 2014 02:49 krndandaman wrote:On December 15 2014 02:02 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2014 19:58 Fusilero wrote:
And I just had the "pleasure" of playing lissandra vs J4/Kayle jungle. Oh nicolas cage it hurts so bad I wasn't even safe under my turret
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out I wouldn't think it's that bad. You're not using your E to farm are you? jarvan, riven, and irelia are some of the best melee 'counters' to lissandra in lane. jarvan eq is nearly half the cd of lissandra's e. if you can force her to burn her e and then have your jungler come up when it's down, theres a good chance for a kill. I feel like riven is a skill matchup to a certain extent. Liss W completely stops her from doing anything provided you aren't in range to get hit by riven W. Pretty hard to do it with east coast ping because stuff just doesn't go through in time, but with better ping you could reliably W(instacast) her gap close combo, and then punish the crap out of it(3-4 autos, 2 Q). You die if you fuck up and let her get onto you, but unlike j4/irelia, you can completely shut down a trade attempt with good positioning. its honestly one of those matchups you theoretically should win but is hard as fuck to actually do it right and when you mess up once you're punished really hard for it. im also east coast 100 ping so its pretty hard 
That's kinda my feeling on the matchup. Riven has to fight if she wants to farm in this lane, so if you can react well and punish her 2-3 times in a row(+3-4 if riven has TP), you win the lane incredibly hard because you have a seeker's against underfarmed riven. Fuck up once though, and you're down TP, more than that and you lose lane and can't even go out for CS.
Most of the times I've won the lane are because I forced TP by level 3-4, and managed to push her out before 6 with my own TP, and just get a level/item edge and snowball the lane.
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speaking of east coast ping, my LAN account is level 23 if anyone wants to duo queue with someone that speaks english and isn't playing on the server just because they got banned from NA.
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Do you guys go mobo boots on your junglers or do you prefer resist boots?
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On December 15 2014 03:50 chalice wrote:
speaking of east coast ping, my LAN account is level 23 if anyone wants to duo queue with someone that speaks english and isn't playing on the server just because they got banned from NA.
Feel free to add me, Maestro Blitz. Can't play right now though.
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On December 15 2014 03:50 chalice wrote:
speaking of east coast ping, my LAN account is level 23 if anyone wants to duo queue with someone that speaks english and isn't playing on the server just because they got banned from NA.
I play from time to time on LAN, add: TisButaScratch
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On December 15 2014 03:52 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Do you guys go mobo boots on your junglers or do you prefer resist boots?
Go fast boots most of the time.
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On December 15 2014 03:58 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 03:52 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Do you guys go mobo boots on your junglers or do you prefer resist boots? honestly depends on the jungler/comp/situation.
if i go juggernaut i almost always get mobis.
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I find myself buying Juggernaut pretty late though, because of how much it costs (1550) and apart from a casual kindlegem the build-up isn't that good.
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On December 15 2014 02:35 Sufficiency wrote:
I cannot be less impressed about Sejuani jungle. I think the patch buffed her, but she still feels terrible in the early-mid game. Her late game is hilarious, but she can't do anything before 6 and her clear is atrocious.
I've noticed that a straight Ranger->Juggernaut->tank build has trouble keeping up in farm, so I've been trying a damage/tank item before finishing Juggernaut, e.g. one of Sunfire/Abyssal/Guise. You play a slightly different role in fights because you can't be the only front line, but I still feel much more useful in those early fights, and the extra farming speed helps ease the transition to the 2nd and 3rd big items.
I'm overall pretty happy with the Sejuani changes, but not significantly more so than I was with her before. For a rework, it certainly could've been much worse.
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Has anyone played Ziggs recently? I tried him last night, and the mana issues were just brutal with morello. I'm thinking maybe tear into morello or maybe double morello could be good on him.
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