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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 24 2014 15:41 GMT
#1941
On September 25 2014 00:37 Scip wrote:
Yango's posting history is somewhat overrated. He did (does) have common sense which, despite its name, isn't as common as one would hope, but it's nothing particularly spectacular either.

We're just still all on the high from Warmog's on AD Carries.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 24 2014 15:42 GMT
#1942
On September 25 2014 00:37 Scip wrote:
Yango's posting history is somewhat overrated. He did (does) have common sense which, despite its name, isn't as common as one would hope, but it's nothing particularly spectacular either.


Scip going all tsundere on us. Think I've seen it all.

Are CDR blues worth it?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 24 2014 15:42 GMT
#1943
On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote:
We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance.

Ketara, your posting history isn't much better.

Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore.

Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey.

Or was that Sufficiency?
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 24 2014 15:43 GMT
#1944
On September 25 2014 00:11 RouaF wrote:
Mods patting themselves on the back :-/.



RISE AGAINST THE BOURGEOISIE COUNTRYMAN
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
September 24 2014 15:48 GMT
#1945
On September 24 2014 17:03 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 16:33 .AK wrote:
On September 24 2014 16:19 Xayoz wrote:
On September 24 2014 16:13 .AK wrote:
My support immediately says "welp this game is over, ff at 20".
I tell him to "shut the fuck up and play".
He says "whatever dude, I don't give a shit about this game".
I tell him "if you don't care about winning then why the fuck are you playing ranked".
"Whatever dude reported, verbal harassment".

I'd report you. How about you say nothing in this situation instead? Or do you honestly believe, that saying "shut the fuck up and play", will actually motivate someone, instead of pissing them off even more?

Maybe not but this is pretty much exactly how I would react in real life. If you are not there to win then sit on the bench. I stand by what I say 100% and absolutely would not say nothing. What recourse do I have besides talking to him? Reporting isn't going to fix that situation.


The fact that you seem to think your only options are to tell him to "shut the fuck up" and not talk to him at all speaks volumes about your mindset and toxicity. How about talking to him like a human fucking being instead of being an asshole. Just like he's using a report to excuse his own bad mentality, you are using his bad mindset to excuse your being a dick.


To be fair I have said pretty much the exact same thing (shut the fuck up and play) to my best friend when we played high school soccer together. I have had a white water rafting guide tell my group we were a bunch of pussies (he didn't use that exact phrase but something to that effect) when we were not paddling hard enough. Using harsh language to snap people into action/out of their defeatist attitude is a real way a reasonable human being will talk to another human being they respects.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2014 15:51 GMT
#1946
On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote:
We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance.

Ketara, your posting history isn't much better.

Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore.

Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey.

Or was that Sufficiency?


I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22103 Posts
September 24 2014 15:51 GMT
#1947
On September 25 2014 00:48 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 17:03 Mikau wrote:
On September 24 2014 16:33 .AK wrote:
On September 24 2014 16:19 Xayoz wrote:
On September 24 2014 16:13 .AK wrote:
My support immediately says "welp this game is over, ff at 20".
I tell him to "shut the fuck up and play".
He says "whatever dude, I don't give a shit about this game".
I tell him "if you don't care about winning then why the fuck are you playing ranked".
"Whatever dude reported, verbal harassment".

I'd report you. How about you say nothing in this situation instead? Or do you honestly believe, that saying "shut the fuck up and play", will actually motivate someone, instead of pissing them off even more?

Maybe not but this is pretty much exactly how I would react in real life. If you are not there to win then sit on the bench. I stand by what I say 100% and absolutely would not say nothing. What recourse do I have besides talking to him? Reporting isn't going to fix that situation.


The fact that you seem to think your only options are to tell him to "shut the fuck up" and not talk to him at all speaks volumes about your mindset and toxicity. How about talking to him like a human fucking being instead of being an asshole. Just like he's using a report to excuse his own bad mentality, you are using his bad mindset to excuse your being a dick.


To be fair I have said pretty much the exact same thing (shut the fuck up and play) to my best friend when we played high school soccer together. I have had a white water rafting guide tell my group we were a bunch of pussies (he didn't use that exact phrase but something to that effect) when we were not paddling hard enough. Using harsh language to snap people into action/out of their defeatist attitude is a real way a reasonable human being will talk to another human being they respects.

