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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
November 02 2014 11:03 GMT
#2821
Either way, they're missing something. Korea is basically flopping from OSL only to PL only. A league format just makes more sense for weaker teams/smaller sponsors.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 02 2014 11:52 GMT
#2822
On November 02 2014 16:52 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 16:30 TheYango wrote:
As I said a while ago, the LCS format wasn't even the most contentious part of the changes. As far as I'm aware, more people took issue with the abolition of OGN Winter, and the retention of the one-team-per-organization rule, which LCS/LPL don't even enforce anymore (LPL dropped it a long time ago, and LCS obviously isn't enforcing it if Curse Academy are allowed to participate in LCS expansion). A lot less people would be up in arms if this were a simple format change to OGN that didn't include those two things.

OGN isn't so much switching to the LCS format as much as they are switching to an outdated LCS format of a year ago (i.e. only 8 teams and one-team-per-organization).


A small correction here. Liquid already said they would be selling the Curse Academy team if they actually get into LCS exactly because of the rule enforced by Riot:

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/curse-owner-liquid112-discusses-possible-sale-of-c/1100-2162/

The rule applies for LCS teams only, and owners spending their money to grow the amateur scene/their brand isn't discouraged by Riot afaik

Actually in the latest update to Challenger Series rules, they explicitly addressed that owners can only have one team in LCS and one in CS (with exception that if someone already had two or more challenger teams, like Liquid, then they are allowed to keep both).
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
November 02 2014 11:55 GMT
#2823
On November 02 2014 20:52 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 16:52 ketchup wrote:
On November 02 2014 16:30 TheYango wrote:
As I said a while ago, the LCS format wasn't even the most contentious part of the changes. As far as I'm aware, more people took issue with the abolition of OGN Winter, and the retention of the one-team-per-organization rule, which LCS/LPL don't even enforce anymore (LPL dropped it a long time ago, and LCS obviously isn't enforcing it if Curse Academy are allowed to participate in LCS expansion). A lot less people would be up in arms if this were a simple format change to OGN that didn't include those two things.

OGN isn't so much switching to the LCS format as much as they are switching to an outdated LCS format of a year ago (i.e. only 8 teams and one-team-per-organization).


A small correction here. Liquid already said they would be selling the Curse Academy team if they actually get into LCS exactly because of the rule enforced by Riot:

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/curse-owner-liquid112-discusses-possible-sale-of-c/1100-2162/

The rule applies for LCS teams only, and owners spending their money to grow the amateur scene/their brand isn't discouraged by Riot afaik

Actually in the latest update to Challenger Series rules, they explicitly addressed that owners can only have one team in LCS and one in CS (with exception that if someone already had two or more challenger teams, like Liquid, then they are allowed to keep both).

That doesn't refute anything ketchup said though...
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 02 2014 12:06 GMT
#2824
I'm adding to the "Owners spending their money to grow amateur scene isn't discouraged by Riot" though. Ketchup post sounded like Riot doesn't have any rules concerning team ownership in CS so I thought I'd add that part.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 15:29:08
November 02 2014 15:02 GMT
#2825
On November 02 2014 16:30 TheYango wrote:
As I said a while ago, the LCS format wasn't even the most contentious part of the changes. As far as I'm aware, more people took issue with the abolition of OGN Winter, and the retention of the one-team-per-organization rule, which LCS/LPL don't even enforce anymore (LPL dropped it a long time ago, and LCS obviously isn't enforcing it if Curse Academy are allowed to participate in LCS expansion). A lot less people would be up in arms if this were a simple format change to OGN that didn't include those two things.

OGN isn't so much switching to the LCS format as much as they are switching to an outdated LCS format of a year ago (i.e. only 8 teams and one-team-per-organization).



curse acad will disband if they get in to lcs according to SV. which means they are all hoping to get picked up by lcs teams or will make their own team if they feel they are good enough together.

seems a bit dickish to me to play when you know you cant accept the prize but whatever.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
November 02 2014 15:06 GMT
#2826
On November 03 2014 00:02 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 16:30 TheYango wrote:
As I said a while ago, the LCS format wasn't even the most contentious part of the changes. As far as I'm aware, more people took issue with the abolition of OGN Winter, and the retention of the one-team-per-organization rule, which LCS/LPL don't even enforce anymore (LPL dropped it a long time ago, and LCS obviously isn't enforcing it if Curse Academy are allowed to participate in LCS expansion). A lot less people would be up in arms if this were a simple format change to OGN that didn't include those two things.

OGN isn't so much switching to the LCS format as much as they are switching to an outdated LCS format of a year ago (i.e. only 8 teams and one-team-per-organization).



curse acad will disband if they get in to lcs to SV. which means they are all hoping to get picked up by lcs teams or will make their own team if they feel they are good enough together.

seems a bit dickish to me to play when you know you cant accept the prize but whatever.

