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[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 73

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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 19 2014 04:36 GMT
#1441
On September 19 2014 13:32 miicah wrote:
Can someone explain why pro supports go ignite even when the enemy team has a huge damage adc? Like FZZF went ignite on thresh vs a trist. Is it just because he assumes he will never get the opportunity to exhaust trist in a teamfight and that ignite is stronger in lane?

Should I only be grabbing exhaust if they have an actual assassin?

I could certainly imagine struggling to actually resolve exhaust on Trist at a time that it's especially effective, and maybe crushing trist in lane is what they feel is their best out?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 19 2014 04:37 GMT
#1442
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 19 2014 04:51 GMT
#1443
Just lost an ascension match by 1 pt. Ascended yi is silly.
liftlift > tsm
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 19 2014 05:45 GMT
#1444
On September 19 2014 13:37 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 08:29 sung_moon wrote:
Why do people max E on Irelia now? People suggested that to me when I play, and I watched a vod of Royal Club vs. TSM, where Cola looked to be maxing E first too.

Is max W not a thing anymore?


E max is better if you're going to rely on your jungler to do anything and will not be attempting to duel for a while. the longer stun helps more in ganks and its easy disengage/trade if they try to duel you.

otherwise W max is better


you're on the right track, E max is better when extended trades aren't favorable for you, say against something like Ryze. With phage/sheen and maxed E if you get a stun on a Ryze you will kill him or force flash/ult. The trading potential is higher than with W due to being unable to retaliate. The gank assistance is a nice bonus though
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 19 2014 05:56 GMT
#1445
On September 19 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Just lost an ascension match by 1 pt. Ascended yi is silly.

Play shaco, take MS runes and MS masteries start mobo+alacrity. Never die and get the enemy team to ragequit the game.

ez
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
September 19 2014 06:13 GMT
#1446
I finally got the fucking icon in ascension. 40% CDR teemo with dcap equivalent + liandries + void wrecks squishy split teams.

Won 9/9 of my teemo games I think, ~25-30 total games on ascension. All glory to Satan.

I can't lane for shit any more though =(, played way too many ascension in a row now.

On the topic of ignite/exh bot lane, exh isn't too useful against ADs like kogmaw, trist, caitlyn etc in mid-late game which can auto from outside the range of exhaust. The only time you'll get close enough to them to use it is if they screw up or you're already losing the fight and they're diving in.

It's used far more on shorter range assassins like zed, yasuo, khazix etc rather than on an AD carry.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
September 19 2014 06:36 GMT
#1447
On September 19 2014 15:13 Lmui wrote:
I finally got the fucking icon in ascension. 40% CDR teemo with dcap equivalent + liandries + void wrecks squishy split teams.

Won 9/9 of my teemo games I think, ~25-30 total games on ascension. All glory to Satan.

I can't lane for shit any more though =(, played way too many ascension in a row now.

On the topic of ignite/exh bot lane, exh isn't too useful against ADs like kogmaw, trist, caitlyn etc in mid-late game which can auto from outside the range of exhaust. The only time you'll get close enough to them to use it is if they screw up or you're already losing the fight and they're diving in.

It's used far more on shorter range assassins like zed, yasuo, khazix etc rather than on an AD carry.


I got the icon in my second game by accident :3
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 19 2014 07:01 GMT
#1448
I think I got mine in either my second first game...?
Maybe it was second. Idk, I had no idea even how to play ascension and syl never told me they actually had full vision of me. I was playing wukong so a bitttt awkward lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 19 2014 07:21 GMT
#1449
On September 19 2014 14:56 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Just lost an ascension match by 1 pt. Ascended yi is silly.

Play shaco, take MS runes and MS masteries start mobo+alacrity. Never die and get the enemy team to ragequit the game.

ez

Been playing AP corki on it. POKE POKE POKE POKE POKE.
liftlift > tsm
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 19 2014 07:38 GMT
#1450
On September 19 2014 16:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 14:56 xes wrote:
On September 19 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Just lost an ascension match by 1 pt. Ascended yi is silly.

Play shaco, take MS runes and MS masteries start mobo+alacrity. Never die and get the enemy team to ragequit the game.

ez

Been playing AP corki on it. POKE POKE POKE POKE POKE.

Cdr Ashe is fun too.

5% from masteries: start brut -> cdr boots-> finish ghostblade -> second brut -> standard adc items. You've got a 2.4 second volley for interrupting all the caps, vision, armor pen out the wazoo, and no creeps to blow your passive on. Just stand behind someone who is tanky and e all the bushes (and take CV too for total vision dickery)
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
September 19 2014 08:43 GMT
#1451
does Azir's tower gives global gold? if yes how much?
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
September 19 2014 08:59 GMT
#1452
On September 19 2014 17:43 justiceknight wrote:
does Azir's tower gives global gold? if yes how much?

For what I undestood, it fully replicates the regular turrets, so perhaps this is the same as well
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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 19 2014 09:01 GMT
#1453
On September 19 2014 17:43 justiceknight wrote:
does Azir's tower gives global gold? if yes how much?

on a related topic, TIL Azir can raise a turret in Ascension after the Xerath is killed.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
September 19 2014 09:04 GMT
#1454
On September 19 2014 13:20 iCanada wrote:
Holyfuck.

6 item Cassiopiea rightr now is ridiculous. Like 700 AP + 40 CDR + Zhonyas + Rylais Slow + Seraphs + 3.5K HP + 150 MR / Armor.

Just silly. SO much deeps.

And that's with bugs that lower her damage.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 19 2014 09:16 GMT
#1455
she also got buffed on pbe lol
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 10:10:10
September 19 2014 10:09 GMT
#1456
I played her a bit on live and wasn't that impressed. Feel they really shat all over her early game and the trade off of a better late game is rather meaningless. Hopefully my impression was wrong.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 19 2014 11:29 GMT
#1457
On September 19 2014 17:43 justiceknight wrote:
does Azir's tower gives global gold? if yes how much?


I was watching tricks stream today and a Cait killed an Azir tower and the 100g+ popped up. So I don't know if it's global but at least the person getting the killing blow gets 100g.
@miicah88
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
September 19 2014 11:59 GMT
#1458
Just going to leave this here...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/444643-patch-43-velkoz-general-discussion?page=119#2380
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
September 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#1459
On September 19 2014 20:29 miicah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 17:43 justiceknight wrote:
does Azir's tower gives global gold? if yes how much?


I was watching tricks stream today and a Cait killed an Azir tower and the 100g+ popped up. So I don't know if it's global but at least the person getting the killing blow gets 100g.


Yeah, I was watching one of wingsofdeath's azir vods and I think it's just the one person that gets 100g, there was one point where the enemy azir's turret got killed and I don't think he got anything for it even though he was in the area.

Still, it makes you think twice about turret placement since you don't want to hand your opponents 100g for free.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 14:20:03
September 19 2014 14:16 GMT
#1460
Okay, so Cassiopeia changes seem so weird. Her poisons are much weaker and her E deals the majority of her damage - I understand that. But I just don't understand her passive. All her AP ratios already got nerfed so hard that it really isn't even a benefit. the CDR is wonderful, yes, but it truly feels like you are at a handicap until you actually get up to 400 stacks. The E heal is very nice, however.

Only played one game, of course. Her laning feels reminiscent of Nasus's in that you're just trying to get stacks, although a decent way to do so is via harrassing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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