On December 14 2014 10:20 Vaporized wrote:
i go w-e-w-q-e then max e. worked fine. on sej that is.
i go w-e-w-q-e then max e. worked fine. on sej that is.
why would you go e over q 2nd ;o
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Complete
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On December 14 2014 10:20 Vaporized wrote: i go w-e-w-q-e then max e. worked fine. on sej that is. why would you go e over q 2nd ;o | ||
justiceknight
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Gahlo
United States35152 Posts
On December 14 2014 11:58 Complete wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2014 10:20 Vaporized wrote: i go w-e-w-q-e then max e. worked fine. on sej that is. why would you go e over q 2nd ;o Lower CD on e, higher slow uptime, stronger slow. | ||
Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On December 14 2014 13:16 Gahlo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2014 11:58 Complete wrote: On December 14 2014 10:20 Vaporized wrote: i go w-e-w-q-e then max e. worked fine. on sej that is. why would you go e over q 2nd ;o Lower CD on e, higher slow uptime, stronger slow. yeah. i find e to be much more useful overall. if you arent in melee range w is useless. reducing the cd on e is actually really good. you can live the perma-slow dream again, the frost debuff lasts 4 seconds, with cdr the cd on e is 3.6 seconds. its very difficult for people to escape once you get them locked down. since the patch hit ive found myself q-ing to an enemy, and pressing w but having the enemy dash or flash or jump away before the auto attack hits. in this situation w is useless, and having a strong e is much more valuable. this obviously doesnt happen every time, but it happens enough that ive noticed it being an issue. if you want to do more damage i guess w would work. personally, i dont play sejuani to do damage. w-e has a faster first clear time, but the difference isnt huge (or even noticeable really). w-q is fine to start. | ||
ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 14 2014 13:04 justiceknight wrote: how do u lb vs kat/malzahar? everytime i went QW they just shit on my face I have no idea how you're supposed to beat Malz as LB because if you take any damage due to harass he can just buffer his ult on you and if you W into range you just die | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 14 2014 14:51 Vaporized wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2014 13:16 Gahlo wrote: On December 14 2014 11:58 Complete wrote: On December 14 2014 10:20 Vaporized wrote: i go w-e-w-q-e then max e. worked fine. on sej that is. why would you go e over q 2nd ;o Lower CD on e, higher slow uptime, stronger slow. yeah. i find e to be much more useful overall. if you arent in melee range w is useless. reducing the cd on e is actually really good. you can live the perma-slow dream again, the frost debuff lasts 4 seconds, with cdr the cd on e is 3.6 seconds. its very difficult for people to escape once you get them locked down. since the patch hit ive found myself q-ing to an enemy, and pressing w but having the enemy dash or flash or jump away before the auto attack hits. in this situation w is useless, and having a strong e is much more valuable. this obviously doesnt happen every time, but it happens enough that ive noticed it being an issue. if you want to do more damage i guess w would work. personally, i dont play sejuani to do damage. w-e has a faster first clear time, but the difference isnt huge (or even noticeable really). w-q is fine to start. Does her E apply Frost??? | ||
Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
if you are in range to e then a 70% slow is plenty to get another stack of frost however you can against most champions. im not sure what your point is. | ||
Complete
United States1864 Posts
maxing E before W seems gross with the hard new jungle, not sure how to find a balance so far... | ||
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teemo_girl
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Gahlo
United States35152 Posts
On December 14 2014 17:03 Complete wrote: I just meant why would you take lvl 2 E over lvl 2 Q since Q does more damage and can interrupt autos from creeps to save HP. But I guess E does have a lower CD, so I'm not exactly sure which is best :D maxing E before W seems gross with the hard new jungle, not sure how to find a balance so far... We're talking about maxing E after W, not initial clear order. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
J4 didn't even need to E+Q he just ulted and kayle waited my ult out | ||
MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On December 14 2014 13:04 justiceknight wrote: how do u lb vs kat/malzahar? everytime i went QW they just shit on my face LB Q still stops channels doesn't it? Similar to kass q. Worth noting this would almost definitely only make a difference in the Kat match up. If I'm correct, you should shit on Kat | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On December 14 2014 20:33 MattBarry wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2014 13:04 justiceknight wrote: how do u lb vs kat/malzahar? everytime i went QW they just shit on my face LB Q still stops channels doesn't it? Similar to kass q. Worth noting this would almost definitely only make a difference in the Kat match up. If I'm correct, you should shit on Kat No. It's just a nuke now. LB might still beat Kat out but it's definitely not because of Q. | ||
Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 14 2014 13:04 justiceknight wrote: how do u lb vs kat/malzahar? everytime i went QW they just shit on my face You need to hit kata with E before you QW. The silence isn't forever and she'll just shunpo your face. | ||
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Fuck the one trick ponies man, I'm an all trick pony. But seriously, when you start understanding how matchups and champions and the game in general work, why would you need that 1 perfect champ that perfectly suits you? Just play whatever you feel like and get the mad ladder points mang. Or donate them. Whatever it is, it's still your choice! | ||
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