No, the team would just be sold.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
November 02 2014 17:34 GMT
#2827
Would make the most sense to sell it to Saint. I dont know how competitive the bidding would be for a low-tier LCS team, but it kinda sucks to find a market when people know you have to sell.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 02 2014 17:39 GMT
#2828
On November 02 2014 21:06 AlterKot wrote:
I'm adding to the "Owners spending their money to grow amateur scene isn't discouraged by Riot" though. Ketchup post sounded like Riot doesn't have any rules concerning team ownership in CS so I thought I'd add that part.

The problem is there's nothing that would encourage teams to grow the amateur scene.. The benefit is almost non-existent considering the investment required to make a decent amateur team.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 02 2014 18:46 GMT
#2829
http://www.twitch.tv/rapidcasting
Stream of the last second desperate ranked 5s scrambled before ladder is locked for NA expansion
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 02 2014 18:47 GMT
#2830
On November 03 2014 03:46 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/rapidcasting
Stream of the last second desperate ranked 5s scrambled before ladder is locked for NA expansion

Might as well watch some league since my client is lagging too much for me click accept when it finds a match.Good thing we moved the servers.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 02 2014 19:17 GMT
#2831
maknoob so bad
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 19:20:56
November 02 2014 19:18 GMT
#2832
These teams seem to love leaving things for the last minute.

edit: Is luffy nien?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 02 2014 19:21 GMT
#2833
Well most of these teams have qualified, but they probably want to avoid curse academy at all costs.
Glorious SEA doto
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 02 2014 19:32 GMT
#2834
LOL.

I love this Gnar top fling.

Lets me bring Pantheon back to the top lane where he belongs. <3
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 02 2014 19:38 GMT
#2835
On November 03 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 21:06 AlterKot wrote:
I'm adding to the "Owners spending their money to grow amateur scene isn't discouraged by Riot" though. Ketchup post sounded like Riot doesn't have any rules concerning team ownership in CS so I thought I'd add that part.

The problem is there's nothing that would encourage teams to grow the amateur scene.. The benefit is almost non-existent considering the investment required to make a decent amateur team.

the worst part is, the system is supposed to create an increase in the amount of sponsors and such for the league, but no one is going to want to pick up a brand new LCS team that was a B team of another LCS team. after all, if that B team was worth having as an investment, the first team would have used those players for the A team.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
November 02 2014 19:39 GMT
#2836
On November 03 2014 04:32 iCanada wrote:
LOL.

I love this Gnar top fling.

Lets me bring Pantheon back to the top lane where he belongs. <3


Oh my god i didn't even think of that. Base Gnar is made out of tissue paper. Point and click ranged bullying + allin potential ftw.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Marten
Profile Joined March 2014
Estonia13 Posts
November 02 2014 20:00 GMT
#2837
sino is my fave chmpaion i alwys havepl ayed him erve since i started on at 2010 in june when my frineead recomadned it. the old sion wil alwasy bei n my haearth but the new one is ok. i got to diamond ieuw with this ne wsion in jungle http://i.imgur.com/Nd4JX9z.jpg

all u do is charge into the enemy team with your shield actiavetad and you jusat then charge your Q while they are stunend and you will do tons of damage like kameha level and then u acautlay try to get usrelf killed so ur apssive twill be a nuisance for thea nemy team andhopefuöly you havew on the teamfiet.
"Thou shalt built Xin as both thee tanke and damage, as truu balance shall conquer the ladders of evil" - Teutonics, 374 B.C
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
November 02 2014 20:28 GMT
#2838
On November 03 2014 04:21 Fusilero wrote:
Well most of these teams have qualified, but they probably want to avoid curse academy at all costs.


If I were CA I'd be trolling ranked 5s right now to scout.
Freeeeeeedom
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 02 2014 20:36 GMT
#2839
in loading screen with a support kogmaw with exh heal. oh fuck.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 02 2014 20:36 GMT
#2840
On November 03 2014 04:39 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 04:32 iCanada wrote:
LOL.

I love this Gnar top fling.

Lets me bring Pantheon back to the top lane where he belongs. <3


Oh my god i didn't even think of that. Base Gnar is made out of tissue paper. Point and click ranged bullying + allin potential ftw.


Its pretty lulzy, reminds me of just shitting on kids in S1.

<3 <3 <3

OMG. My number one pet peeve in lol, that makes me rage harder than anything else is when idiots just dont play for the team. Like you ace their team, have 30 seconds to do whatever and they just like go do wraiths instead of helping you clear an objectives. UGH. I dont care if you hard feed, I dont care if you make stupid positioning mistakes, i dont care about any of that. Everyone has bad games, and thats fine its not a big deal.

But when you just refuse to take objectives when you can you lose games. You just straight up lose games.

They told me when I got good enough people stopped chasing sole survivor Nidalees down and took free inhibitors instead. They lied to me.

Dont be those people TL, dont be those people.
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