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MidnightGladius
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Sufficiency
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krndandaman
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ticklishmusic
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On December 02 2014 18:20 Alaric wrote: Nope. Also poor TOO couldn't catch a break last night on PBE, kept pinging the enemy splitpushing Zed for Riven to force a fight while he's at inhib tower and TOO ults to blue, but as soon a Zed hears the sound he just runs away while Riven pussies out and you have a sad TOO, hue. See, that guy isn't a shitter like me who after 10 games still drop Nasus to 150 HP thrice during the laning phase but can't finish him off (or force him to miss that 10+ cs ball) before he gets oom or the jungler comes and forces a back, and then is all sad "welp he's got Cowl, time to afk farm I can't kill anymore". Maybe you need to re-evaluate the way you're playing the lane. Like, maybe you're playing your current way perfectly and getting them down to 150 or whatever consistently but can't kill them not because you're doing something wrong, but the strategy is ultimately a dead end. You're playing perfectly, but not optimally. I guess it's a little weird but an analogy or simplification would be a spell combo. You can do combo A perfectly after practice, but even then it can only do 900 damage max. However instead combo B which you haven't really considered can actually do 1000. So instead of doing combo A perfectly each time, you'd be much better learning to use combo B which is optimal. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
The combo that does the most damage in one sitting isn't the best combo to use in this lane for harass. Too mana inefficient. Your goal is to attrition him down to 50-60%, blow him up, and then push it into tower, rinse, repeat. It's a lane where you can play very, very far up in the lane because all 4 skills can prevent nasus from touching you without wither, and 3 will get you away from wither. Mana management is something you need to learn with liss, she uses a lot if you try to get the most out of any one trade, but she's very mana light if you want her to be. | ||
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obesechicken13
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On December 03 2014 06:48 Fusilero wrote: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/12/122-pbe-update.html So there's a new item on PBE and it is uuuuh, interesting It competes with GA for splitpushers. Nice. It looks like they're testing nerfing ww and buffing devourer again. I liked when on hit had that midgame power spike. It used to be better with malady and wits but then malady got removed. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Not that cs-ing is an actual prospect with the shitshow that are the ranged minions' autoattacks in the new map, and Riot won't change them. I also tend to misjudge my range a lot because it's a bit shorter than the actual particle (you can visually "hit" someone but not actually do anything and I eyeball ranges a lot). For example last game I was against a Sion (whose Q's hitbox is on the contrary slightly longer than the particle), and despite what the wiki says when I stood out of range of his Q I couldn't retaliate against hit. So the obvious was to move predictively to the side and toward him, to dodge the spell and get in range of him. But before I noticed that I missed several Qs (or ate his trying to hit mine, which is a fairly bad trade for me), and if I wasn't forced back by several ganks in a row I'd have had to recall first anyway because I'd get oom without killing him because of that. Lissandra can bully Nasus around at early levels too, but if you don't include a lot of auto harass too or miss a few Qs, his flask start + natural sustain will let him leave till he can buy a NMM and the lane's basically a farm fest (with you running oom way before him and being easier to kill with a gank than him), which is a loss for you because you won't be able to shove and roam, and will lose your tower if you TP. I've came close to kills (and a bunch of missed cs because Nasus will let you push) several times, which would be an opportunity to try and snowball on him, but because I fail everytime it's a stalemate into eventual loss and hoping I'll do more in teamfights. Maybe I should just run AP blues in these match-ups too, MR doesn't do much because Liss explodes whenever you brush her, and CDR is out of the question as even with Morello she runs oom really fast. Edit: that WW damage nerf, damn. His ult got gutted, it's basically "if you aren't jungling with devourer you'll now tickle" (his passive adds damage but not that much). | ||
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nafta
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Complete
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ticklishmusic
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Sufficiency
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On December 03 2014 09:37 Complete wrote: do people use stalker blade or rangers trailblazer on panth in da jangle these days? :o I go Skirm/War on jungle Panth. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On December 03 2014 10:28 Sufficiency wrote: That raistlin guy is viewer botting on Twitch pretty hard. Wasn't he claiming to be diamond, and then barely hitting 20 cs at 10 minutes? Also tried CDR boots on liss after CDR item. If you survive anybody's burst combo, you will win the DPS war. Very teamfight/skirmish oriented boots build, but you get 40% so fast, and then absolutely slaughter people in lane because you can keep walking at them with a spell to back it up. Little bit harder to combo somebody without the sorc boots, but perma slow and always having ultimate up is amazing. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 03 2014 10:57 Amui wrote: Wasn't he claiming to be diamond, and then barely hitting 20 cs at 10 minutes? Also tried CDR boots on liss after CDR item. If you survive anybody's burst combo, you will win the DPS war. Very teamfight/skirmish oriented boots build, but you get 40% so fast, and then absolutely slaughter people in lane because you can keep walking at them with a spell to back it up. Little bit harder to combo somebody without the sorc boots, but perma slow and always having ultimate up is amazing. Pretty sure he is viewer botting. He is at 1.5k viewers with < 20 registered viewers. Comparably most other streams with ~1.5k total viewers have 200+ registered viewers. Honestly, I don't think he seems like someone smart enough to do viewer botting himself. I think he had some help. | ||
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GolemMadness
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RagequitBM
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Prog
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On December 03 2014 10:57 Amui wrote: Wasn't he claiming to be diamond, and then barely hitting 20 cs at 10 minutes? Also tried CDR boots on liss after CDR item. If you survive anybody's burst combo, you will win the DPS war. Very teamfight/skirmish oriented boots build, but you get 40% so fast, and then absolutely slaughter people in lane because you can keep walking at them with a spell to back it up. Little bit harder to combo somebody without the sorc boots, but perma slow and always having ultimate up is amazing. I think you need to get too close with Lissandra to warrant a teamfight oriented build aimed at high sustained dps. Better go for burst with sorcs. | ||
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