EPT[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 72
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kongoline
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Many thanks for you valuable input. Reading comprehension is hard. On September 19 2014 04:23 kongoline wrote: she doesnt really beat him that much without jungler ryze can tie the lane and he is stronger late game Well that's the thing: since he can zone you from exp from level 1 if he wants too, Ryze doesn't "tie" the lane, it's Irelia job to reach level 5-6 at the same time as him and with enough farm to be able to threaten him. It's not like he "needs to survive the lane". | ||
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Simberto
Germany11712 Posts
On September 19 2014 04:37 Alaric wrote: "How to lane Nasus vs Teemo? - Just Q minions, LOL" Many thanks for you valuable input. I think his point was that maybe the thing that killed you wasn't vlads Q, but his auto, which are not instant? So his q nearly killed you, you flashed, his auto chases you down and kills you. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On arrival I was already in the death animation, but since Flash is so fast I don't know if it cast after I died, or if the animation just started immediatly after. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On September 19 2014 00:16 Sufficiency wrote: I think PX wants two CDR items for maximized CDR. Ketara wants to run scaling CDR blues (15% at level 18). So Ketara only needs one 20% CDR item. I think scaling CDR blues are really strong right now btw, everyone should try them (maybe except Karthus/Cass) I'm on the CDR wagon. Unless you're facing like two big AP threats and really need MR, CDR feels really good. It means with Grail I perfectly hit CDR cap at 18. I'm taking them every match on mid Vel'Koz regardless of enemy team, and selectively on Brand and Liss. They feel way better than scaling AP because the champs I'm playing ATM do more with more CDR than raw AP. | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
as for azir... man. usually, it only takes a few games for me to pick up a new champion and at the very least be able to hold my own. I've played azir about 10 games, and I still suck with him. i find it really difficult to manage his skills/cd's. I think I need to start only putting one soldier into any kind of fight or skirmish, so that I always have another one to allow me to reposition with e. I'm really getting tired of joining a skirmish, and using my combo, and then not having anything up to defend myself when the enemy team inevitably jumps straight for me. i suspect that is why he is able to have 2 soldiers stored. one to attack, one to reposition. few other notes: w-q a soldier further away, and then e to it. i think this simple combo is why riot made the w cast on the edge of your range, instead of moving azir forward. he is so squishy, and his range is so short. frustrating combination. It doesnt make much sense to give a champ skills like e and r and have his stats be so middling. not to mention his last hitting is AWFUL. if the soldiers were more dependable to farm with this wouldn't be an issue, but using azir's basic attack to last hit is so bad. ive started rushing roa. i think nashor is good on him, but not as a first item. roa solves (most) of his mana issues, and helps with his pitiful stats. i think the next build i'm going to try is roa, zerker boots, nashor. all this negativity aside, i think azir is a cool champ, and I won't stop playing him. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On September 19 2014 06:00 Vaporized wrote: max cdr velkoz is so much fun. as for azir... man. usually, it only takes a few games for me to pick up a new champion and at the very least be able to hold my own. I've played azir about 10 games, and I still suck with him. i find it really difficult to manage his skills/cd's. I think I need to start only putting one soldier into any kind of fight or skirmish, so that I always have another one to allow me to reposition with e. I'm really getting tired of joining a skirmish, and using my combo, and then not having anything up to defend myself when the enemy team inevitably jumps straight for me. i suspect that is why he is able to have 2 soldiers stored. one to attack, one to reposition. From what I saw when Wings played him, it is usually good to only be using one soldier at a time unless your going for a calculated all in. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Is max W not a thing anymore? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
W first is a no-brainer because all of her damage comes from there. Might as well play AD Annie otherwise. People spamming "dive" when we have Nidalee/Katarina/Blitz and they have Lee, Pantheon, Ryze, Morgana and their Corki is fed. And complaining about vision when they don't buy wards, and who dive 3v4 when we force a pick on the 5th who's out of position to allow us to take that tower. Urgh. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On September 19 2014 09:03 Alaric wrote: People spamming "dive" when we have Nidalee/Katarina/Blitz and they have Lee, Pantheon, Ryze, Morgana and their Corki is fed. And complaining about vision when they don't buy wards, and who dive 3v4 when we force a pick on the 5th who's out of position to allow us to take that tower. Urgh. You were doing fine why did you have to fall off the wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/220361-the-shikyo-memorial-for-qq-therapy | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 19 2014 08:29 sung_moon wrote: Why do people max E on Irelia now? People suggested that to me when I play, and I watched a vod of Royal Club vs. TSM, where Cola looked to be maxing E first too. Is max W not a thing anymore? Only thing I can think of is they're using Irelia as a lockdown and are priporitizing the longer stun duration. Given the matchup, Irelia is pretty screwed without jungle support. With reasonable MR(base + /level + glyphs) against Irelia, lvl5 W + lvl2 E needs to hit 3 times to outdamage lvl5 E and level 2 W. Given she most likely won't be fighting alone, it isn't an awful idea in organized play. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On September 18 2014 22:29 Alaric wrote: Uh can't you just hide behind minions and laugh at Brand when he can't match your waveclear ever (nor your mana sustain early on)? takes about three levels in Malefic Visions before it's reliable at waveclearing, before then you have to guide it a bit to make sure you get the lasthits with autos and manipulating wave hp, which can get dangerous | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
...37 of those reference Shurima. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 19 2014 11:19 phyvo wrote: So Azir has 136 unique lines of dialogue. WOW. ...37 of those reference Shurima. I could have sword reddit said 53. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
It was hilarious for the first 5 minutes, and then i wanted to pull my hair out. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
6 item Cassiopiea rightr now is ridiculous. Like 700 AP + 40 CDR + Zhonyas + Rylais Slow + Seraphs + 3.5K HP + 150 MR / Armor. Just silly. SO much deeps. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
Should I only be grabbing exhaust if they have an actual assassin? | ||
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