EPT[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 14
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phathom321
United States1730 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 10 2014 08:24 Parnage wrote: Ah of course, the old pour money and resources to make a champion not good trick. Well, to be fair, Riot has said over and over that the point of a rework isn't to make a champion amazeballs but to change the playstyle to something they could balance correctly and then balance from there. They don't really have a target strength in mind other than "Oh dear lore we need to hotfix this." | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium5201 Posts
Malefic Visions is a single target damage over time ability that deals magic damage every 0.5 seconds. Applies spell effects as a damage over time ability. Hextech Revolver item.png Spell vamp is fully applied. Rylai's Crystal Scepter item.png Rylai's Crystal Scepter will apply a 15% slow. Magic damage will be mitigated by magic shields. Banshee's Veil item.png Spell shields will not block the ability. Either Rylai's or Hextech application seems to be wrong here, or can someone explain to me why it is like it is. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I not sold on him as a jungler, but we'll see what next season brings as far as jungle changes first. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 10 2014 09:26 Uldridge wrote: So after checking some champ's wiki's, I found this about Malzahar: Malefic Visions is a single target damage over time ability that deals magic damage every 0.5 seconds. Applies spell effects as a damage over time ability. Hextech Revolver item.png Spell vamp is fully applied. Rylai's Crystal Scepter item.png Rylai's Crystal Scepter will apply a 15% slow. Magic damage will be mitigated by magic shields. Banshee's Veil item.png Spell shields will not block the ability. Either Rylai's or Hextech application seems to be wrong here, or can someone explain to me why it is like it is. Spellvamp is 100% for single target DoTs. Rylai's is penalized for single target DoTs. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Except maybe even more of each. His new HP scaling is ridiculous. Not only does he only have to level 1 point to get full benefits from his HP stacking, but he gets more HP from kills than he used to and double dips in HP since you have to kill him twice every single time. And his infinite scaling stat is one that scales with building tanky items which is obviously what he wants. Thing is right now (and for the forseeable future), shitty early game awesome late game solo laners are no good. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:18 gtrsrs wrote: his passive is pretty awful imo, losing all of your skills means that they just kite you for 2 seconds while your health drops superfast. other than that i really like him Frozen Mallet and Sivir ult, "suicide the sion" tactic gogogo! | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:12 Ketara wrote: My first impression of Sion, after seeing him in a few games, is that he's similar to Nasus, real weak early and real strong late. Except maybe even more of each. Nasus is really not that weak in the early game, have you ever watched sirchez play him? | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
overall sion's kit is basically 100% reliant on your team landing hard cc or the opponent not paying attention. Q and R are both super telegraphed and easily dodged while teams can just pop your W before you get in range so that it does 0 damage. but since most people are terrible he will probably crush solo queue once people get better with him and stop trying to long distance ult and max channel his Q because he does seem to do a ton of damage if people get hit by your skillshots. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:05 miicah wrote: Nasus is really not that weak in the early game, have you ever watched sirchez play him? Nor is he that good lategame unless against very specific comps | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:05 miicah wrote: Nasus is really not that weak in the early game, have you ever watched sirchez play him? No. Who watches these people? Edit: Lol. I cant even read the PBE notes anymore. Just wait till S5 and see if Ori, Jax, and Kog are still playable I guess. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:15 Scip wrote: Nor is he that good lategame unless against very specific comps Who is a better late game (6 items) melee top than Nasus? Edit: And Poppy doesn't count. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:44 Ketara wrote: Who is a better late game (6 items) melee top than Nasus? Edit: And Poppy doesn't count. Kayle. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
THESE ARE THE RULES THAT I HAVE JUST MADE UP. Also these Quinn changes on reignofgaming. Rank 3 ult 1 second cooldown. That's not going to happen. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:50 Ketara wrote: Kayle isn't Melee. THESE ARE THE RULES THAT I HAVE JUST MADE UP. Also these Quinn changes on reignofgaming. Rank 3 ult 1 second cooldown. That's not going to happen. Kayle isn't melee? plz, tell me how she's not melee. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:51 wei2coolman wrote: Kayle isn't melee? plz, tell me how she's not melee. Because in at least 90% of fighting situations, and that's being generous to you, Hydra doesn't work on her. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:50 Ketara wrote: Kayle isn't Melee. THESE ARE THE RULES THAT I HAVE JUST MADE UP. Also these Quinn changes on reignofgaming. Rank 3 ult 1 second cooldown. That's not going to happen. also kayle would get raped lategame by 6item nasus i dont know what is this guy smoking, worst case scenario hes a huge tank with broken 5s slow which eliminates adc from the fight, aoe and retarded single target dmg | ||
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