A friend or colleague talking like that gets people moving.
A random kid on the internet talking like that makes me want to punch him in the face.

Context and environment is everything.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 24 2014 16:20 GMT
#1948
On September 25 2014 00:43 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 00:11 RouaF wrote:
Mods patting themselves on the back :-/.



RISE AGAINST THE BOURGEOISIE COUNTRYMAN

Time for a posting revolution comrades
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 24 2014 16:21 GMT
#1949
its perfect cuz hes from france too
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 24 2014 16:57 GMT
#1950
I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.

However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.

Which is why I don't like to feed them.
Freeeeeeedom
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 24 2014 16:59 GMT
#1951
Sufficiency actually manages to address the opposing argument when he disagrees with someone.
Carrilord has arrived.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 24 2014 17:08 GMT
#1952
On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote:
I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.

However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.

Which is why I don't like to feed them.

Who says no one has chat restrictions? I thought we were just commenting on how the new punishment system is bad for normals players.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 24 2014 17:09 GMT
#1953
are people going to even get a warning if they are deemed too toxic for the end of season reward or notification of some sort that they are treading the line
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 24 2014 17:13 GMT
#1954
On September 25 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote:
We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance.

Ketara, your posting history isn't much better.

Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore.

Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey.

Or was that Sufficiency?


I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person.

Sufficiency is the guy who posts about being bad at Fire Emblem in the Off-Topic thread.

You're the guy who posts about Kill la Kill in the Off-Topic thread.
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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
September 24 2014 17:21 GMT
#1955
On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote:
I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.

However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.

Which is why I don't like to feed them.

The tinfoil hat is strong with this one.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 24 2014 17:43 GMT
#1956
On September 25 2014 02:21 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote:
I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.

However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.

Which is why I don't like to feed them.

The tinfoil hat is strong with this one.

i mean it is kinda what has happened yeah? used to only get manually banned, then tribunal, then automated chat restrictions, now chat restrictions have ranked bans attached and reward removal.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2014 17:44 GMT
#1957
Indeed. The system has significantly improved, let's hope it keeps improving.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 24 2014 17:44 GMT
#1958
On September 25 2014 02:08 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote:
I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.

However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.

Which is why I don't like to feed them.

Who says no one has chat restrictions? I thought we were just commenting on how the new punishment system is bad for normals players.


Mildly. The people who like this system are saying 2 things that are basically irreconcilable:

1. Look, only super toxic people are getting bans anyways, so reasonable people shouldn't worry about the system.
2. There are too many toxic players in my games (thus implicitly saying the bar should be lowered to sweep up more people, possibly reasonable, into the system).

On September 25 2014 02:21 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote:
I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.

However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.

Which is why I don't like to feed them.

The tinfoil hat is strong with this one.


There is no conspiracy. There are just immature people with inflated egos and soft rear ends that like to agitate and be outraged. Have you heard of trigger warnings?
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 17:57:24
September 24 2014 17:55 GMT
#1959
On September 25 2014 02:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:
On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote:
We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance.

Ketara, your posting history isn't much better.

Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore.

Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey.

Or was that Sufficiency?


I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person.

Sufficiency is the guy who posts about being bad at Fire Emblem in the Off-Topic thread.

You're the guy who posts about Kill la Kill in the Off-Topic thread.


I haven't seen sufficiency talking about Fire Emblem in a while now though.

Also Kill la Kill is a great show.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2014 17:59 GMT
#1960
On September 25 2014 02:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 02:13 TheYango wrote:
On September 25 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:
On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:
On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote:
We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance.

Ketara, your posting history isn't much better.

Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore.

Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey.

Or was that Sufficiency?


I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person.

Sufficiency is the guy who posts about being bad at Fire Emblem in the Off-Topic thread.

You're the guy who posts about Kill la Kill in the Off-Topic thread.


I haven't seen sufficiency talking about Fire Emblem in a while now though.

Also Kill la Kill is a great show.


Fire Emblem is also awesome.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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