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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 24 2014 18:01 GMT
#1961
Nub Ketarah you are supposed to pretend to be me.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2014 18:02 GMT
#1962
What, am I supposed to say Fire Emblem is bad then?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 24 2014 18:11 GMT
#1963
You used the word "too".

But I guess I was being too picky. Sorry. Too much mafia for me these days.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 24 2014 19:37 GMT
#1964
I've always found Yango's point crisp and accurate. In instances where he's not, he is at least well argued. Yango just doesn't post a lot anymore in these threads because tbh, there's very little worth responding to anymore since Roffles isn't around to "keep it real". Everyone else (DURR, Milo, red_ etc) seems to have departed to DoTA or something.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 24 2014 19:58 GMT
#1965
red_ is still here, just talk about Hearthstone in the offtopic thread, works well usually.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:05:56
September 24 2014 20:03 GMT
#1966
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-update/viktor-machine-herald
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-update/soraka-starchild
Soraka and viktor updates are here
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-417-notes
Speaking of them, new patch notes
Glorious SEA doto
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:23:56
September 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#1967
I'm very interested in the Cass update actually. I was originally hoping that they'd hotfix her E and then see where she winds up but buffing Q and fixing E is interesting. I'd expect her to immediately pop up to the 45-47% WR region though, since they buffed the two problematic things about her (E time, mana) and improved on a third thing (Q damage)

Edit::

Thinking about it, the thing that I really really wish she had was a 3s cd on Q rather than 4s. I remember picking her up right after her rework and constantly E'ing unpoisoned targets because I would hit Q and nothing would cast. It makes it pretty damn important to reach 25%+ CDR ASAP in order to ensure that you have constant poison uptime. W is nice but it's much better as a zone control tool rather than direct damage in many cases.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 24 2014 20:25 GMT
#1968
they are gathering feedback for a poppy rework, RIP
Carrilord has arrived.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 24 2014 20:31 GMT
#1969
On September 25 2014 05:15 Lmui wrote:
I'm very interested in the Cass update actually. I was originally hoping that they'd hotfix her E and then see where she winds up but buffing Q and fixing E is interesting. I'd expect her to immediately pop up to the 45-47% WR region though, since they buffed the two problematic things about her (E time, mana) and improved on a third thing (Q damage)

Edit::

Thinking about it, the thing that I really really wish she had was a 3s cd on Q rather than 4s. I remember picking her up right after her rework and constantly E'ing unpoisoned targets because I would hit Q and nothing would cast. It makes it pretty damn important to reach 25%+ CDR ASAP in order to ensure that you have constant poison uptime. W is nice but it's much better as a zone control tool rather than direct damage in many cases.


Honestly don't think even the hotfix will make her good. They just butchered her early game too much to make up for any changes unless they overtune her by a lot. Her late game is worse than other late game mages and now her early game is worse too. No idea what they were thinking when they did these changes.

Actually as I say this I just saw a reddit thread with this link, http://lolbuilder.net/news/how-bad-is-the-new-cassiopeia. Don't know how good the analysis is.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 24 2014 20:33 GMT
#1970
On September 25 2014 05:03 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-update/viktor-machine-herald
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-update/soraka-starchild
Soraka and viktor updates are here
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-417-notes
Speaking of them, new patch notes

I just want that patch badly. I want my Soraka to be meta shit again <3
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 24 2014 20:36 GMT
#1971
On September 25 2014 05:25 Slusher wrote:
they are gathering feedback for a poppy rework, RIP

Go figure. If you nerf the early game of every other toplaner poppy becomes relevant.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
September 24 2014 20:38 GMT
#1972
On September 24 2014 23:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 22:53 Gahlo wrote:
They're going to need that staff anyway, regardless of server status. So what they get payed isn't even part of the equation. If, for example, that fixing server issues was part of that staffs job then you could say at least a portion of their pay is being misused. However, given who these people actually are they would probably make the server issues worse if they were pressed into service for it.

It's the stupidest fucking argument people use when they're upset with how Riot is doing something. Complaining that Player Behavior isn't working on Live Tech Support is as asinine and foolish as when people complain that the modelers, artists, and SFX creator work on relaunches instead of fixing balance issues for X champion that constantly wrecks them because they want to go full anime and attack the same problem the same damn way where they think they should win if they just try harder.

