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[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 15

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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 10 2014 02:59 GMT
#281
These PBE notes are interesting.

They're buffing Machete and making it so if you don't have Smite you can't buy it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 10 2014 03:05 GMT
#282
On October 10 2014 11:44 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:15 Scip wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:05 miicah wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:12 Ketara wrote:
My first impression of Sion, after seeing him in a few games, is that he's similar to Nasus, real weak early and real strong late.

Except maybe even more of each.


Nasus is really not that weak in the early game, have you ever watched sirchez play him?

Nor is he that good lategame unless against very specific comps


Who is a better late game (6 items) melee top than Nasus?

Edit: And Poppy doesn't count.

besides Poppy I'd generally prefer Rumble
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 03:08:51
October 10 2014 03:08 GMT
#283
On October 10 2014 11:54 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:50 Ketara wrote:
Kayle isn't Melee.

THESE ARE THE RULES THAT I HAVE JUST MADE UP.


Also these Quinn changes on reignofgaming. Rank 3 ult 1 second cooldown. That's not going to happen.

also kayle would get raped lategame by 6item nasus i dont know what is this guy smoking, worst case scenario hes a huge tank with broken 5s slow which eliminates adc from the fight, aoe and retarded single target dmg

Something something, invincibility, heal etc. I would rather have a proplayer with 6item kayle in lategame, than a proplayer with a 6-item nasus with 600 stacks.
On October 10 2014 12:05 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:44 Ketara wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:15 Scip wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:05 miicah wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:12 Ketara wrote:
My first impression of Sion, after seeing him in a few games, is that he's similar to Nasus, real weak early and real strong late.

Except maybe even more of each.


Nasus is really not that weak in the early game, have you ever watched sirchez play him?

Nor is he that good lategame unless against very specific comps


Who is a better late game (6 items) melee top than Nasus?

Edit: And Poppy doesn't count.

besides Poppy I'd generally prefer Rumble

b-b-b-ut 90% of his damage is ranged!!! that doesn't count!!!!
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 10 2014 03:13 GMT
#284
Wei, please stop being stupid, just for one post.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 10 2014 03:15 GMT
#285
On October 10 2014 11:59 Ketara wrote:
These PBE notes are interesting.

They're buffing Machete and making it so if you don't have Smite you can't buy it.


Interesting.

You have a link?
droserin
Profile Joined September 2014
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 03:22:26
October 10 2014 03:16 GMT
#286
Riot summary of PBE changes: http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/9dG0ndq0-rough-notes-pbe-10092014

Dragon changes are stupid. The permanent buff is just stats, and now you take more damage the more times your team has killed dragon.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 10 2014 03:20 GMT
#287
It's all pretty jumbled and hard to read, and numbers will prob get changed around anyway.

But that Machete change stood out, I like it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 10 2014 03:37 GMT
#288
Interesting that they are potentially allow split pushing by using minion auras, that's pretty much what Yango said could be done instead of making that portal item lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 10 2014 03:39 GMT
#289
Most interesting thing on the list to me is the extra jungle monster in the river who isn't hostile and runs away from champions as a vision tool.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
October 10 2014 03:39 GMT
#290
Late level advantages will be crazy and total value of level up stats is going way way up in a way that will modify the entire power level of bruisers/ADs and AP champions.

Changes look positively insane.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 10 2014 03:40 GMT
#291
Nasus's late game is pretty mediocre. If he just splitpush he is pretty strong 1v1, but if he needs to fight 5v5 he will run into a a lot of problems... since in late game there are a lot of tools to deal with him.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 10 2014 03:49 GMT
#292
On October 10 2014 12:39 Ketara wrote:
Most interesting thing on the list to me is the extra jungle monster in the river who isn't hostile and runs away from champions as a vision tool.

I mean a lot of those changes are pretty drastic. I'm definitely gonna jump into the PBE and partake in the madness. Although no way to tell what changes are going to stick and which changes they are going to scrap.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
droserin
Profile Joined September 2014
127 Posts
October 10 2014 03:50 GMT
#293
Actually, depending on the stats, it might be worth cheesing an early dragon to get the extra regen for the lane phase.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 10 2014 03:51 GMT
#294
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 10 2014 03:54 GMT
#295
hot fucking damn as much as I usually don't care about patches this preview of all the changes makes me really excited
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 10 2014 03:55 GMT
#296
On October 10 2014 12:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Nasus's late game is pretty mediocre. If he just splitpush he is pretty strong 1v1, but if he needs to fight 5v5 he will run into a a lot of problems... since in late game there are a lot of tools to deal with him.

hes a tank with potential for infinite dmg and good cc + aoe, how the hell is he mediocre he outscales every single bruiser in game including jax,irelia,mao its not like hes squishy melee carry like trynd or yi which are shit in team fight and can only splitpush, nasus is a tank who can easily zone backline for a long time that by default means hes a good team fighter
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
October 10 2014 03:55 GMT
#297
On October 10 2014 12:54 Scip wrote:
hot fucking damn as much as I usually don't care about patches this preview of all the changes makes me really excited

Somewhere at Riot an alarm has gone off. "Sir, we've now hit catgirl level hype."
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 04:01:45
October 10 2014 04:00 GMT
#298
Go back to having inhibs not respawn at all.

Hahah they are adding Runes, gg we doto now
@miicah88
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 10 2014 04:03 GMT
#299
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2014 04:05 GMT
#300
I remember when someone said everyone should start at like level 3. Base stat at early levels sort of along those lines.

Ugh, the warmog changes killing me on the inside. One of my favorite defensive items ever since FoN was introduced, that 200 hp hit after all the nerfs it already got hit with really fucking dumb.
liftlift > tsm
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