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On September 25 2014 00:37 Scip wrote: Yango's posting history is somewhat overrated. He did (does) have common sense which, despite its name, isn't as common as one would hope, but it's nothing particularly spectacular either. We're just still all on the high from Warmog's on AD Carries.
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On September 25 2014 00:37 Scip wrote: Yango's posting history is somewhat overrated. He did (does) have common sense which, despite its name, isn't as common as one would hope, but it's nothing particularly spectacular either.
Scip going all tsundere on us. Think I've seen it all.
Are CDR blues worth it?
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On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote: We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance. Ketara, your posting history isn't much better. Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore. Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey.
Or was that Sufficiency?
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On September 25 2014 00:11 RouaF wrote: Mods patting themselves on the back :-/.
RISE AGAINST THE BOURGEOISIE COUNTRYMAN
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On September 24 2014 17:03 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 16:33 .AK wrote:On September 24 2014 16:19 Xayoz wrote:On September 24 2014 16:13 .AK wrote: My support immediately says "welp this game is over, ff at 20". I tell him to "shut the fuck up and play". He says "whatever dude, I don't give a shit about this game". I tell him "if you don't care about winning then why the fuck are you playing ranked". "Whatever dude reported, verbal harassment".
I'd report you. How about you say nothing in this situation instead? Or do you honestly believe, that saying "shut the fuck up and play", will actually motivate someone, instead of pissing them off even more? Maybe not but this is pretty much exactly how I would react in real life. If you are not there to win then sit on the bench. I stand by what I say 100% and absolutely would not say nothing. What recourse do I have besides talking to him? Reporting isn't going to fix that situation. The fact that you seem to think your only options are to tell him to "shut the fuck up" and not talk to him at all speaks volumes about your mindset and toxicity. How about talking to him like a human fucking being instead of being an asshole. Just like he's using a report to excuse his own bad mentality, you are using his bad mindset to excuse your being a dick.
To be fair I have said pretty much the exact same thing (shut the fuck up and play) to my best friend when we played high school soccer together. I have had a white water rafting guide tell my group we were a bunch of pussies (he didn't use that exact phrase but something to that effect) when we were not paddling hard enough. Using harsh language to snap people into action/out of their defeatist attitude is a real way a reasonable human being will talk to another human being they respects.
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On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote: We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance. Ketara, your posting history isn't much better. Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore. Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey. Or was that Sufficiency?
I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person.
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On September 25 2014 00:48 jadoth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 17:03 Mikau wrote:On September 24 2014 16:33 .AK wrote:On September 24 2014 16:19 Xayoz wrote:On September 24 2014 16:13 .AK wrote: My support immediately says "welp this game is over, ff at 20". I tell him to "shut the fuck up and play". He says "whatever dude, I don't give a shit about this game". I tell him "if you don't care about winning then why the fuck are you playing ranked". "Whatever dude reported, verbal harassment".
I'd report you. How about you say nothing in this situation instead? Or do you honestly believe, that saying "shut the fuck up and play", will actually motivate someone, instead of pissing them off even more? Maybe not but this is pretty much exactly how I would react in real life. If you are not there to win then sit on the bench. I stand by what I say 100% and absolutely would not say nothing. What recourse do I have besides talking to him? Reporting isn't going to fix that situation. The fact that you seem to think your only options are to tell him to "shut the fuck up" and not talk to him at all speaks volumes about your mindset and toxicity. How about talking to him like a human fucking being instead of being an asshole. Just like he's using a report to excuse his own bad mentality, you are using his bad mindset to excuse your being a dick. To be fair I have said pretty much the exact same thing (shut the fuck up and play) to my best friend when we played high school soccer together. I have had a white water rafting guide tell my group we were a bunch of pussies (he didn't use that exact phrase but something to that effect) when we were not paddling hard enough. Using harsh language to snap people into action/out of their defeatist attitude is a real way a reasonable human being will talk to another human being they respects. A friend or colleague talking like that gets people moving. A random kid on the internet talking like that makes me want to punch him in the face.
Context and environment is everything.