What the carpenter is doing when you bitch about shoddy masonry doesn't fucking matter.

would they need all of that staff if they weren't developing so many punishment systems? probably not. they still decided to focus on punishment rather than reward as i said. they made that decision. you don't get to pick one part of what i said to try to discredit all of it.

Good should be it's own reward. Hence it being "good." Doing the right thing and crying about no gain from it isn't actually doing good. It's greed.

On September 25 2014 00:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 00:37 Scip wrote:
Yango's posting history is somewhat overrated. He did (does) have common sense which, despite its name, isn't as common as one would hope, but it's nothing particularly spectacular either.


Scip going all tsundere on us. Think I've seen it all.

Are CDR blues worth it?

Yes, but you probably only want 6 of them for the ~5% CDR since they're largely taken to just round out the mastery points into a itemizable situation. You can go all out with 9 of them if you don't care about the 4 MR that would usually be in slots 7-9 and want to shift around the 2 astery points for the higher tier optimization.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:39:41
September 24 2014 20:38 GMT
#1973
On September 25 2014 05:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:25 Slusher wrote:
they are gathering feedback for a poppy rework, RIP

Go figure. If you nerf the early game of every other toplaner poppy becomes relevant.


Well they nerfed early game overall in S4 with the gold/ward changes. Wonder when they just going to say fuck it and remove early game completely. Go all CPL on us.

On September 25 2014 05:38 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 00:42 Numy wrote:
On September 25 2014 00:37 Scip wrote:
Yango's posting history is somewhat overrated. He did (does) have common sense which, despite its name, isn't as common as one would hope, but it's nothing particularly spectacular either.


Scip going all tsundere on us. Think I've seen it all.

Are CDR blues worth it?

Yes, but you probably only want 6 of them for the ~5% CDR since they're largely taken to just round out the mastery points into a itemizable situation. You can go all out with 9 of them if you don't care about the 4 MR that would usually be in slots 7-9 and want to shift around the 2 astery points for the higher tier optimization.


That makes sense thanks. I just recently started to fill out a second rune page for mages which I just took straight from U or someone's Ori page but I've seen CDR runes used before so wasn't sure how to fit them in.
Merlin the Tuna
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:56:31
September 24 2014 20:50 GMT
#1974
On September 25 2014 05:38 Numy wrote:
Well they nerfed early game overall in S4 with the gold/ward changes. Wonder when they just going to say fuck it and remove early game completely.
I would honestly be ok if one of the changes for next season would be to start the game at level 3 like they do in Dominion/ARAM. Especially in bottom lane, the mini-game of "Who can hit level 2 and all-in first?" is kind of annoying.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 24 2014 21:00 GMT
#1975
On September 25 2014 05:50 Merlin the Tuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:38 Numy wrote:
Well they nerfed early game overall in S4 with the gold/ward changes. Wonder when they just going to say fuck it and remove early game completely.
I would honestly be ok if one of the changes for next season would be to start the game at level 3 like they do in Dominion/ARAM. Especially in bottom lane, the mini-game of "Who can hit level 2 and all-in first?" is kind of annoying.


Imo that would be ridiculous.

I'd probably stop playing.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 24 2014 21:05 GMT
#1976
Might as well take out gold, levels, and towers at that point. And Dragon, Baron, and buff camps.

I'm tired of playing the LoL mini game before I get to kill the nexus.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 24 2014 21:05 GMT
#1977
Viktor and Soraka changes look neat, and I like the little Garen buff. May play more this patch.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 21:07:46
September 24 2014 21:07 GMT
#1978
I really dislike the move away from silence, this game needs more hard lockdown not less.

otherwise I do like the patch.
Carrilord has arrived.
MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
September 24 2014 21:07 GMT
#1979
Dade runs full CDR per level blues on a lot of his midlaners so that he hits 40% with masteries and an athenes
http://www.twitch.tv/magnuswolf sometimes I stream, sometimes I don't
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 24 2014 21:08 GMT
#1980
On September 25 2014 06:05 iCanada wrote:
Might as well take out gold, levels, and towers at that point. And Dragon, Baron, and buff camps.

I'm tired of playing the LoL mini game before I get to kill the nexus.

So Heroes of the Storm? lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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