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On September 25 2014 00:43 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 00:11 RouaF wrote: Mods patting themselves on the back :-/. RISE AGAINST THE BOURGEOISIE COUNTRYMAN Time for a posting revolution comrades
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its perfect cuz hes from france too
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I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.
However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.
Which is why I don't like to feed them.
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Sufficiency actually manages to address the opposing argument when he disagrees with someone.
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On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote: I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.
However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.
Which is why I don't like to feed them. Who says no one has chat restrictions? I thought we were just commenting on how the new punishment system is bad for normals players.
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are people going to even get a warning if they are deemed too toxic for the end of season reward or notification of some sort that they are treading the line
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On September 25 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote: We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance. Ketara, your posting history isn't much better. Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore. Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey. Or was that Sufficiency? I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person. Sufficiency is the guy who posts about being bad at Fire Emblem in the Off-Topic thread.
You're the guy who posts about Kill la Kill in the Off-Topic thread.
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On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote: I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.
However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.
Which is why I don't like to feed them. The tinfoil hat is strong with this one.
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On September 25 2014 02:21 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote: I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.
However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.
Which is why I don't like to feed them. The tinfoil hat is strong with this one. i mean it is kinda what has happened yeah? used to only get manually banned, then tribunal, then automated chat restrictions, now chat restrictions have ranked bans attached and reward removal.
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Indeed. The system has significantly improved, let's hope it keeps improving.
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On September 25 2014 02:08 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote: I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.
However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.
Which is why I don't like to feed them. Who says no one has chat restrictions? I thought we were just commenting on how the new punishment system is bad for normals players.
Mildly. The people who like this system are saying 2 things that are basically irreconcilable:
1. Look, only super toxic people are getting bans anyways, so reasonable people shouldn't worry about the system. 2. There are too many toxic players in my games (thus implicitly saying the bar should be lowered to sweep up more people, possibly reasonable, into the system).
On September 25 2014 02:21 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 01:57 cLutZ wrote: I'd like to point out that the reason that almost no one (not even toxic/roleplaying in chat me) has chat restrictions and account suspensions is because the people who advocate for those things have yet to win. The current Prisoner's Island system is not going to change that much.
However, once that goes into effect the Reddit Army will demand something else that will sweep up more people (duo queue maybe), maybe they will advocate for a language filter + autoban (something the new UI will probably be advanced enough to support). When you say "its really hard to get chat restricted" you are tacitly admitting that lowering the bar is either your goal, or will be someone else's goal in the foreseeable future. And no, its not a slippery-slope argument, its more akin to an ad-hominem attack, because I am making these statements based on past outrage cycles on Reddit, Facebook, etc. Its usually the same core group of people, and they will constantly move the goalposts back.
Which is why I don't like to feed them. The tinfoil hat is strong with this one.
There is no conspiracy. There are just immature people with inflated egos and soft rear ends that like to agitate and be outraged. Have you heard of trigger warnings?
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On September 25 2014 02:13 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote: We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance. Ketara, your posting history isn't much better. Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore. Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey. Or was that Sufficiency? I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person. Sufficiency is the guy who posts about being bad at Fire Emblem in the Off-Topic thread. You're the guy who posts about Kill la Kill in the Off-Topic thread.
I haven't seen sufficiency talking about Fire Emblem in a while now though.
Also Kill la Kill is a great show.
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On September 25 2014 02:55 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 02:13 TheYango wrote:On September 25 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:On September 25 2014 00:42 xes wrote:On September 24 2014 23:46 TheYango wrote:On September 24 2014 23:11 Ketara wrote: We are all waiting for the day where PX posts something of actual substance. Ketara, your posting history isn't much better. Roffles just isn't here to tell you off anymore. Don't you remember, Ketara has lost all respect for your Grand Wizard Yango The Magistre Grey. Or was that Sufficiency? I thought Sufficiency and I were the same person. Sufficiency is the guy who posts about being bad at Fire Emblem in the Off-Topic thread. You're the guy who posts about Kill la Kill in the Off-Topic thread. I haven't seen sufficiency talking about Fire Emblem in a while now though. Also Kill la Kill is a great show.
Fire Emblem is also awesome.
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